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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.

Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence.
mYiKane
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1772 Posts
July 01 2012 08:15 GMT
#1601
On July 01 2012 17:13 TheeCrooKed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2012 04:51 LgNKane wrote:
http://drop.sc/209937

vs isuruscham, pretty suspicious of his blind countering my spire without scouting it, his 9 pool into making no lings, etc.

not completely sure but its definitely suspect.


I have to say that there were 2 moments in this game that were suspect to me. First thing was the blind spine crawler in his base after he 9 pools. This is completely non standard and this is never done unless you know an early cheesy attack is coming, which he shouldnt have known about according to his vision. He does spot your drone with his 3rd overlord as it is leaving his base, but at that point his spine crawler was already being built before spotting this drone.

Now the counter to the spire is less suspect to me, as he did see you had 4 gas taken. It was convenient timing to make the spores/hydras while you build mutas, but this could just be good timing.

The 2nd shady moment for me is towards the end of the game when you are looking to push his 3rd. Right when you start to morph in approx 15 blings to attack with your muta/ling, he spreads out all his units. This is also non conclusive evidence, but it's just really shady. The strongest evidence for me is the blind defensive spine crawler. It just baffles me why you would do this unless you knew it was coming.


EXACTLY what iw as thinking. i made mby edrunk but I sure as fuck know when something is uspecxt and I know that was.
Sepi
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland231 Posts
July 01 2012 09:43 GMT
#1602
On July 01 2012 09:41 FT.aCt)Sony wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2012 05:18 Sepi wrote:
On June 29 2012 10:34 ZweiGaming wrote:
On June 28 2012 12:16 Doodsmack wrote:
Found another GM hacker on the NA server. IMMvp, currently rank 186. Unfortunately all I have is a team game replay, and since there's no obvious fog of war peeking, this wouldn't be considered proof since it could be his teammates that are doing the hacking. However he clearly has very poor mechanics, yet is in GM, which alone is highly suspicious. His account was previously in silver and gold but was high master last season and GM this season. When I pointed out his poor mechanics to him after the game, he said "I was eating" (see below - classic far-fetched excuse used by a hacker who's been caught). I went through his match history and told everyone to report him. Unfortunately all his 1v1 ladder games are from a week ago and none of the people I PMed still had their replay. Hopefully some high level players will see this thread and post their replay if they play him.

In the replay you will notice he clearly is waiting for the attacking that comes at ~9:30, and also is waiting for the drop that comes at ~16:50.

http://www.sctemple.com/replay/260581/

The funny part is that I curb stomped him and his team 1v3 after both my teammates left. It's at least heartening to know that most of these hackers are so fundamentally bad at the game that they can easily be caught.

[image loading]

[image loading]


I cannot base my replay analysis on team games. It is suspect to jump from silver/gold to GM, but it could very well be account leveling, which is not the discussion in here. Let's not accuse people without according evidence please


Isn't this guy Beastyqt? I have seen him playing the exact same tag in hisSea account, but i'm not sure if he has one in the NA server too.
I think that i saw once he played whit that on NA but not definately sure. Dunno why would he play team games though.

Thats the Exact same nick that i have seen surely him playing on SEA server.

It would make sense, because he was in the states and is right now? when he trained at the razer house.

And if hes Beastyqt hes not cheating and he was propably eating :D And in that case you were just annoying prick to him.

I dont know why he would argue whit you though even though it would be irritating if you would accuse him something he isn't certainly not. But as said, he could be the tshingish khan as far as i know. I have just seen exact same nick in his hands.


Guess you didn't hear, people can make the same name just different identifier #.

Anyone can be anybody and just impersonate them, abuse, hack, stream cheat, etc.. in an attempt to harm ones image. Can't really say "thats the same exact nick" because there is no evidence unless you have the identifier or real id.


