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johnny123
Profile Joined February 2012
521 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-29 21:47:23
May 29 2012 21:46 GMT
#21
On May 30 2012 06:30 MrCash wrote:
I am extremely curious on how successful the League of Legends arena will be.
I've quit the game about the time I started playing SC2 and wasn't part of the game when it started to explode in popularity and notoriety. Since then I've had the perception of the game being filled with a very young audience, which likes free games, but either won't or doesn't have money to invest into it.
Since LoL appears to have been rather profitable, that assumption was probably wrong, but the success of this (I assume) paid arena would be a good gauge of how successful it can actually be as an eSport to me.

The reason pure viewer numbers don't say everything, is if the sponsors invest tons of money into a game, but still don't see a return on their investment, it doesn't matter how many viewers it has. Some investments simply yield better results. That's been my perception of SC2, in that with lower viewers, it was a more mature audience with who investors would yield better returns. That was just my perspective, and this would be a good way to confirm or disprove it.





Actually sundance said on his twitter a while back that the League of Legends arena will be free to watch. As always the starcraft 2 fans get shitted on with this PPV model , while the LOL guys get free to play ,free to watch 24/7


Inb4 sc2 5000 paying customers vs 200,000 free viewers comment arguements start up.
Favorite players,Stephano/MVP/Nestea/Gumiho/Life/Jaedong/MMA
MLG_Adam
Profile Joined July 2010
United States994 Posts
May 29 2012 21:47 GMT
#22
On May 30 2012 06:46 johnny123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 06:30 MrCash wrote:
I am extremely curious on how successful the League of Legends arena will be.
I've quit the game about the time I started playing SC2 and wasn't part of the game when it started to explode in popularity and notoriety. Since then I've had the perception of the game being filled with a very young audience, which likes free games, but either won't or doesn't have money to invest into it.
Since LoL appears to have been rather profitable, that assumption was probably wrong, but the success of this (I assume) paid arena would be a good gauge of how successful it can actually be as an eSport to me.

The reason pure viewer numbers don't say everything, is if the sponsors invest tons of money into a game, but still don't see a return on their investment, it doesn't matter how many viewers it has. Some investments simply yield better results. That's been my perception of SC2, in that with lower viewers, it was a more mature audience with who investors would yield better returns. That was just my perspective, and this would be a good way to confirm or disprove it.





Actually sundance said on his twitter a while back that the League of Legends arena will be free to watch. As always the starcraft 2 fans get shitted on with this PPV model , while the LOL guys get free to play free to watch.


Inb4 sc2 5000 paying customers vs 200,000 free viewers comments.



Settle Wait on details.
Twitter: MrAdamAp
johnny123
Profile Joined February 2012
521 Posts
May 29 2012 21:51 GMT
#23
On May 30 2012 06:47 MLG_Adam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 06:46 johnny123 wrote:
On May 30 2012 06:30 MrCash wrote:
I am extremely curious on how successful the League of Legends arena will be.
I've quit the game about the time I started playing SC2 and wasn't part of the game when it started to explode in popularity and notoriety. Since then I've had the perception of the game being filled with a very young audience, which likes free games, but either won't or doesn't have money to invest into it.
Since LoL appears to have been rather profitable, that assumption was probably wrong, but the success of this (I assume) paid arena would be a good gauge of how successful it can actually be as an eSport to me.

The reason pure viewer numbers don't say everything, is if the sponsors invest tons of money into a game, but still don't see a return on their investment, it doesn't matter how many viewers it has. Some investments simply yield better results. That's been my perception of SC2, in that with lower viewers, it was a more mature audience with who investors would yield better returns. That was just my perspective, and this would be a good way to confirm or disprove it.





Actually sundance said on his twitter a while back that the League of Legends arena will be free to watch. As always the starcraft 2 fans get shitted on with this PPV model , while the LOL guys get free to play free to watch.


Inb4 sc2 5000 paying customers vs 200,000 free viewers comments.



Settle Wait on details.


ill be waiting, is this hinting at maybe a free low quality viewing option? . Just wanna see my fav esport grow.
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Ezinurpain
Profile Joined September 2010
United States31 Posts
May 29 2012 21:51 GMT
#24
On May 30 2012 06:47 MLG_Adam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 06:46 johnny123 wrote:
On May 30 2012 06:30 MrCash wrote:
I am extremely curious on how successful the League of Legends arena will be.
I've quit the game about the time I started playing SC2 and wasn't part of the game when it started to explode in popularity and notoriety. Since then I've had the perception of the game being filled with a very young audience, which likes free games, but either won't or doesn't have money to invest into it.
Since LoL appears to have been rather profitable, that assumption was probably wrong, but the success of this (I assume) paid arena would be a good gauge of how successful it can actually be as an eSport to me.

