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On June 29 2012 10:34 ZweiGaming wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2012 12:16 Doodsmack wrote:Found another GM hacker on the NA server. IMMvp, currently rank 186. Unfortunately all I have is a team game replay, and since there's no obvious fog of war peeking, this wouldn't be considered proof since it could be his teammates that are doing the hacking. However he clearly has very poor mechanics, yet is in GM, which alone is highly suspicious. His account was previously in silver and gold but was high master last season and GM this season. When I pointed out his poor mechanics to him after the game, he said "I was eating" (see below - classic far-fetched excuse used by a hacker who's been caught). I went through his match history and told everyone to report him. Unfortunately all his 1v1 ladder games are from a week ago and none of the people I PMed still had their replay. Hopefully some high level players will see this thread and post their replay if they play him. In the replay you will notice he clearly is waiting for the attacking that comes at ~9:30, and also is waiting for the drop that comes at ~16:50. http://www.sctemple.com/replay/260581/The funny part is that I curb stomped him and his team 1v3 after both my teammates left. It's at least heartening to know that most of these hackers are so fundamentally bad at the game that they can easily be caught. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/bu9Co.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Sjl5R.jpg) I cannot base my replay analysis on team games. It is suspect to jump from silver/gold to GM, but it could very well be account leveling, which is not the discussion in here. Let's not accuse people without according evidence please
Isn't this guy Beastyqt? I have seen him playing the exact same tag in hisSea account, but i'm not sure if he has one in the NA server too.
I think that i saw once he played whit that on NA but not definately sure. Dunno why would he play team games though.
Thats the Exact same nick that i have seen surely him playing on SEA server.
It would make sense, because he was in the states and is right now? when he trained at the razer house.
And if hes Beastyqt hes not cheating and he was propably eating :D And in that case you were just annoying prick to him.
I dont know why he would argue whit you though even though it would be irritating if you would accuse him something he isn't certainly not. But as said, he could be the tshingish khan as far as i know. I have just seen exact same nick in his hands.
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Jesus Blizzard
Played a second blatant hacker in a few days. I'm playing random against his Protoss. He puts down his first pylon at the choke in the nat ready to forge fast expand knowing I've got fucking zerg. Later in the game he goes for building canons in the upper ground on the 3rd without seeing at all if I have expanded there.
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Excuse me, but how the fuck is a person supposed to keep his motivation playing?
PS: Don't even mention my manner in the game. This is fucking disgusting
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Finland870 Posts
Pylon to nat works vs all mu's.
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And blind canons on the upper ground at the 3rd works against all races. No protoss have played against me with a pylon first at the choke in the nat when I'm random , sorry. I'm a high master protoss and your argument that building the first pylon at the nat is a valid build against all races is not true at all.
Just watch the game from his perspective. Blatant hacking at its finest.
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On June 28 2012 12:16 Doodsmack wrote:Found another GM hacker on the NA server. IMMvp, currently rank 186. Unfortunately all I have is a team game replay, and since there's no obvious fog of war peeking, this wouldn't be considered proof since it could be his teammates that are doing the hacking. However he clearly has very poor mechanics, yet is in GM, which alone is highly suspicious. His account was previously in silver and gold but was high master last season and GM this season. When I pointed out his poor mechanics to him after the game, he said "I was eating" (see below - classic far-fetched excuse used by a hacker who's been caught). I went through his match history and told everyone to report him. Unfortunately all his 1v1 ladder games are from a week ago and none of the people I PMed still had their replay. Hopefully some high level players will see this thread and post their replay if they play him. In the replay you will notice he clearly is waiting for the attacking that comes at ~9:30, and also is waiting for the drop that comes at ~16:50. http://www.sctemple.com/replay/260581/The funny part is that I curb stomped him and his team 1v3 after both my teammates left. It's at least heartening to know that most of these hackers are so fundamentally bad at the game that they can easily be caught.
This guy is not a hacker.