I dind't actually know that, if the # can have multiple nicks. But it is likely though if he uses that for his smurfs that he could be the real one? And i said that there is no way to prove it lol.
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Bouli
Profile Joined June 2012
Belgium17 Posts
July 01 2012 09:53 GMT
#1603
On July 01 2012 16:07 OutOfMyMind_pro wrote:
So how many times have you guys opened with a pylon first at the nat against random? I've got a couple of hundred games with random and no Protoss have ever gone with a pylon first at the nat. And you wanna know why? Because they know I could be 6pooling/proxy raxing/proxy gating and to build your pylon there is a one hundred procent suicide against t/p and luck based if you scout the zerg early.

So you say he said that he is just gonna "guess"? Do you wanna know who guesses blindly like that every game? Hackers.

He invested a thousand minerals on the upper ground at the 3rd to counter my 3rd base without ever seeing it, because of the metagame? What? Who said I play by the "metagame"? Do you guys invest a thousand minerals in turrets without seeing any mutalisk? How does that work really? If I was doing a 2base all in how was he supposed to stop it with investing so much in canons at the 3rd? Oh wait he probably knew I was not doing that.

Nobody fucking plays like that. Nobody. He does two super obvious moves that flat out expose him as a hacker. Just watch the game from his perspective and then come here,put your arm on your chest and tell me truth.

Mid-high master P here, i always open pylon on lowground against random, its good vs zerg and doable vs terran. I am only in a bad shape when its a protoss, but thats a 66% gamble, so i prefer this then gateway expo against zerg.
Appear strong when you are weak
MegaFonzie
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia1084 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-01 10:32:24
July 01 2012 10:14 GMT
#1604
On July 01 2012 05:59 OutOfMyMind_pro wrote:
Jesus Blizzard

Played a second blatant hacker in a few days. I'm playing random against his Protoss. He puts down his first pylon at the choke in the nat ready to forge fast expand knowing I've got fucking zerg. Later in the game he goes for building canons in the upper ground on the 3rd without seeing at all if I have expanded there.

REPLAY LINK

Excuse me, but how the fuck is a person supposed to keep his motivation playing?

PS: Don't even mention my manner in the game. This is fucking disgusting


If randoms dont tell me their race from the get go I actually low ground pylon as well. Its an autoloss to proxies, but everything else is perfectly workable, even in PvP. Sure, it's not the best and safest way to play, but I really don't like playing vs random so it's just what I do. I'm a high masters protoss. As for the cannoning the 3rd; is it fishy? Sure, kind of, but at the same time, 95% of the time the zerg will take that hatchery. It's perfectly conceivable that he takes that chance and does it blindly. Some people just play like that, you have to learn to deal with it.

People have to stop posting in here acting like they have 100% exposed hackers when the evidence they provide is inconclusive.
@x5_MegaFonzie
dukem
Profile Joined January 2011
Norway189 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-01 10:27:36
July 01 2012 10:24 GMT
#1605
On July 01 2012 05:59 OutOfMyMind_pro wrote:
Jesus Blizzard

Played a second blatant hacker in a few days. I'm playing random against his Protoss. He puts down his first pylon at the choke in the nat ready to forge fast expand knowing I've got fucking zerg. Later in the game he goes for building canons in the upper ground on the 3rd without seeing at all if I have expanded there.

REPLAY LINK

Excuse me, but how the fuck is a person supposed to keep his motivation playing?

PS: Don't even mention my manner in the game. This is fucking disgusting


You are the problem. You are the pest of the community, accusing people of hacking without even solid proof. I've checked the replay, and the only thing I saw, was a protoss guessing your race (if its Z or T, FFE is fine) and thats a 66% chance of being right. Then he cannons up your third, because it is a fucking logical response from you to take a 3rd, when a protoss FFE.

