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On June 01 2012 06:12 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2012 06:01 Dodgin wrote:On June 01 2012 05:59 Blunt_Dr wrote:
How are people about to complain about people coming into esports for the money? would you rather it stay in the underground and never gain any attention at all? come on now people smarten up...this NEEDS to happen. Big thanks to CBSi for giving eSports a chance. a lot of people like things the way they are now, including me. edit: not to say that I have any problems with this deal, It's just advertising as far as we know. The scene cannot stay the way it is. Most of the leagues are losing money and need to get access to more profitable ads deals, like this one. But CBSi doesn't want to change things to much. They only have to sell the ads, not make the content.
like I said there's nothing bad about this, my comment was just towards the bolded part. I don't want starcraft 2 to be " mainstream " and the scene obviously can continue the way it is, if that means some tournaments collapse then so be it. over- saturation of sc2 content is an issue right now so may the best tournaments survive.
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This will inject more money into esports for sure which is a good thing. But when you see the false information in the press release i am not sure where such an ad monopoly will take us. This was not the way ESPORTS was grown.
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It's important for players to get their fair share of advertising dollars, since without them eSports can't exist. I hope the bigger names band together and unionize in a sense. Seek legal advice. It may seem trivial now, but in another few years when these tournaments are televised and networks are making millions, players and broadcasters need to be sitting at the same table.
Don't wait until it's too late.
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On June 01 2012 06:18 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2012 06:12 Plansix wrote:On June 01 2012 06:01 Dodgin wrote:On June 01 2012 05:59 Blunt_Dr wrote:
How are people about to complain about people coming into esports for the money? would you rather it stay in the underground and never gain any attention at all? come on now people smarten up...this NEEDS to happen. Big thanks to CBSi for giving eSports a chance. a lot of people like things the way they are now, including me. edit: not to say that I have any problems with this deal, It's just advertising as far as we know. The scene cannot stay the way it is. Most of the leagues are losing money and need to get access to more profitable ads deals, like this one. But CBSi doesn't want to change things to much. They only have to sell the ads, not make the content. like I said there's nothing bad about this, my comment was just towards the bolded part. I don't want starcraft 2 to be " mainstream " and the scene obviously can continue the way it is, if that means some tournaments collapse then so be it. over- saturation of sc2 content is an issue right now so may the best tournaments survive.
SC2 and Esports will likely remain a niche product for years. Underground and mainstream are really overused words, nearly meaningless words anyways. We want Esports to be successful and reach a lot of people who enjoy it. There is enough out there where their can be something for everyone.
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Good news.
I'm really having a nice chuckle at all the conspiracy theorists in here too.
I hope CBSi is able to pitch big live events as the "Super Bowls" of eSports so that those tournaments can get much higher CPM on the ads they run, resulting in league growth.
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how does this effect sponsorships of these individual leagues? Or is it just if they run an advertisement using twitch's system that CBSi takes that?
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I think this is good in general =D
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Great news, more money for e-sports means faster development of SC2.
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Interesting!
Hopefully it will help grow the scene even bigger 
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On June 01 2012 06:40 LittleAtari wrote:
how does this effect sponsorships of these individual leagues? Or is it just if they run an advertisement using twitch's system that CBSi takes that?
That's basically all it is. CBSi is paying to have their ads run on twitch etc. in addition to (presumably) the ads you would see at MLG etc
This isn't even necessarily going to make them money I'm pretty sure twitch and own3d et all have a hard time filling ads because we never buy the shit we see
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So they basically just won the advertising rights for twitch in the U.S? ok...good for them!
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On June 01 2012 06:37 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Good news.
I'm really having a nice chuckle at all the conspiracy theorists in here too.
I hope CBSi is able to pitch big live events as the "Super Bowls" of eSports so that those tournaments can get much higher CPM on the ads they run, resulting in league growth.
You are right, it's a conspiracy theory that without competition a product will become worse and more expensive. I don't know how it would apply here, but for sure it would have been better if 2 corporations would have bought "it".
Oh and by the way, KeSPA has a nice history you can read on and see what conspiracy theory monopoly did in bw.
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On June 01 2012 06:56 bOneSeven wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2012 06:37 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Good news.
I'm really having a nice chuckle at all the conspiracy theorists in here too.
I hope CBSi is able to pitch big live events as the "Super Bowls" of eSports so that those tournaments can get much higher CPM on the ads they run, resulting in league growth. You are right, it's a conspiracy theory that without competition a product will become worse and more expensive. I don't know how it would apply here, but for sure it would have been better if 2 corporations would have bought "it". Oh and by the way, KeSPA has a nice history you can read on and see what conspiracy theory monopoly did in bw.
You claiming that a "product" will become more "expensive" as a result of this just shows that you lack an understanding of what the deal is about. You probably couldn't even explain the role CBSi is filling here so maybe hold off on the sweeping conclusions.
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As long as it doesn't make everything a lot more expensive, and there are still free mid quality streams for other things. (I pay for GSL, MLG, MASL) then i'm sure it's going to be great!
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I hope this is a step in the right direction. It most certainly seems so!
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On June 01 2012 07:02 Doodsmack wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2012 06:56 bOneSeven wrote:On June 01 2012 06:37 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Good news.
I'm really having a nice chuckle at all the conspiracy theorists in here too.
I hope CBSi is able to pitch big live events as the "Super Bowls" of eSports so that those tournaments can get much higher CPM on the ads they run, resulting in league growth. You are right, it's a conspiracy theory that without competition a product will become worse and more expensive. I don't know how it would apply here, but for sure it would have been better if 2 corporations would have bought "it". Oh and by the way, KeSPA has a nice history you can read on and see what conspiracy theory monopoly did in bw. You claiming that a "product" will become more "expensive" as a result of this just shows that you lack an understanding of what the deal is about. You probably couldn't even explain the role CBSi is filling here so maybe hold off on the sweeping conclusions.
Dude, I'm almost sure that this helps the scene a lot. I'm just saying that overtime ( presuming the scene would grow by itself even more ) it won't possibly be the best thing for esports. I don't say I'm sure of it, I'm just seeing in my country how lack of good competition brings us below horrible products.
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Being partnered with a company for a time is not eternal, contracts end and change. They don't have anything near a monopoly, and even if they did, the NFL has a monopoly on football, the NBA has one on basketball, etc. It's part of organized sports. And hell, monopolies exist everywhere and are not exclusively bad. Fire Departments are monopolies. There were parts of the country that in fact at various points had competing fire departments, and the competition led to arson, brawling, and not very much helping people.
More money in the scene is only a good thing. It is very much needed for the scene to grow and thrive.
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this means that pretty soon, there is going to be a serious change on how we watch tournaments and everything. I wouldnt be surprised if they made you pay for EVERYTHING now.
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