The reason pure viewer numbers don't say everything, is if the sponsors invest tons of money into a game, but still don't see a return on their investment, it doesn't matter how many viewers it has. Some investments simply yield better results. That's been my perception of SC2, in that with lower viewers, it was a more mature audience with who investors would yield better returns. That was just my perspective, and this would be a good way to confirm or disprove it.





Actually sundance said on his twitter a while back that the League of Legends arena will be free to watch. As always the starcraft 2 fans get shitted on with this PPV model , while the LOL guys get free to play free to watch.


Inb4 sc2 5000 paying customers vs 200,000 free viewers comments.



Settle Wait on details.


Thank you Adam. Sundance also said on Twitter that he was working on a sponsor who wanted to make SC2 free as well. People should try to be patient and wait for the full details.
EG fighting!
MrCash
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1504 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-29 21:53:57
May 29 2012 21:53 GMT
#25
On May 30 2012 06:46 johnny123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 06:30 MrCash wrote:
I am extremely curious on how successful the League of Legends arena will be.
I've quit the game about the time I started playing SC2 and wasn't part of the game when it started to explode in popularity and notoriety. Since then I've had the perception of the game being filled with a very young audience, which likes free games, but either won't or doesn't have money to invest into it.
Since LoL appears to have been rather profitable, that assumption was probably wrong, but the success of this (I assume) paid arena would be a good gauge of how successful it can actually be as an eSport to me.

The reason pure viewer numbers don't say everything, is if the sponsors invest tons of money into a game, but still don't see a return on their investment, it doesn't matter how many viewers it has. Some investments simply yield better results. That's been my perception of SC2, in that with lower viewers, it was a more mature audience with who investors would yield better returns. That was just my perspective, and this would be a good way to confirm or disprove it.





Actually sundance said on his twitter a while back that the League of Legends arena will be free to watch. As always the starcraft 2 fans get shitted on with this PPV model , while the LOL guys get free to play ,free to watch 24/7


Inb4 sc2 5000 paying customers vs 200,000 free viewers comment arguements start up.


If true, it would make some sense.
I don't really feel MLG has remotely as much of name recognition/rapport with the LoL community as they do with SC2.
There is to be expected some initial investments and losses to be had, a loss leader product if you will.
That being said, if this first one is free and subsequent ones are not, the rage you saw from the SC2 community about paid Arenas will be nothing in comparison to the typhoon you would see from the LoL community.
Amaterasu1234
Profile Joined November 2010
United States317 Posts
May 29 2012 21:53 GMT
#26
...why all the west coast hate!? They're all so far away! :'(
Kazeyonoma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2912 Posts
May 29 2012 21:55 GMT
#27
man, anaheim is so hyped. i imagine raleigh is gonna blow the east coast off the planet =P
I now have autographs of both BoxeR and NaDa. I can die happy. Lim Yo Hwan and Lee Yun Yeol FIGHTING forever!
Samp
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada783 Posts
May 29 2012 21:56 GMT
#28
why always in the US...............
Sundance teased us and nothing has changed so far.
Banelings, "They're cute, they live in a nest". -Artosis
TheRealNanMan
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1471 Posts
May 29 2012 22:07 GMT
#29
I'm so excited for this!! East Coast MLGs all the way!

I look forward to meeting and hanging out with everyone at Raliegh
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JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
May 29 2012 22:12 GMT
#30
On May 30 2012 06:38 SpiZe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 06:30 MrCash wrote:
I am extremely curious on how successful the League of Legends arena will be.
I've quit the game about the time I started playing SC2 and wasn't part of the game when it started to explode in popularity and notoriety. Since then I've had the perception of the game being filled with a very young audience, which likes free games, but either won't or doesn't have money to invest into it.
Since LoL appears to have been rather profitable, that assumption was probably wrong, but the success of this (I assume) paid arena would be a good gauge of how successful it can actually be as an eSport to me.

The reason pure viewer numbers don't say everything, is if the sponsors invest tons of money into a game, but still don't see a return on their investment, it doesn't matter how many viewers it has. Some investments simply yield better results. That's been my perception of SC2, in that with lower viewers, it was a more mature audience with who investors would yield better returns. That was just my perspective, and this would be a good way to confirm or disprove it.