Also, check his EPM (Shift C), you'll see his average "spam" is always high, meaning he cant be "looking at your base with locked camera". People like you are just plaguing the community with your ego all up your ass. You're just bad.

edit: he does also look at the fog, and the camera shows it, so he's definitely not using the oh so known hack
"Flash just accidentally killed grubby lol" - MangoMountain
Rassy
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2308 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-01 11:58:12
July 01 2012 11:52 GMT
#1606
What is this silly thing of people telling other people in an agressive way that they are "the pest of the community" lol
Dont they realise that this is just as bad for the community as the posts they attack?
Its been a trend on these forums wich i find realy awkward.
Just ignore such people if you think so.
ShatterZer0
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1843 Posts
July 01 2012 12:10 GMT
#1607
On July 01 2012 16:07 OutOfMyMind_pro wrote:
So how many times have you guys opened with a pylon first at the nat against random? I've got a couple of hundred games with random and no Protoss have ever gone with a pylon first at the nat. And you wanna know why? Because they know I could be 6pooling/proxy raxing/proxy gating and to build your pylon there is a one hundred procent suicide against t/p and luck based if you scout the zerg early.

So you say he said that he is just gonna "guess"? Do you wanna know who guesses blindly like that every game? Hackers.

He invested a thousand minerals on the upper ground at the 3rd to counter my 3rd base without ever seeing it, because of the metagame? What? Who said I play by the "metagame"? Do you guys invest a thousand minerals in turrets without seeing any mutalisk? How does that work really? If I was doing a 2base all in how was he supposed to stop it with investing so much in canons at the 3rd? Oh wait he probably knew I was not doing that.

Nobody fucking plays like that. Nobody. He does two super obvious moves that flat out expose him as a hacker. Just watch the game from his perspective and then come here,put your arm on your chest and tell me truth.


Ummm, isn't it common gaming to cheese, whether eco or agro, against random? I mean, PvRZ, high ground gate expands are fucking terrible. PvT Forge expos are doable/lowground gate expands are viable vs economically focused terran. PvP.... well it's PvP, they probably just think it's a crapshoot anyways.
A time to live.
korona
Profile Joined October 2009
1098 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-01 13:04:55
July 01 2012 12:45 GMT
#1608
On July 01 2012 19:14 MegaFonzie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2012 05:59 OutOfMyMind_pro wrote:
Jesus Blizzard

Played a second blatant hacker in a few days. I'm playing random against his Protoss. He puts down his first pylon at the choke in the nat ready to forge fast expand knowing I've got fucking zerg. Later in the game he goes for building canons in the upper ground on the 3rd without seeing at all if I have expanded there.

REPLAY LINK

Excuse me, but how the fuck is a person supposed to keep his motivation playing?

PS: Don't even mention my manner in the game. This is fucking disgusting


If randoms dont tell me their race from the get go I actually low ground pylon as well. Its an autoloss to proxies, but everything else is perfectly workable, even in PvP. Sure, it's not the best and safest way to play, but I really don't like playing vs random so it's just what I do. I'm a high masters protoss. As for the cannoning the 3rd; is it fishy? Sure, kind of, but at the same time, 95% of the time the zerg will take that hatchery. It's perfectly conceivable that he takes that chance and does it blindly. Some people just play like that, you have to learn to deal with it.

People have to stop posting in here acting like they have 100% exposed hackers when the evidence they provide is inconclusive.

On July 01 2012 21:10 ShatterZer0 wrote:
Ummm, isn't it common gaming to cheese, whether eco or agro, against random? I mean, PvRZ, high ground gate expands are fucking terrible. PvT Forge expos are doable/lowground gate expands are viable vs economically focused terran. PvP.... well it's PvP, they probably just think it's a crapshoot anyways.

Yes. As I play random both on EU and US I face surprisingly lot blind cheese & allins, which viability is completely luck based, from my opponents (much more in US than EU). It's either aggression based cheese (or allins) like 6 pools/proxies or greedy expansion nexus/cc/hatch first. Opponents who start trash talking or demanding my race in the beginning of the match seem much more likely to do this than the other opponents.
korona
Profile Joined October 2009
1098 Posts
July 01 2012 13:03 GMT
#1609
On July 01 2012 18:43 Sepi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2012 09:41 FT.aCt)Sony wrote:
On July 01 2012 05:18 Sepi wrote:
On June 29 2012 10:34 ZweiGaming wrote:
On June 28 2012 12:16 Doodsmack wrote:
Found another GM hacker on the NA server. IMMvp, currently rank 186. Unfortunately all I have is a team game replay, and since there's no obvious fog of war peeking, this wouldn't be considered proof since it could be his teammates that are doing the hacking. However he clearly has very poor mechanics, yet is in GM, which alone is highly suspicious. His account was previously in silver and gold but was high master last season and GM this season. When I pointed out his poor mechanics to him after the game, he said "I was eating" (see below - classic far-fetched excuse used by a hacker who's been caught). I went through his match history and told everyone to report him. Unfortunately all his 1v1 ladder games are from a week ago and none of the people I PMed still had their replay. Hopefully some high level players will see this thread and post their replay if they play him.

