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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.

Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence.
TylerThaCreator
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States906 Posts
June 28 2012 08:31 GMT
#1561
On June 28 2012 17:24 Nyast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 13:38 Doodsmack wrote:
It's at least worth it to flag his name for review of further replays because the poor mechanics combined with his account going from silver/gold to GM is highly suspicious. He has silver/gold level mechanics in the replay. Coincedence? Any GM player whose account jumped leagues dramatically between seasons and whose replays show poor mechanics is suspect.


I hate to point the obvious, but somebody who has silver/gold level mechanics can't get into GM even with a maphack...


you'd be surprised
aka SethN
AmericanUmlaut
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2576 Posts
June 28 2012 08:38 GMT
#1562
On June 28 2012 17:31 TylerThaCreator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 17:24 Nyast wrote:
On June 28 2012 13:38 Doodsmack wrote:
It's at least worth it to flag his name for review of further replays because the poor mechanics combined with his account going from silver/gold to GM is highly suspicious. He has silver/gold level mechanics in the replay. Coincedence? Any GM player whose account jumped leagues dramatically between seasons and whose replays show poor mechanics is suspect.


I hate to point the obvious, but somebody who has silver/gold level mechanics can't get into GM even with a maphack...


you'd be surprised

Yes. We'd all be very surprised if you could get into GM with a massive army and economic disadvantage at every point in the game.
The frumious Bandersnatch
oGoZenob
Profile Joined December 2011
France1503 Posts
June 28 2012 09:09 GMT
#1563
On June 28 2012 17:24 Nyast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 13:38 Doodsmack wrote:
It's at least worth it to flag his name for review of further replays because the poor mechanics combined with his account going from silver/gold to GM is highly suspicious. He has silver/gold level mechanics in the replay. Coincedence? Any GM player whose account jumped leagues dramatically between seasons and whose replays show poor mechanics is suspect.


I hate to point the obvious, but somebody who has silver/gold level mechanics can't get into GM even with a maphack...

nobody thinks he got his account from another person, who was silver/gold ?
I like starcraft
iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-28 09:21:09
June 28 2012 09:20 GMT
#1564
there is no way to get to GM as silver/gold with maphack, 100% not doable

maybe with some other hacks that auto micro or builds for you
hellokittySC2
Profile Joined September 2009
United States395 Posts
June 28 2012 09:45 GMT
#1565
On June 28 2012 18:09 oGoZenob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 17:24 Nyast wrote:
On June 28 2012 13:38 Doodsmack wrote:
It's at least worth it to flag his name for review of further replays because the poor mechanics combined with his account going from silver/gold to GM is highly suspicious. He has silver/gold level mechanics in the replay. Coincedence? Any GM player whose account jumped leagues dramatically between seasons and whose replays show poor mechanics is suspect.


I hate to point the obvious, but somebody who has silver/gold level mechanics can't get into GM even with a maphack...

nobody thinks he got his account from another person, who was silver/gold ?

prob had some korean pro play on it for $$ into gm and shows off.
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zmansman17
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2567 Posts
June 28 2012 15:31 GMT
#1566
On June 28 2012 17:38 AmericanUmlaut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 17:31 TylerThaCreator wrote:
On June 28 2012 17:24 Nyast wrote:
On June 28 2012 13:38 Doodsmack wrote:
It's at least worth it to flag his name for review of further replays because the poor mechanics combined with his account going from silver/gold to GM is highly suspicious. He has silver/gold level mechanics in the replay. Coincedence? Any GM player whose account jumped leagues dramatically between seasons and whose replays show poor mechanics is suspect.


I hate to point the obvious, but somebody who has silver/gold level mechanics can't get into GM even with a maphack...


you'd be surprised

Yes. We'd all be very surprised if you could get into GM with a massive army and economic disadvantage at every point in the game.


haha I enjoyed this post. Thank you. Honestly though, there's no way a silver/gold player could make it into GM even with a maphack. Even simple strategies like 2 gate and cannon rushing require nuances like doubling probes on the mineral line to maximize income, as well as enough very solid micro
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ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13389 Posts
June 28 2012 16:25 GMT
#1567
On June 29 2012 00:31 zmansman17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 17:38 AmericanUmlaut wrote:
On June 28 2012 17:31 TylerThaCreator wrote:
On June 28 2012 17:24 Nyast wrote:
On June 28 2012 13:38 Doodsmack wrote:
It's at least worth it to flag his name for review of further replays because the poor mechanics combined with his account going from silver/gold to GM is highly suspicious. He has silver/gold level mechanics in the replay. Coincedence? Any GM player whose account jumped leagues dramatically between seasons and whose replays show poor mechanics is suspect.