Very good post and this is the main problem that LoL has as an esports to me. I do see LoL players paying to get characters and stuff, but I have trouble seeing them to pay for an event or HD or w/e. This arena should be a pretty big tell on what is the future of LoL as an esports.

On the other hand, nothing groundbreaking, should still be kickass tho


Have there ever been concrete numbers about the Arenas?
dejvo
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden20 Posts
May 29 2012 22:14 GMT
#31
SWEET!
Popcorn1
Profile Joined August 2010
United States92 Posts
May 29 2012 22:17 GMT
#32
Nice, I really like Raleigh
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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
May 29 2012 22:19 GMT
#33
On May 30 2012 06:23 Dontkillme wrote:
Do they always have these events at the same places at every year :/ ?

They had more venues in like 04 but quickly figured out which ones had enough space for their expansions and enough turnout for a location there to make sense.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
May 29 2012 22:20 GMT
#34
On May 30 2012 06:53 MrCash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 06:46 johnny123 wrote:
On May 30 2012 06:30 MrCash wrote:
I am extremely curious on how successful the League of Legends arena will be.
I've quit the game about the time I started playing SC2 and wasn't part of the game when it started to explode in popularity and notoriety. Since then I've had the perception of the game being filled with a very young audience, which likes free games, but either won't or doesn't have money to invest into it.
Since LoL appears to have been rather profitable, that assumption was probably wrong, but the success of this (I assume) paid arena would be a good gauge of how successful it can actually be as an eSport to me.

The reason pure viewer numbers don't say everything, is if the sponsors invest tons of money into a game, but still don't see a return on their investment, it doesn't matter how many viewers it has. Some investments simply yield better results. That's been my perception of SC2, in that with lower viewers, it was a more mature audience with who investors would yield better returns. That was just my perspective, and this would be a good way to confirm or disprove it.





Actually sundance said on his twitter a while back that the League of Legends arena will be free to watch. As always the starcraft 2 fans get shitted on with this PPV model , while the LOL guys get free to play ,free to watch 24/7


Inb4 sc2 5000 paying customers vs 200,000 free viewers comment arguements start up.


If true, it would make some sense.
I don't really feel MLG has remotely as much of name recognition/rapport with the LoL community as they do with SC2.
There is to be expected some initial investments and losses to be had, a loss leader product if you will.
That being said, if this first one is free and subsequent ones are not, the rage you saw from the SC2 community about paid Arenas will be nothing in comparison to the typhoon you would see from the LoL community.

Yeah, there's alot of competition in the LoL space right now so MLG has to get its foot in the door, same way MLG HQ used to be free for SC2. I'd be surprised if they weren't charging LoL in like a year though.
Gojira621
Profile Joined October 2010
United States374 Posts
May 29 2012 22:20 GMT
#35
THANK YOU MLG FOR COMING BACK TO RALEIGH. seriously. I live a few hours away, competed in open bracket last year, got crushed bc i was a terrible plat terran back then (terrible diamond zerg now lol), but still had an incredibly good time. The site is right in the heart of downtown raleigh which is a really nice place and I'm hoping I have a chance to compete again and I'm sure MLG is going to make it even better than last year. Thank you guys! Looking forward to it!!
www.twitch.tv/Gojira621
NemesysTV
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1088 Posts
May 29 2012 22:22 GMT
#36
Will spectators ever be allowed in MLG Arenas in NY?
genius_man16
Profile Joined February 2011
United States749 Posts
May 29 2012 22:22 GMT
#37
Bleh. Why do they have to have two events in NYC? Can't they do some other city like KC or Dallas? You know, somewhere within driving distance for people in the midwest.

Raleigh is driveable but that's just as school starts up so I can't go. Le sigh. Oh well I guess.
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Testuser
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
6469 Posts
May 29 2012 22:24 GMT
#38
Summer League of Legends Arena? I guess LoL is really becomming big.

I just can't get myself to enjoy it, and I really think it pales in comparison to the two other big MOBA's, Heroes of Newerth and Dota 2. Oh well....
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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
May 29 2012 22:26 GMT
#39
Nice. Unfortunately, won't be in the country anymore by the time Raleigh rolls around ;;
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
BoomNasty
Profile Joined June 2011
United States265 Posts
May 29 2012 22:28 GMT
#40
Wish they went to different cities =(
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