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SorrowShine
Profile Joined October 2011
698 Posts
June 03 2012 10:41 GMT
#21
Hi all.
Question is about Gamereplays.org ratings.

When the replay is uploaded to gamereplays.org next to replay there is always rating of the player. How is it calculated?

Here is for example my replay:
http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=details&id=264343
Next to my name is rating of 402 and my opponenets 604.
Could not find any explantions for those numbers yet.

Thanks
HeliBadger
Profile Joined September 2011
538 Posts
June 03 2012 11:04 GMT
#22
Do warping-in units take extra damage until they're fully warped? If so, how much extra?
Deyster
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Jordan579 Posts
June 03 2012 11:05 GMT
#23
On June 03 2012 16:56 Pri1230 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2012 16:45 Deyster wrote:
Just a simple technical question:

I have not installed SC2 properly, but rather copied the game folder from my other machine and it works perfectly, but the replay files (when viewed in windows files browser) are not associated with anything. I tried associating them with Starcraft.exe, but all it does is start SC2 and not play the replay, so anyone has any idea to which file I should associate SC2Replay files to?


Hey what i did was open with sc2switcher which can be found in the support folder in your starcraft II directory see if that works.

That worked perfectly, thanks!
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Tibbroar
Profile Joined June 2011
United States161 Posts
June 03 2012 11:38 GMT
#24
On June 03 2012 17:50 lavit2099 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2012 17:34 Nokshalees wrote:
Why does blizzard hate terran so much.

Even with an interface patch. Terran somehow got a nerf lol. (patch for the bunker lol)


Well that didn't take long before someone started to whine about balance -_-


To be fair, Jinro got awfully close when describing toss.
I will always believe in the fallen king.
BoxingKangaroo
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Japan955 Posts
June 03 2012 13:00 GMT
#25
On June 03 2012 20:04 superLanboy wrote:
Do warping-in units take extra damage until they're fully warped? If so, how much extra?


No they don't.

It is useful to note that during the warp-in process, the unit warping in is vulnerable in two ways. First, enemy forces can directly attack the warping-in unit, suffering normal damage.
Eraserhead
Profile Joined October 2011
159 Posts
June 03 2012 14:27 GMT
#26
Where can I report maphackers or show the replay on this site?
HeroMystic
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1217 Posts
June 03 2012 14:30 GMT
#27
On June 03 2012 20:38 Tibbroar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2012 17:50 lavit2099 wrote:
On June 03 2012 17:34 Nokshalees wrote:
Why does blizzard hate terran so much.

Even with an interface patch. Terran somehow got a nerf lol. (patch for the bunker lol)


Well that didn't take long before someone started to whine about balance -_-


To be fair, Jinro got awfully close when describing toss.


The warp-in mechanic makes Protoss pretty hard to analyze as an aggressive or defensive race, because Warp Gate really allows them to do anything on the fly due to the near-instant reinforcement and how pooling up money is actually beneficial to the race. So Jinro isn't really far off when they said they can "pull off a lot of bullshit". While their unit compositions are overall linear, there's a lot of tricks Protoss can do that ultimately makes them the mindgaming race.

Though to be fair, Protoss has some rather extreme weaknesses. They have to rely on the sentry to survive the early game, and then they have to rely on some form of higher tech (Colossus or High Templar) to pull them through the midgame. Of course I'm talking about TvP, but ZvP is a pretty big mess as well. They can handle high burst damage (which is why Mech is extremely difficult to play in TvP), but they can't handle high DPS (which is why MMM is so dominant in this match-up). Zerg basically just streams in an extreme amount of Roaches to overwhelm Protoss while they can't have Colossus.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
June 03 2012 16:50 GMT
#28
On June 03 2012 23:27 Eraserhead wrote:
Where can I report maphackers or show the replay on this site?

It's mostly being posted in this thread. At this time there is not a dedicated thread, although that may change in the coming weeks.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
KillingVector
Profile Joined June 2012
United States96 Posts
June 03 2012 19:50 GMT
#29
Hi, I'm new to posting on TL. I usually just read and so never made an account before. I just made this account and so I can't create a new thread. I wanted to make a thread about contacting media angencies to raise awareness of MLG Anaheim. Timing is very crucial So I can't wait 3 days. Could someone create a thread for me and just copy the following into it?

+ Show Spoiler +
I am hoping that the community can pull together to create some attention for the upcoming MLG in Anaheim. I
know, this is a very last minute effort, but I think it is worth trying. We should contact various media
angencies to get their attention of this event. We could do it via email, facebook, twitter, or whatever.