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On July 01 2012 06:33 MrBitter wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2012 12:16 Doodsmack wrote:Found another GM hacker on the NA server. IMMvp, currently rank 186. Unfortunately all I have is a team game replay, and since there's no obvious fog of war peeking, this wouldn't be considered proof since it could be his teammates that are doing the hacking. However he clearly has very poor mechanics, yet is in GM, which alone is highly suspicious. His account was previously in silver and gold but was high master last season and GM this season. When I pointed out his poor mechanics to him after the game, he said "I was eating" (see below - classic far-fetched excuse used by a hacker who's been caught). I went through his match history and told everyone to report him. Unfortunately all his 1v1 ladder games are from a week ago and none of the people I PMed still had their replay. Hopefully some high level players will see this thread and post their replay if they play him. In the replay you will notice he clearly is waiting for the attacking that comes at ~9:30, and also is waiting for the drop that comes at ~16:50. http://www.sctemple.com/replay/260581/The funny part is that I curb stomped him and his team 1v3 after both my teammates left. It's at least heartening to know that most of these hackers are so fundamentally bad at the game that they can easily be caught. This guy is not a hacker.
Thats what i tought ^^
And this BM guy was just being a dick.
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I have that account in EU and I didnt play 3+months on it.
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I have encountered 2 hackers in my last 25 games. God damn.
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On July 01 2012 05:18 Sepi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2012 10:34 ZweiGaming wrote:On June 28 2012 12:16 Doodsmack wrote:Found another GM hacker on the NA server. IMMvp, currently rank 186. Unfortunately all I have is a team game replay, and since there's no obvious fog of war peeking, this wouldn't be considered proof since it could be his teammates that are doing the hacking. However he clearly has very poor mechanics, yet is in GM, which alone is highly suspicious. His account was previously in silver and gold but was high master last season and GM this season. When I pointed out his poor mechanics to him after the game, he said "I was eating" (see below - classic far-fetched excuse used by a hacker who's been caught). I went through his match history and told everyone to report him. Unfortunately all his 1v1 ladder games are from a week ago and none of the people I PMed still had their replay. Hopefully some high level players will see this thread and post their replay if they play him. In the replay you will notice he clearly is waiting for the attacking that comes at ~9:30, and also is waiting for the drop that comes at ~16:50. http://www.sctemple.com/replay/260581/The funny part is that I curb stomped him and his team 1v3 after both my teammates left. It's at least heartening to know that most of these hackers are so fundamentally bad at the game that they can easily be caught. I cannot base my replay analysis on team games. It is suspect to jump from silver/gold to GM, but it could very well be account leveling, which is not the discussion in here. Let's not accuse people without according evidence please Isn't this guy Beastyqt? I have seen him playing the exact same tag in hisSea account, but i'm not sure if he has one in the NA server too. I think that i saw once he played whit that on NA but not definately sure. Dunno why would he play team games though. Thats the Exact same nick that i have seen surely him playing on SEA server. It would make sense, because he was in the states and is right now? when he trained at the razer house. And if hes Beastyqt hes not cheating and he was propably eating :D And in that case you were just annoying prick to him. I dont know why he would argue whit you though even though it would be irritating if you would accuse him something he isn't certainly not. But as said, he could be the tshingish khan as far as i know. I have just seen exact same nick in his hands.
Guess you didn't hear, people can make the same name just different identifier #.
Anyone can be anybody and just impersonate them, abuse, hack, stream cheat, etc.. in an attempt to harm ones image. Can't really say "thats the same exact nick" because there is no evidence unless you have the identifier or real id.
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On July 01 2012 09:41 FT.aCt)Sony wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 05:18 Sepi wrote:On June 29 2012 10:34 ZweiGaming wrote:On June 28 2012 12:16 Doodsmack wrote:Found another GM hacker on the NA server. IMMvp, currently rank 186. Unfortunately all I have is a team game replay, and since there's no obvious fog of war peeking, this wouldn't be considered proof since it could be his teammates that are doing the hacking. However he clearly has very poor mechanics, yet is in GM, which alone is highly suspicious. His account was previously in silver and gold but was high master last season and GM this season. When I pointed out his poor mechanics to him after the game, he said "I was eating" (see below - classic far-fetched excuse used by a hacker who's been caught). I went through his match history and told everyone to report him. Unfortunately all his 1v1 ladder games are from a week ago and none of the people I PMed still had their replay. Hopefully some high level players will see this thread and post their replay if they play him. In the replay you will notice he clearly is waiting for the attacking that comes at ~9:30, and also is waiting for the drop that comes at ~16:50. http://www.sctemple.com/replay/260581/The funny part is that I curb stomped him and his team 1v3 after both my teammates left. It's at least heartening to know that most of these hackers are so fundamentally bad at the game that they can easily be caught. I cannot base my replay analysis on team games. It is suspect to jump from silver/gold to GM, but it could very well be account leveling, which is not the discussion in here. Let's not accuse people without according evidence please Isn't this guy Beastyqt? I have seen him playing the exact same tag in hisSea account, but i'm not sure if he has one in the NA server too. I think that i saw once he played whit that on NA but not definately sure. Dunno why would he play team games though. Thats the Exact same nick that i have seen surely him playing on SEA server. It would make sense, because he was in the states and is right now? when he trained at the razer house. And if hes Beastyqt hes not cheating and he was propably eating :D And in that case you were just annoying prick to him. I dont know why he would argue whit you though even though it would be irritating if you would accuse him something he isn't certainly not. But as said, he could be the tshingish khan as far as i know. I have just seen exact same nick in his hands. Guess you didn't hear, people can make the same name just different identifier #. Anyone can be anybody and just impersonate them, abuse, hack, stream cheat, etc.. in an attempt to harm ones image. Can't really say "thats the same exact nick" because there is no evidence unless you have the identifier or real id.