I hate to point the obvious, but somebody who has silver/gold level mechanics can't get into GM even with a maphack...


you'd be surprised

Yes. We'd all be very surprised if you could get into GM with a massive army and economic disadvantage at every point in the game.


haha I enjoyed this post. Thank you. Honestly though, there's no way a silver/gold player could make it into GM even with a maphack. Even simple strategies like 2 gate and cannon rushing require nuances like doubling probes on the mineral line to maximize income, as well as enough very solid micro


The thing is the hack includes automatic worker making. So all they need to do is make units. Their only job is to make units and react properly. If they learn when to build a twilight and when to chrono they only 40 apm. A 2 base all in is easy enough as it is but with a hack it makes it stupid simple. Dont mess up the food timing on the Twilight and the attack upgrades and you get a free madly good blink stalker.

While silver/gold is a stretch, any plat player or diamond player could easily make things at the right time if they dont need to worry about worker production to be honest.
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
Nyarly
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1030 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-29 04:45:11
June 28 2012 16:58 GMT
#1568
I saw that on EU GM ladder the other day :
http://i.imgur.com/Xk3I0.jpg
I am absolutely not saying he's a maphacker. I haven't play the guy nor did i watch any replay from him.
It can be a traded or shared account or it can be someone that really improved since the release (getting promoted every season) but it's still weird
This guy must be really proud of himself, and he should really be if this is legit.
ZweiGaming
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada348 Posts
June 29 2012 01:34 GMT
#1569
On June 28 2012 12:16 Doodsmack wrote:
Found another GM hacker on the NA server. IMMvp, currently rank 186. Unfortunately all I have is a team game replay, and since there's no obvious fog of war peeking, this wouldn't be considered proof since it could be his teammates that are doing the hacking. However he clearly has very poor mechanics, yet is in GM, which alone is highly suspicious. His account was previously in silver and gold but was high master last season and GM this season. When I pointed out his poor mechanics to him after the game, he said "I was eating" (see below - classic far-fetched excuse used by a hacker who's been caught). I went through his match history and told everyone to report him. Unfortunately all his 1v1 ladder games are from a week ago and none of the people I PMed still had their replay. Hopefully some high level players will see this thread and post their replay if they play him.

In the replay you will notice he clearly is waiting for the attacking that comes at ~9:30, and also is waiting for the drop that comes at ~16:50.

http://www.sctemple.com/replay/260581/

The funny part is that I curb stomped him and his team 1v3 after both my teammates left. It's at least heartening to know that most of these hackers are so fundamentally bad at the game that they can easily be caught.

[image loading]

[image loading]


I cannot base my replay analysis on team games. It is suspect to jump from silver/gold to GM, but it could very well be account leveling, which is not the discussion in here. Let's not accuse people without according evidence please
mYiKane
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1772 Posts
June 29 2012 19:51 GMT
#1570
http://drop.sc/209937

vs isuruscham, pretty suspicious of his blind countering my spire without scouting it, his 9 pool into making no lings, etc.

not completely sure but its definitely suspect.
WniO
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2706 Posts
June 29 2012 20:56 GMT
#1571
On June 28 2012 18:20 iky43210 wrote:
there is no way to get to GM as silver/gold with maphack, 100% not doable

maybe with some other hacks that auto micro or builds for you

id agree with silver/gold but diamonds could easily do it. cheese/anti cheese is all about scouting and with maphax or mini-map, i wouldn't be surprised with diamonds getting into gm. proxy raxs/ gateways are so hard to stop if they know where you are on 4 player maps.
dakalro
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania525 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-29 21:30:58
June 29 2012 21:28 GMT
#1572
On June 30 2012 05:56 WniO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 18:20 iky43210 wrote:
there is no way to get to GM as silver/gold with maphack, 100% not doable

maybe with some other hacks that auto micro or builds for you

id agree with silver/gold but diamonds could easily do it. cheese/anti cheese is all about scouting and with maphax or mini-map, i wouldn't be surprised with diamonds getting into gm. proxy raxs/ gateways are so hard to stop if they know where you are on 4 player maps.


You can't get into GM with maphacks as silver or gold. I tested some maphacks on LAN SC1 games like 13y ago and it made me play worse, trying to not be obvious, being too confident etc. I was getting slowed more than helped with it. Maybe up to diamond/masters but if you play someone that can actually macro you're still gonna get owned - had some pretty decent players at my HS. Needless to say our friend had a good laugh at our expense when we told him we got our asses handed to us with hacks.

