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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.

Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence.
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
May 28 2012 10:52 GMT
#121
Blizzard needs to improve their Warden for HotS =/
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hellokittySC2
Profile Joined September 2009
United States395 Posts
May 28 2012 10:53 GMT
#122
On May 28 2012 19:45 NeMeSiS3 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 19:36 Orracle wrote:
On May 28 2012 19:28 NeMeSiS3 wrote:
I always take "proof" with a grain of salt, seeing as other than visual evidence, nothing else is present. Anywho, if they hack, hope they're banned but I won't raise my pitchfork with the mob just yet.


Not sure what other evidence you'd want. What other proof is there to spot a maphack? Audio?


Since BW I've seen my share of funky games where someone just knows what the other player is doing, sees everything coming and 100% was not hacking (playing chaos on iccup), so seeing this here and there isn't surprising.

there are vods of him fucking doing it...
are you blind?
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khazgore
Profile Joined November 2010
Norway104 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-28 10:55:55
May 28 2012 10:54 GMT
#123
Lol watched the stream its embarrassing that blizzard let something like this pass. i mean how hard can it be to make a hackproof system for a company as big as blizzard?

I never imagined hacks gave such a advantage. not only can he look at his opponents base but he also have the production tab for both his and his opponent. And a ingame worker counter and probably more. i am high master now and could prolly make top gm with a hack like this.

I actually blame blizzard more for not fixing stuff like this than the players using it.People are stupid..
Sergio1992
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Italy522 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-28 10:56:36
May 28 2012 10:56 GMT
#124
I said much time ago that maphacks were spreading and people said I was lieing and I was a fucking douchebag not believing in Blizzard.
Pantythief
Profile Joined February 2012
Denmark657 Posts
May 28 2012 10:56 GMT
#125
On May 28 2012 19:52 Gladiator333 wrote:
Blizzard needs to improve their Warden for HotS =/


You missed the point -- no matter how many times Blizzard is improving Warden it won't help. In fact, Warden is working perfectly fine, but the way hacks are developed today is like a completely different language to Warden that it cannot understand or recognize. Most hacks today do not even come close to StarCraft 2 -- they're external, meaning that the software detects the executable file through memory and creates a virtual overlay across your screen to give you the extra "menu" you want, much like how hacks in FPS games work. Warden cannot detect this, because there's literally nothing for it to detect. Blizzard would have to scan this memory in order to catch hackers on-the-go but that'd be a breach on the law of privacy.
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Broodwurst
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1586 Posts
May 28 2012 10:57 GMT
#126
On May 28 2012 19:54 khazgore wrote:
Lol watched the stream its embarrassing that blizzard let something like this pass. i mean how hard can it be to make a hackproof system for a company as big as blizzard?


there's no such thing as hackproof
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AlphaWhale
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia328 Posts
May 28 2012 10:57 GMT
#127
On May 28 2012 13:27 Insane wrote:
It's pretty shameful how the Blizzard system in SC2 prevents other ladders, while not even patrolling their own. At least in BW, although they gave up on patrolling the ladder it didn't particularly matter because other people created their own ladders and patrolled them, even creating anti-hack programs to be run...
Now we don't really have that option, so we're stuck with the incredibly slow/ineffective Blizzard anti-hack methods.


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Junichi
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1056 Posts
May 28 2012 11:01 GMT
#128
The guy streams his play while maphacking... Oh boy... :D That has to be one of the stupidest things I've ever seen.

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arioch
Profile Joined May 2010
England403 Posts
May 28 2012 11:08 GMT
#129
My god... he is so bad as well...

I cannot believe that he streams himself hacking...
VoO
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany278 Posts
May 28 2012 11:09 GMT
#130
Half the Master league on EU is maphacking. Nothing you can do about it.
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Orracle
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States314 Posts
May 28 2012 11:16 GMT
#131
On May 28 2012 19:45 NeMeSiS3 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 19:36 Orracle wrote:
On May 28 2012 19:28 NeMeSiS3 wrote:
I always take "proof" with a grain of salt, seeing as other than visual evidence, nothing else is present. Anywho, if they hack, hope they're banned but I won't raise my pitchfork with the mob just yet.


Not sure what other evidence you'd want. What other proof is there to spot a maphack? Audio?


Since BW I've seen my share of funky games where someone just knows what the other player is doing, sees everything coming and 100% was not hacking (playing chaos on iccup), so seeing this here and there isn't surprising.