First, here are some actual media releases that I did find related to MLG.

A Press Release of MLG on MSNBC
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/47629944#.T8us8MWp2So

A Today Show Article Describing CBS Interactive buying up the advertising rights to MLG and other pro gaming
organizations.
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/47636148#.T8us9sWp2So

A CNBC article that is exactly the same as the Today Show Article
http://www.cnbc.com/id/47633993

So, a comment on the press release. We would like an actual story and airtime on TV for MLG. So I think this
is worth doing even though there is a press release.

Next, I'll list some things that are worth mentioning. Details about MLG I'm getting from the press release.

+ Show Spoiler +
- Money Talks. Starcraft 2 Prize pool is worth 76K with 25K for first place.
- Prove it is professional. Mention CBS Interactive acquiring advertising rights. Mention that players are
on professional teams, salaried, and have big sponsors. Mention the press release.
- Stress that it is international. There are players competing from different continents.
- Mention the fact that it is something mainly distributed online. Media loves stories about the internet
and a changing society.
- Mention any top players that are really young (like Leenock/Maru) and will be playing at MLG. Media loves
this kind of stuff. For example, the story of the 6 year old at a spelling bee.
- Mention date and location. Other than the national news giants, the others I have selected because they
are close to Anaheim.


Next, some companies to contact. I searched their sites for "MLG," and most have nothing except where noted.

National News Stations

+ Show Spoiler +
-MSNBC
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10285339/
This has the most current info with the 3 articles listed above. Nothing really deserving of the title "story".

-CNN
They have two feedbacks that are titled "News Tip" or "Story Idea". I'm not sure which is most appropriate. I leave to you to decide.

CNN News Tip
http://www.cnn.com/feedback/show/?s=newstip

CNN News Story
http://www.cnn.com/feedback/show/?s=storyidea

-Fox News
http://help.foxnews.com/entries/500736-where-can-i-send-story-questions-corrections-or-news-tips
Has articles and videos mentioning MLG from 2008. I hate to admit it, but it may be our best shot.

-Marketplace from American Public Media
This is actually a national public radio show about business news that I like to listen to once in a while.
They sometimes run stories about niche business news. When contacting them some history of the business side
of eSports may catch their interest. Maybe focus on the online distribution? Best part, is they are located
in LA so they should be able to send someone over on short notice if they are interested.

http://www.publicradio.org/applications/formbuilder/user/form_display.php?form_code=53214004afb5


Local News to Anaheim/LA, CA

+ Show Spoiler +
-Local NBC
http://www.nbclosangeles.com/
Email is in upper right corner.

-Local CBS
http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/station/cbs-kcal/
Has email address under news tips a little bit down page.

-Local ABC
http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/feature?section=resources/inside_station&id=5788340

-Local Fox
http://www.myfoxla.com/story/18678083/contact-us
Appears to only be telephone numbers.



Late Night Talk Shows

They often do bits where they interview people at conventions/events. Sometimes the fans are the butt of the jokes. It's up to you to decide if they are worth contacting. Personally, I think it would be kind of cool to see MLG on one of these shows. These are some located in CA.

-The Tonight Show with Jay Leno
http://www.nbc.com/contact/general/
Have to pick out Tonight Show from list

-Conan O'Brien

TBS contact info
http://support.tbs.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=5475

Conan show website
http://teamcoco.com/
No email. Just facebook and twitter. On right hand side of page.

Any suggestions/comments would be greatly appreciated. Even if you can't contact everybody, please just
contact at least a random selection. I'll post when I'm done making my contacts and I encourage you to do
the same to show support.
"In mathematics you don't understand things. You just get used to them." - John Von Neumann
CruelZeratul
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany4588 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-03 22:53:49
June 03 2012 22:48 GMT
#30
*edit: nevermind, sry, liquipedia has all the answeres*
zEnVy
Profile Joined June 2011
United States446 Posts
June 03 2012 23:26 GMT
#31
Finally got into diamond today :D

10-2 in my last 12 games against diamond players as well, hopefully I won't be here too long.
DrLOAC
Profile Joined May 2011
United States53 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-04 02:52:30
June 04 2012 02:41 GMT
#32
On June 03 2012 16:07 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2012 12:46 Digitalis wrote:
A question I've always wondered is, how are the booths for tournaments? Are they all air conditioned? Do some tournaments have better booths than others? Does it get hot in there ? Does it ever smell in there?