In the replay you will notice he clearly is waiting for the attacking that comes at ~9:30, and also is waiting for the drop that comes at ~16:50.

http://www.sctemple.com/replay/260581/

The funny part is that I curb stomped him and his team 1v3 after both my teammates left. It's at least heartening to know that most of these hackers are so fundamentally bad at the game that they can easily be caught.

[image loading]

[image loading]


I cannot base my replay analysis on team games. It is suspect to jump from silver/gold to GM, but it could very well be account leveling, which is not the discussion in here. Let's not accuse people without according evidence please


Isn't this guy Beastyqt? I have seen him playing the exact same tag in hisSea account, but i'm not sure if he has one in the NA server too.
I think that i saw once he played whit that on NA but not definately sure. Dunno why would he play team games though.

Thats the Exact same nick that i have seen surely him playing on SEA server.

It would make sense, because he was in the states and is right now? when he trained at the razer house.

And if hes Beastyqt hes not cheating and he was propably eating :D And in that case you were just annoying prick to him.

I dont know why he would argue whit you though even though it would be irritating if you would accuse him something he isn't certainly not. But as said, he could be the tshingish khan as far as i know. I have just seen exact same nick in his hands.


Guess you didn't hear, people can make the same name just different identifier #.

Anyone can be anybody and just impersonate them, abuse, hack, stream cheat, etc.. in an attempt to harm ones image. Can't really say "thats the same exact nick" because there is no evidence unless you have the identifier or real id.


I dind't actually know that, if the # can have multiple nicks. But it is likely though if he uses that for his smurfs that he could be the real one? And i said that there is no way to prove it lol.

I am not sure if you understood correctly:
On July 01 2012 14:23 korona wrote:
Account Bnet id is stored in the replay. If a certain account has been confirmed to be a sure hacker, it can be identified with that id even after a name change. Please note that I am not talking about the character code.

As the character code has 3 digits there can be 999 users who use same SC2 account name (or 1000 if 000 is possible) on each server. But each of these SC2 accounts have a unique Bnet account id (the integer that you can see in your Bnet web profile URL). This integer is stored in the replay file. If you catch a maphacker e.g. based on a clear replay evidence you can identify him also later based on his Bnet SC2 account id even if there are 998 other accounts that share the same name.
Sepi
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland231 Posts
July 01 2012 13:48 GMT
#1610
On July 01 2012 22:03 korona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2012 18:43 Sepi wrote:
On July 01 2012 09:41 FT.aCt)Sony wrote:
On July 01 2012 05:18 Sepi wrote:
On June 29 2012 10:34 ZweiGaming wrote:
On June 28 2012 12:16 Doodsmack wrote:
Found another GM hacker on the NA server. IMMvp, currently rank 186. Unfortunately all I have is a team game replay, and since there's no obvious fog of war peeking, this wouldn't be considered proof since it could be his teammates that are doing the hacking. However he clearly has very poor mechanics, yet is in GM, which alone is highly suspicious. His account was previously in silver and gold but was high master last season and GM this season. When I pointed out his poor mechanics to him after the game, he said "I was eating" (see below - classic far-fetched excuse used by a hacker who's been caught). I went through his match history and told everyone to report him. Unfortunately all his 1v1 ladder games are from a week ago and none of the people I PMed still had their replay. Hopefully some high level players will see this thread and post their replay if they play him.