Account Bnet id is stored in the replay. If a certain account has been confirmed to be a sure hacker, it can be identified with that id even after a name change. Please note that I am not talking about the character code.
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On July 01 2012 06:33 MrBitter wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2012 12:16 Doodsmack wrote:Found another GM hacker on the NA server. IMMvp, currently rank 186. Unfortunately all I have is a team game replay, and since there's no obvious fog of war peeking, this wouldn't be considered proof since it could be his teammates that are doing the hacking. However he clearly has very poor mechanics, yet is in GM, which alone is highly suspicious. His account was previously in silver and gold but was high master last season and GM this season. When I pointed out his poor mechanics to him after the game, he said "I was eating" (see below - classic far-fetched excuse used by a hacker who's been caught). I went through his match history and told everyone to report him. Unfortunately all his 1v1 ladder games are from a week ago and none of the people I PMed still had their replay. Hopefully some high level players will see this thread and post their replay if they play him. In the replay you will notice he clearly is waiting for the attacking that comes at ~9:30, and also is waiting for the drop that comes at ~16:50. http://www.sctemple.com/replay/260581/The funny part is that I curb stomped him and his team 1v3 after both my teammates left. It's at least heartening to know that most of these hackers are so fundamentally bad at the game that they can easily be caught. This guy is not a hacker.
Proove it, not because you're ''MISTER BITTER'' that we'll take any shit you throw at us. Get over yourself.
User was warned for being a jerk
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I'd like to say something.
This thread is helpful.
but its spawned a load of shit on ladder.
Everytime I beat someone I get reported for hacking.(or so they say)
Like seriously people, please take a loss like a loss.
Please review your replay atleast 5x before making accusations.
Its getting annoying
T_T
~fellow ladder'er
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On July 01 2012 14:40 Phye wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 06:33 MrBitter wrote:On June 28 2012 12:16 Doodsmack wrote:Found another GM hacker on the NA server. IMMvp, currently rank 186. Unfortunately all I have is a team game replay, and since there's no obvious fog of war peeking, this wouldn't be considered proof since it could be his teammates that are doing the hacking. However he clearly has very poor mechanics, yet is in GM, which alone is highly suspicious. His account was previously in silver and gold but was high master last season and GM this season. When I pointed out his poor mechanics to him after the game, he said "I was eating" (see below - classic far-fetched excuse used by a hacker who's been caught). I went through his match history and told everyone to report him. Unfortunately all his 1v1 ladder games are from a week ago and none of the people I PMed still had their replay. Hopefully some high level players will see this thread and post their replay if they play him. In the replay you will notice he clearly is waiting for the attacking that comes at ~9:30, and also is waiting for the drop that comes at ~16:50. http://www.sctemple.com/replay/260581/The funny part is that I curb stomped him and his team 1v3 after both my teammates left. It's at least heartening to know that most of these hackers are so fundamentally bad at the game that they can easily be caught. This guy is not a hacker. Proove it, not because you're ''MISTER BITTER'' that we'll take any shit you throw at us. Get over yourself.
you can't prove something doesn't exist, you can however prove something that exists
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On July 01 2012 05:59 OutOfMyMind_pro wrote:Jesus Blizzard Played a second blatant hacker in a few days. I'm playing random against his Protoss. He puts down his first pylon at the choke in the nat ready to forge fast expand knowing I've got fucking zerg. Later in the game he goes for building canons in the upper ground on the 3rd without seeing at all if I have expanded there. REPLAY LINKExcuse me, but how the fuck is a person supposed to keep his motivation playing? PS: Don't even mention my manner in the game. This is fucking disgusting
Maybe you should draw your motivation from something other than the prospect of winning and stop taking losses like this so personally?