The GSL booths never get too hot, their studio is kinda cold even in the summer.
MLG booths can be scorching hot as far as I remember, but I thiiiiiiiink they may also be the most soundproof? Not entirely sure.
I don't remember much from DH booths except that they were nice lol

Show nested quote +
On June 03 2012 12:52 TigerSushi183 wrote:
Hey im new into starcraft and wonder what is the best race to go for? i dont care about simplicity or not ive played many RTSs before ( such as C&C and sadly Halo wars >.<) any pointers?

Terran is the most aggressive and offensive multitask oriented race, and it also really lends itself to good use of terrain. Also probably has the most diverse styles of play with how different mech vs biomech vs bio plays out, and the relative viability of all three options in all three matchups (much less so mech in TvP). By far the most micro heavy race.

Zerg is the most passive race (though I think this gives slightly the wrong impression as they have a lot of aggressive options too, just that they benefit the most from being left to their own devices) and a race that will really benefit from a broad perspective I think (you will be very spread out, constantly increasing your creep and with bases all over the map you have to really be on your toes to keep them all defended). Probably the race that depends the most on having carefully mapped out openings, as you always wanna skirt the line of 'just enough' shit to not die, while being as greedy as possible. Least demanding microwise.

Protoss has a lot of bullshit they can pull, with viable timings at every stage of the game (kind of similar to terran). Early game you'll have a lot of micro potential and cute (bullshit) moves, or you can just sit back and go for a more economical play. Incredibly strong 2 base timings. Late midgame you will generally be playing a 'ball' game, moving your gigantic blob of combined arms around the map slaughtering shit and expanding behind it. Late game you have more map presence than any other race with the power of warp-ins turning a single pylon into a threat.


You know QQ'ing aside, bacuse that's what I'm going to do in a minute, as a forever bronze Terran my thoughts when seeing the supply structure for each race goes something as follows:

vs T:
A supply depot ooh lets kill it and supply block them.

vs Z:
Crap an Overlord saw my push. Well at least I can kill it and maybe supply block them.

vs P:
Sh!t Sh!t Sh!t a pylon! Why didn't I scout earlier! Maybe I can kill it before he warps in. Damn it!
51.6 @ 17500mph
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
June 04 2012 05:19 GMT
#33
The most infinitely valuable wisdom I could ever give you to help you on your personal trip through the leagues is this: Don't ever cry, whine, whinge or be affected by the perceived or actual short comings of your race. I am a zerg through and through. In the back of my head when I see a supply calldown I want to think about it being a shit ability for shit players that can't macro at all.

But I don't. Because if I do I will lose. I will think about things in terms of fairness instead of terms of victory. There is no fair or OP or cheap. There's a loss and a win. Don't worry blame your opponent or his race. You wouldn't say, "Oh I only won because my race is broken as fuck".

Just keep kicking peoples ass until you can find no more.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Rambopenguin
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom2 Posts
June 04 2012 12:10 GMT
#34
Hi im a silver Zerg player, and i used to play WoW( Bad i know) and my gaming mouse is a Razer Naga, i need to buy a new mouse for SC2 any recommended mouses and what is the best mouse to buy?
United we stand,Divided we fall.
DrLOAC
Profile Joined May 2011
United States53 Posts
June 04 2012 12:58 GMT
#35
On June 04 2012 14:19 Probe1 wrote:
The most infinitely valuable wisdom I could ever give you to help you on your personal trip through the leagues is this: Don't ever cry, whine, whinge or be affected by the perceived or actual short comings of your race. I am a zerg through and through. In the back of my head when I see a supply calldown I want to think about it being a shit ability for shit players that can't macro at all.

But I don't. Because if I do I will lose. I will think about things in terms of fairness instead of terms of victory. There is no fair or OP or cheap. There's a loss and a win. Don't worry blame your opponent or his race. You wouldn't say, "Oh I only won because my race is broken as fuck".

Just keep kicking peoples ass until you can find no more.



Don't worry my post was more to be humorous than any real issue I have against the other races. My failure to move out of bronze, for the last year and a half, is mostly due to lack of time to practice. Work and family mean I play about 4 games a week so improvement is slow.

Vs P:
I tend to scout after depot looking for cheese and if I don't find any I do a 1 Rax gasless FE into 3 Rax timing with stim, shields and concussive when my first two medivacs pop. I also try to be active with my first marine looking for proxy pylons. I actually feel like I understand this matchup the best right now.