In the replay you will notice he clearly is waiting for the attacking that comes at ~9:30, and also is waiting for the drop that comes at ~16:50.

http://www.sctemple.com/replay/260581/

The funny part is that I curb stomped him and his team 1v3 after both my teammates left. It's at least heartening to know that most of these hackers are so fundamentally bad at the game that they can easily be caught.

[image loading]

[image loading]


I cannot base my replay analysis on team games. It is suspect to jump from silver/gold to GM, but it could very well be account leveling, which is not the discussion in here. Let's not accuse people without according evidence please


Isn't this guy Beastyqt? I have seen him playing the exact same tag in hisSea account, but i'm not sure if he has one in the NA server too.
I think that i saw once he played whit that on NA but not definately sure. Dunno why would he play team games though.

Thats the Exact same nick that i have seen surely him playing on SEA server.

It would make sense, because he was in the states and is right now? when he trained at the razer house.

And if hes Beastyqt hes not cheating and he was propably eating :D And in that case you were just annoying prick to him.

I dont know why he would argue whit you though even though it would be irritating if you would accuse him something he isn't certainly not. But as said, he could be the tshingish khan as far as i know. I have just seen exact same nick in his hands.


Guess you didn't hear, people can make the same name just different identifier #.

Anyone can be anybody and just impersonate them, abuse, hack, stream cheat, etc.. in an attempt to harm ones image. Can't really say "thats the same exact nick" because there is no evidence unless you have the identifier or real id.


I dind't actually know that, if the # can have multiple nicks. But it is likely though if he uses that for his smurfs that he could be the real one? And i said that there is no way to prove it lol.

I am not sure if you understood correctly:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2012 14:23 korona wrote:
Account Bnet id is stored in the replay. If a certain account has been confirmed to be a sure hacker, it can be identified with that id even after a name change. Please note that I am not talking about the character code.

As the character code has 3 digits there can be 999 users who use same SC2 account name (or 1000 if 000 is possible) on each server. But each of these SC2 accounts have a unique Bnet account id (the integer that you can see in your Bnet web profile URL). This integer is stored in the replay file. If you catch a maphacker e.g. based on a clear replay evidence you can identify him also later based on his Bnet SC2 account id even if there are 998 other accounts that share the same name.

I know what is character code, and now i know that you can have multiple SAME names when the char code digits differ so ok.

BUT what i'm saying is that its unlikely that someone other than him could use the exact same nick and be in GM (if that account plays random its even more likely its him as he uses to play random on US). Offc you cannot be sure.
♞live like a windrammer as you fuck ♞
pOnarreT
Profile Joined March 2012
155 Posts
July 01 2012 14:00 GMT
#1611
On July 01 2012 16:07 OutOfMyMind_pro wrote:
So how many times have you guys opened with a pylon first at the nat against random? I've got a couple of hundred games with random and no Protoss have ever gone with a pylon first at the nat. And you wanna know why? Because they know I could be 6pooling/proxy raxing/proxy gating and to build your pylon there is a one hundred procent suicide against t/p and luck based if you scout the zerg early.

So you say he said that he is just gonna "guess"? Do you wanna know who guesses blindly like that every game? Hackers.

He invested a thousand minerals on the upper ground at the 3rd to counter my 3rd base without ever seeing it, because of the metagame? What? Who said I play by the "metagame"? Do you guys invest a thousand minerals in turrets without seeing any mutalisk? How does that work really? If I was doing a 2base all in how was he supposed to stop it with investing so much in canons at the 3rd? Oh wait he probably knew I was not doing that.

Nobody fucking plays like that. Nobody. He does two super obvious moves that flat out expose him as a hacker. Just watch the game from his perspective and then come here,put your arm on your chest and tell me truth.


I play random and have encountered P opening at natural many times. Not saying it's the best move though. And i lol'ed at the arm on the chest part.
1.01
Profile Joined October 2010
61 Posts
July 01 2012 14:14 GMT
#1612
LMFAO it's kind've pathetic how some maphackers are only in Master League (or lower LOL!). How is it possible to be so bad that you can't even make Grandmaster with a *maphack*?