You understand if you go to like page 4, this guy's stream is linked, which shows him personally maphacking while streaming?
Mentalizor
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1596 Posts
May 28 2012 11:19 GMT
#132
On May 28 2012 20:09 VoO wrote:
Half the Master league on EU is maphacking. Nothing you can do about it.


Not true. Why would you say this?

Do you have any replays to back this up? Half the master league players are a huuuuge portion of players. I've played like 1500 1v1's in master league and I've only ever played 3-4 maphackers.

This is really not a huge issue on EU
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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
May 28 2012 11:22 GMT
#133
On May 28 2012 20:19 Mentalizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 20:09 VoO wrote:
Half the Master league on EU is maphacking. Nothing you can do about it.


Not true. Why would you say this?

Do you have any replays to back this up? Half the master league players are a huuuuge portion of players. I've played like 1500 1v1's in master league and I've only ever played 3-4 maphackers.

This is really not a huge issue on EU


You've discovered 3-4 maphackers.

There might be enough smart ones who don't make obvious moves, scout normally and just use the minimap to gain positioning advantages and bust hidden expos, or getting perfect runby/drop timings.
brolaf
Profile Joined May 2012
291 Posts
May 28 2012 11:24 GMT
#134
On May 28 2012 19:57 Broodwurst wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 19:54 khazgore wrote:
Lol watched the stream its embarrassing that blizzard let something like this pass. i mean how hard can it be to make a hackproof system for a company as big as blizzard?


there's no such thing as hackproof

yeah its hard for p2p style games like starcraft but if you encrypt all communitcation then its doable.
B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
May 28 2012 11:24 GMT
#135
On May 28 2012 13:33 Pinna wrote:
I feel like that blizzard really doesn't give a fu*k about all the hackers in StarCraft 2. For how many months did the RatZ dude (Can't rembember his name) go on until he was finally banned, banning almost-innocent destiny at the same time?
The report-function in game, I 100% believe that they don't even monitor that. You can spam the report, write tons of shit on those, and still nothing happens.

StarCraft 2 doesn't even have it's own gamemasters, and some of the gamemasters have no idea about starcraft.. (tickets)

Personally, I have gotten the feeling that Blizzard doesn't give a shit about anything, except if it can get them money. Much money.

What did you expect when you hit the report button? An immediate response saying: "Forgive us for displeasing you master! What would you have us do?" or something? It's probably just that if a certain player gets reported for the same thing over and over again that they start investigating him. And I'm glad they do it that way because there are probably a whole lot of frustrated fucks out there who falsely report you for hacking or harassment because they lost.
Akriloth
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Turkey18 Posts
May 28 2012 11:27 GMT
#136
It is sad that these stuff happen in SC2 :/ i remember getting 6 pooled by a zerg at a 4 player map when i was in diamond(no scout at all)...
If i lose, it's ok. Just know that i learn more with my mistakes.
-ForeverAlone-
Profile Joined June 2011
274 Posts
May 28 2012 11:29 GMT
#137
On May 28 2012 20:24 brolaf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 19:57 Broodwurst wrote:
On May 28 2012 19:54 khazgore wrote:
Lol watched the stream its embarrassing that blizzard let something like this pass. i mean how hard can it be to make a hackproof system for a company as big as blizzard?


there's no such thing as hackproof

yeah its hard for p2p style games like starcraft but if you encrypt all communitcation then its doable.

What? That doesn't even make any sense. Why are you spurting off things you clearly don't understand. rofl

1. I'd wager the communication between Blizzard's servers and clients is already encrypted to a degree.
2. Client side hacking has nothing to do with the blizzard-client connection... it's all done locally.
3. If you're saying the data in memory should be encrypted so it can't easily be "understood", that's a different story and as I'm not sure... I won't invent anything.
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CruelZeratul
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany4588 Posts
May 28 2012 11:40 GMT
#138
Blizzard should hire some "admins", Master/GM players who have the right to ban people/directly contact people who are able to do so. I assume this wouldn't be to costly.
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
May 28 2012 11:40 GMT
#139
Seeing this again and again makes me wonder how many SMART map hackers are really out there...I mean, the percentage of those to be stupid enough to make it obvious that they are hacking has to be rather small, no? You don't have to click into the fog of war at all, it's already a ridiculous advantage to see your opponent's movements on the minimap constantly. Let alone the production tab.

And let's be honest, we all play against people with very bad micro/macro but crazy "gamesense" every now and then...
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KvltMan
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sweden1609 Posts
May 28 2012 11:41 GMT
#140
Jesus Christ, he's even sniping pros with this shit on stream. (Saw IdrA in his friends-list)
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