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On July 01 2012 14:57 branflakes14 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 05:59 OutOfMyMind_pro wrote:Jesus Blizzard Played a second blatant hacker in a few days. I'm playing random against his Protoss. He puts down his first pylon at the choke in the nat ready to forge fast expand knowing I've got fucking zerg. Later in the game he goes for building canons in the upper ground on the 3rd without seeing at all if I have expanded there. REPLAY LINKExcuse me, but how the fuck is a person supposed to keep his motivation playing? PS: Don't even mention my manner in the game. This is fucking disgusting Maybe you should draw your motivation from something other than the prospect of winning and stop taking losses like this so personally?
No offence but its possible to put it down blindly.
The metagame is to take a 3rd quick.
So this isnt really out of the ordinary.
people need to chill
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Yeah the IMMvp guy was just getting hints
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On July 01 2012 14:59 IOvEggY wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 14:57 branflakes14 wrote:On July 01 2012 05:59 OutOfMyMind_pro wrote:Jesus Blizzard Played a second blatant hacker in a few days. I'm playing random against his Protoss. He puts down his first pylon at the choke in the nat ready to forge fast expand knowing I've got fucking zerg. Later in the game he goes for building canons in the upper ground on the 3rd without seeing at all if I have expanded there. REPLAY LINKExcuse me, but how the fuck is a person supposed to keep his motivation playing? PS: Don't even mention my manner in the game. This is fucking disgusting Maybe you should draw your motivation from something other than the prospect of winning and stop taking losses like this so personally? No offence but its possible to put it down blindly. The metagame is to take a 3rd quick. So this isnt really out of the ordinary. people need to chill
The blind pylon at the nat seems reasonable against random, as he even types he's just gonna guess. However, the blind dbl pylon dbl cannon just as zerg starts his 3rd without scouting it at all is pretty blatant. I mean he doesnt even scout the 3rd, just blind builds 2 pylons and 2 cannons on high ground just as the zerg starts to make it. Then goes down the ramp already queued to build another cannon on the low ground while still not scouting it. No one does that =\
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Ok so I dont think this guy hacked but I played Datch in a team game on EU and he was not GM level. I have played (and sometimes beaten) pros before but I doubt you can be GM with 56 EAPM in your main race.
Was just thinking that the account was probably leveled and possibly leveled by a hacker, so if anyone have played this guy account maybe you could check the replays.
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So how many times have you guys opened with a pylon first at the nat against random? I've got a couple of hundred games with random and no Protoss have ever gone with a pylon first at the nat. And you wanna know why? Because they know I could be 6pooling/proxy raxing/proxy gating and to build your pylon there is a one hundred procent suicide against t/p and luck based if you scout the zerg early.
So you say he said that he is just gonna "guess"? Do you wanna know who guesses blindly like that every game? Hackers.
He invested a thousand minerals on the upper ground at the 3rd to counter my 3rd base without ever seeing it, because of the metagame? What? Who said I play by the "metagame"? Do you guys invest a thousand minerals in turrets without seeing any mutalisk? How does that work really? If I was doing a 2base all in how was he supposed to stop it with investing so much in canons at the 3rd? Oh wait he probably knew I was not doing that.
Nobody fucking plays like that. Nobody. He does two super obvious moves that flat out expose him as a hacker. Just watch the game from his perspective and then come here,put your arm on your chest and tell me truth.
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On June 30 2012 04:51 LgNKane wrote:http://drop.sc/209937vs isuruscham, pretty suspicious of his blind countering my spire without scouting it, his 9 pool into making no lings, etc. not completely sure but its definitely suspect.
I have to say that there were 2 moments in this game that were suspect to me. First thing was the blind spine crawler in his base after he 9 pools. This is completely non standard and this is never done unless you know an early cheesy attack is coming, which he shouldnt have known about according to his vision. He does spot your drone with his 3rd overlord as it is leaving his base, but at that point his spine crawler was already being built before spotting this drone.
Now the counter to the spire is less suspect to me, as he did see you had 4 gas taken. It was convenient timing to make the spores/hydras while you build mutas, but this could just be good timing.
The 2nd shady moment for me is towards the end of the game when you are looking to push his 3rd. Right when you start to morph in approx 15 blings to attack with your muta/ling, he spreads out all his units. This is also non conclusive evidence, but it's just really shady. The strongest evidence for me is the blind defensive spine crawler. It just baffles me why you would do this unless you knew it was coming.
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