Bookmarking for future reference and so that I may contribute if I run across any of these types of players.
"Quote" is a verb.
FinBenton
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland870 Posts
July 01 2012 14:17 GMT
#1613
Tbh almost every z takes 3rd vs toss so cannoning it up is not that bad + you then got safe place to warp units vs 2base muta..
branflakes14
Profile Joined July 2010
2082 Posts
July 01 2012 14:45 GMT
#1614
On July 01 2012 23:14 1.01 wrote:
LMFAO it's kind've pathetic how some maphackers are only in Master League (or lower LOL!). How is it possible to be so bad that you can't even make Grandmaster with a *maphack*?

Bookmarking for future reference and so that I may contribute if I run across any of these types of players.


What if there's more than 200 map hackers out there?
IamMagic
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada53 Posts
July 01 2012 17:25 GMT
#1615
I thought i'd bring this up cause I find it somewhat ironic that the individual responsible for making these youtube videos LGImbasfuts actually harbors proven maphackers in his team knowing and having stated they maphack, here are some examples

http://drop.sc/154502
http://drop.sc/153694

Here is LGImbasfuts responding to these accusations by saying that he will ban Bolero from the clan, a few weeks later a name change happens and Bolero changes his name to Kanade

Leader stating they will ban Bolero from the clan : http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=326556

Now its not only a matter of ladder points being taken by this cheater but the fact is LG is playing Kanade in official clan war games for money, I talked to the leader of LG and he says he gave the account to someone else (The only thing he can really say) but why would anyone ever want to play on the account of a proven maphacker? they risk not only the possibility of getting banned for incidents that they may/or may not have done but also being blamed for all the maphacking incidents of the past since drop.sc and other major replay sites automatically update a name change

just find it fishy thats all, things dont make sense. myself as a player would never use the account of a proven cheater and I don't understand why anyone else would either
www.twitch.tv/IamMagic_
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-01 17:37:03
July 01 2012 17:35 GMT
#1616
On July 01 2012 21:45 korona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2012 19:14 MegaFonzie wrote:
On July 01 2012 05:59 OutOfMyMind_pro wrote:
Jesus Blizzard

Played a second blatant hacker in a few days. I'm playing random against his Protoss. He puts down his first pylon at the choke in the nat ready to forge fast expand knowing I've got fucking zerg. Later in the game he goes for building canons in the upper ground on the 3rd without seeing at all if I have expanded there.

REPLAY LINK

Excuse me, but how the fuck is a person supposed to keep his motivation playing?

PS: Don't even mention my manner in the game. This is fucking disgusting


If randoms dont tell me their race from the get go I actually low ground pylon as well. Its an autoloss to proxies, but everything else is perfectly workable, even in PvP. Sure, it's not the best and safest way to play, but I really don't like playing vs random so it's just what I do. I'm a high masters protoss. As for the cannoning the 3rd; is it fishy? Sure, kind of, but at the same time, 95% of the time the zerg will take that hatchery. It's perfectly conceivable that he takes that chance and does it blindly. Some people just play like that, you have to learn to deal with it.

People have to stop posting in here acting like they have 100% exposed hackers when the evidence they provide is inconclusive.

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On July 01 2012 21:10 ShatterZer0 wrote:
Ummm, isn't it common gaming to cheese, whether eco or agro, against random? I mean, PvRZ, high ground gate expands are fucking terrible. PvT Forge expos are doable/lowground gate expands are viable vs economically focused terran. PvP.... well it's PvP, they probably just think it's a crapshoot anyways.

Yes. As I play random both on EU and US I face surprisingly lot blind cheese & allins, which viability is completely luck based, from my opponents (much more in US than EU). It's either aggression based cheese (or allins) like 6 pools/proxies or greedy expansion nexus/cc/hatch first. Opponents who start trash talking or demanding my race in the beginning of the match seem much more likely to do this than the other opponents.