Highest I ever got in SC2 was plat and I think I played SC1 a lot better, I seem unable to remember a build nowadays past 15 supply, prefer to just wing it and have fun.
SilSol
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden2744 Posts
June 29 2012 21:41 GMT
#1573
On June 29 2012 10:34 ZweiGaming wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 12:16 Doodsmack wrote:
Found another GM hacker on the NA server. IMMvp, currently rank 186. Unfortunately all I have is a team game replay, and since there's no obvious fog of war peeking, this wouldn't be considered proof since it could be his teammates that are doing the hacking. However he clearly has very poor mechanics, yet is in GM, which alone is highly suspicious. His account was previously in silver and gold but was high master last season and GM this season. When I pointed out his poor mechanics to him after the game, he said "I was eating" (see below - classic far-fetched excuse used by a hacker who's been caught). I went through his match history and told everyone to report him. Unfortunately all his 1v1 ladder games are from a week ago and none of the people I PMed still had their replay. Hopefully some high level players will see this thread and post their replay if they play him.

In the replay you will notice he clearly is waiting for the attacking that comes at ~9:30, and also is waiting for the drop that comes at ~16:50.

http://www.sctemple.com/replay/260581/

The funny part is that I curb stomped him and his team 1v3 after both my teammates left. It's at least heartening to know that most of these hackers are so fundamentally bad at the game that they can easily be caught.

[image loading]

[image loading]


I cannot base my replay analysis on team games. It is suspect to jump from silver/gold to GM, but it could very well be account leveling, which is not the discussion in here. Let's not accuse people without according evidence please


Wow i've played that douche too and he was just a dick all the time.
http://fragbite.se/user/117868/silsol since 2006 http://www.reddit.com/u/silsol77
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
June 29 2012 21:54 GMT
#1574
At least the drophacks are gone...

RIP pillage
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
cydial
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States750 Posts
June 29 2012 22:09 GMT
#1575
I'd imagine to not get caught maphacking you would just have the production tab and mini map hacks on... I mean seriously? Is there anything else you really need to know to win the game besides tech path and enemy army position?
SilSol
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden2744 Posts
June 29 2012 22:19 GMT
#1576
On June 30 2012 06:54 101toss wrote:
At least the drophacks are gone...

RIP pillage


are you sure? cause i've been dropped a few times lately.
http://fragbite.se/user/117868/silsol since 2006 http://www.reddit.com/u/silsol77
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13389 Posts
June 29 2012 23:48 GMT
#1577
On June 30 2012 07:19 SilSol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2012 06:54 101toss wrote:
At least the drophacks are gone...

RIP pillage


are you sure? cause i've been dropped a few times lately.


I highly doubt it was a drop hack if those were still around they would be the most easily obvious things out there. Sometimes it really is just BNET being stupid.
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
flyingkebab_
Profile Joined April 2012
2 Posts
June 30 2012 14:41 GMT
#1578
hey new maphack user, its so obvious... just watch the first 3 min
http://replayfu.com/r/09GF5s

master with new account (70win)

BadBinky
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Finland649 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-30 19:31:58
June 30 2012 19:30 GMT
#1579
I've reported this guy to Blizzard around a half year ago and today I ran into him on ladder again. 100% proof each time. He doesn't try or is too stupid to hide it.

ESGSorc.203 @ EU.
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2555127/1/ESGSorc/

http://drop.sc/210336
It's more important to be tough than to have any fun.
branflakes14
Profile Joined July 2010
2082 Posts
June 30 2012 19:51 GMT
#1580
On June 28 2012 17:38 AmericanUmlaut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 17:31 TylerThaCreator wrote:
On June 28 2012 17:24 Nyast wrote:
On June 28 2012 13:38 Doodsmack wrote:
It's at least worth it to flag his name for review of further replays because the poor mechanics combined with his account going from silver/gold to GM is highly suspicious. He has silver/gold level mechanics in the replay. Coincedence? Any GM player whose account jumped leagues dramatically between seasons and whose replays show poor mechanics is suspect.


I hate to point the obvious, but somebody who has silver/gold level mechanics can't get into GM even with a maphack...


you'd be surprised

Yes. We'd all be very surprised if you could get into GM with a massive army and economic disadvantage at every point in the game.


Perfect cannon rushes and 6pools every game are dangerous enough to get you pretty far.
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