Vs T:
I also tend to scout after depot looking for cheese and if I don't find any I do a 1 Rax gasless FE into marine tank medivac. My main issue here, aside from continuing to work on my macro, is I need to work on tank positional battles. Even if I'm ahead on my macro and supply I still lose way to many times by trying to break through siege lines. (I also have recently lost twice in the early game to massive reaper harrass. Is this a new thing? It hits between 6-7minutes with like 6-9 reapers)

Vs Z:

I'm still struggling here because I play it the least and am still trying together the hang of the reactor hellion opening. So I either die to an early bust because my hellions were late and I had no map control. Or I survive to the late late game but let the Zerg take most of the map.


In general though, when I lose I understand from the replay why I did, macro slipped, failed to scout, poor unit control, and i try to work on those areas for next time. Good news is i now win most of bronze v bronze matches and only lose to silver and gold. Maybe I'll make it out of bronze yet.
51.6 @ 17500mph
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
June 04 2012 16:56 GMT
#36
Honest to god, just pick a build and do it every time. With practice you'll be able to execute it comfortably and win at least 50% of your games then out of bronze and into silver you go!

I know that cheese is hard when you don't play often. I lost to a 8p double spine the other day. It happens; don't even think about it. As long as you (focus) practice macroing and executing a build properly then you'll improve.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
KvltMan
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sweden1609 Posts
June 04 2012 17:03 GMT
#37
On June 04 2012 21:10 Rambopenguin wrote:
Hi im a silver Zerg player, and i used to play WoW( Bad i know) and my gaming mouse is a Razer Naga, i need to buy a new mouse for SC2 any recommended mouses and what is the best mouse to buy?

Depends on how much you want to pay, but in general the Razer Deathadder is a very good product for a pretty good price. I'd go for one now after I got myself a useless SteelSeries Kinzu, lol.
Get crunk
DrLOAC
Profile Joined May 2011
United States53 Posts
June 04 2012 17:10 GMT
#38
On June 05 2012 01:56 Probe1 wrote:
Honest to god, just pick a build and do it every time. With practice you'll be able to execute it comfortably and win at least 50% of your games then out of bronze and into silver you go!

I know that cheese is hard when you don't play often. I lost to a 8p double spine the other day. It happens; don't even think about it. As long as you (focus) practice macroing and executing a build properly then you'll improve.


I did: 1 Rax FE. I aim for 3 Rax 1 Fact 1 port & an eng bay by the time I push. I change whether I go tanks or straight to medivacs if I'm playing T or P. It's working as I'm playing silver and gold players now.

The only thing I can't hold is against one base Z if I FE. I always get baneling busted even with bunkers. So I've been trying the reactored hellion opening.

In any event after each loss or win I watch the replay and see where I was missing SCV production, where I was floating minerals and where my unit control fell short and try and work on it accordingly.

Judging from the players I'm playing I have been improving for several months. But when you play as many games in a week as some folks play in an hour it takes a while for your MMR to rise.
51.6 @ 17500mph
ThirdDegree
Profile Joined February 2011
United States329 Posts
June 04 2012 17:33 GMT
#39
On June 03 2012 12:52 TigerSushi183 wrote:
Hey im new into starcraft and wonder what is the best race to go for? i dont care about simplicity or not ive played many RTSs before ( such as C&C and sadly Halo wars >.<) any pointers?


If watching pros play isn't boring to you (it took me some getting familiar with the game before pro play became interesting) then watch some videos and see what styles you like and what you would like to do (ultimately, obviously learning basics comes first). If no race really jumps out at you, just play random for a bit and see what you like.
I am terrible
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
June 04 2012 18:03 GMT
#40
It sounds like you have a very good idea of what you want to do. If you want analysis on what you should specifically practice shoot me a pm with a replay and I'll (probably) say focus on macroing. Until I reached platinum 9/10 Terrans that beat me did so by simply being able to out produce me and bury me under boots and treads.

The only thing I can't hold is against one base Z if I FE. I always get baneling busted even with bunkers. So I've been trying the reactored hellion opening.

Scouting. You see a baneling nest in the first 5 minutes, he's going to bust you. Maybe in gold he might be concerned that you're going to 3rax all in but in bronze- he will bust you. Simply put your barracks at the top of the ramp and build a bunker behind them and he'll never get in as long as you have more than 2 marines. Keep your 2nd CC in your main and oversaturate your mineral line while pumping marine-tank. Move to your nat once you have siege to cover the marines, float your second CC and build up bunkers/depots.

Even repositioning your barracks to be part of your wall at the nat can be useful. Every baneling that splodes on a building is a baneling that just helped you win.
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