I've run into being blind countered as random a lot as well, in fact I'd say the great majority of the time the play actually counters, which is quite the opposite of what you'd expect. Here's what I do, and I suggest you do as well - if after watching the replay and still feeling very suspicious of the guy, make a note of his name. Every other time you play him, do something continuously absurd that is designed to try to get the maphacker to show his hand. For instance, if he just doesn't ever scout, switch between cheese like 6 pool and something like 70 drones in 7 minutes with no units at all and then say dt rush or some shit. See how he reacts. Do mass doom drops when previously you never drop and he never patrols the edge of his base. It's a game of probability. Then you upload all those replays.

On July 02 2012 02:25 IamMagic wrote:
I thought i'd bring this up cause I find it somewhat ironic that the individual responsible for making these youtube videos LGImbasfuts actually harbors proven maphackers in his team knowing and having stated they maphack, here are some examples

http://drop.sc/154502
http://drop.sc/153694

Here is LGImbasfuts responding to these accusations by saying that he will ban Bolero from the clan, a few weeks later a name change happens and Bolero changes his name to Kanade

Leader stating they will ban Bolero from the clan : http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=326556

Now its not only a matter of ladder points being taken by this cheater but the fact is LG is playing Kanade in official clan war games for money, I talked to the leader of LG and he says he gave the account to someone else (The only thing he can really say) but why would anyone ever want to play on the account of a proven maphacker? they risk not only the possibility of getting banned for incidents that they may/or may not have done but also being blamed for all the maphacking incidents of the past since drop.sc and other major replay sites automatically update a name change

just find it fishy thats all, things dont make sense. myself as a player would never use the account of a proven cheater and I don't understand why anyone else would either


Well there's no reason to let a perfectly useable account go to waste, but at any rate, this can be easily solved if we get a recent replay of Kanade from a teamleague, and compare the hotkey signature to an older replay of Kanade.
StarcraftWonders
Profile Joined June 2012
United States59 Posts
July 01 2012 17:36 GMT
#1617
On July 02 2012 02:25 IamMagic wrote:
I thought i'd bring this up cause I find it somewhat ironic that the individual responsible for making these youtube videos LGImbasfuts actually harbors proven maphackers in his team knowing and having stated they maphack, here are some examples

http://drop.sc/154502
http://drop.sc/153694

Here is LGImbasfuts responding to these accusations by saying that he will ban Bolero from the clan, a few weeks later a name change happens and Bolero changes his name to Kanade

Leader stating they will ban Bolero from the clan : http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=326556

Now its not only a matter of ladder points being taken by this cheater but the fact is LG is playing Kanade in official clan war games for money, I talked to the leader of LG and he says he gave the account to someone else (The only thing he can really say) but why would anyone ever want to play on the account of a proven maphacker? they risk not only the possibility of getting banned for incidents that they may/or may not have done but also being blamed for all the maphacking incidents of the past since drop.sc and other major replay sites automatically update a name change

just find it fishy thats all, things dont make sense. myself as a player would never use the account of a proven cheater and I don't understand why anyone else would either



I thought this was kina fishy as well after i asked LGimbaASfuts about it. He also told me he gave the account to another player. So i went to Kanades matchhistory and asked a few players for his replays. Hotkeys don't match,apm, and Kanade does much more scouting. But i still don't udnerstand why he would give the known hacker impa's account to another player...
Stacraft Wonders
EzaLB
Profile Joined November 2010
United States38 Posts
July 01 2012 17:42 GMT
#1618
LGKanade = Chobitsu , Impa got kicked out of LG when they found out he was hacking....
EZ
IMBACoaching
Profile Joined October 2010
United States86 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-01 17:45:49
July 01 2012 17:44 GMT
#1619
I gave the account LGBolero to the player LGKanade. The player Bolero "aka impa" has not played on that account after i booted him off the team. It was a fresh account and didn't want it to go to waist. If you still believe that Impa plays on that account, ask him for some replays and check if hotkeys, apm , scouting paterns match up. I highly recomend you do research before you post something like this.
Savior of eSports
Caliber
Profile Joined August 2010
United States598 Posts
July 01 2012 18:24 GMT
#1620
any1 played DaWeed before?
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