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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.

Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence.
Silvertine
Profile Joined February 2012
United States509 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-28 08:56:54
May 28 2012 08:31 GMT
#101
It seems like there are plenty of hackers in GM/high master. I constantly play people with terrible micro and decision making but who possess Code S level game sense. I know of at least 20(perhaps not this season but in recent seasons) who have been completely confirmed through replays or admittance/streaming.

About the stream: Is it just me or is the way he talks really irritating? Somehow it's the most off-putting speech I've ever heard.

On May 28 2012 16:55 darkness wrote:
Btw, how come does anyone in GM lose to this guy? Can't you simply outmacro him with standard play?

Don't underestimate what a massive advantage a map hack is.
phiinix
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1169 Posts
May 28 2012 08:38 GMT
#102
I wonder.. if you MH, can you hit cloaked units without detection?
Mentalizor
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1596 Posts
May 28 2012 08:39 GMT
#103
On May 28 2012 13:16 Chargelot wrote:
iNcontroL showed us his extremely obvious hacking in some replays on stream. It was stupidly easy to see.


Yeah, he did that really well actually.

I think this problem is more common on the NA servers. I hope Blizzard will fix this nontheless. But remember they can only act if we help by sending hard evidence.

Good initiative
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Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-28 08:45:16
May 28 2012 08:45 GMT
#104
On May 28 2012 17:38 phiinix wrote:
I wonder.. if you MH, can you hit cloaked units without detection?


No. not with a maphack at least, thats hacking the games fundamentals, something different altogether
Useless wet fish.
NexCa
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany954 Posts
May 28 2012 08:51 GMT
#105
I STILL don't get the reason why ppl are using maphacks, i mean, if you want to improve, maphacks doesn't help (obviously)...

It's not even fun to play with maphacks, since you want a fair and even game, where only skill matters and you try hard to win.

Anyone can explain to me why some ppl hack ?
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jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
May 28 2012 08:54 GMT
#106
On May 28 2012 17:51 NexCa wrote:
I STILL don't get the reason why ppl are using maphacks, i mean, if you want to improve, maphacks doesn't help (obviously)...

It's not even fun to play with maphacks, since you want a fair and even game, where only skill matters and you try hard to win.

Anyone can explain to me why some ppl hack ?

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HaiFiSCH26
Profile Joined November 2011
Bulgaria91 Posts
May 28 2012 08:58 GMT
#107
Ahaha he even has a production tab ingame why would he ever peak in Fog..this is just stupid.
Haze.884
Profile Joined July 2011
New Zealand192 Posts
May 28 2012 09:17 GMT
#108
Man, I wish hackers mothers would give them some proper attention so they dont have to seek it online.
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IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
May 28 2012 09:25 GMT
#109
TBH it's extremely hard to catch an experienced map hacker in sc2, everything can be easily dismissed as good play if it's done correctly.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
-Kyo-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan1927 Posts
May 28 2012 09:40 GMT
#110
On May 28 2012 18:25 IshinShishi wrote:
TBH it's extremely hard to catch an experienced map hacker in sc2, everything can be easily dismissed as good play if it's done correctly.

Unless he streams it. I mean, of course he'd be banned then right?
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KoBlades
Profile Joined April 2011
Austria248 Posts
May 28 2012 09:48 GMT
#111
On May 28 2012 18:40 l_Kyo_l wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 18:25 IshinShishi wrote:
TBH it's extremely hard to catch an experienced map hacker in sc2, everything can be easily dismissed as good play if it's done correctly.

Unless he streams it. I mean, of course he'd be banned then right?


Why would you do that? haha that would be kind of Borderline-Syndrom^^
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Frauk
Profile Joined January 2010
Norway36 Posts
May 28 2012 09:49 GMT
#112
Ban those fucking cheaters
kAelle_sc
Profile Joined April 2011
287 Posts
May 28 2012 09:51 GMT
#113
is blizzard as active in banning maphackers in sc2 like the hackers in wow?
It's all about the journey, not the outcome.
Orracle
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States314 Posts
May 28 2012 09:58 GMT
#114
Shareholders come first.
The time and money to implement antihack programs, or actually investigate thoroughly into replays, cuts into their bottom line. I don't condone hacking, and I despise Blizzard for being this lenient, but it's the world of business. If someone hacks, it's irrelevant to them. Customers have paid for their account, and extreme displeasure from them is irrelevant to Blizzard after they have their money. Compared to WOW, people paid a monthly subscription. When I played WOW, admins were around constantly. If you have hackers running rampant in WOW like they do in SC2, I think people would be canceling subscriptions very quickly.

Exact reason I will not be purchasing a Blizzard product, including D3. They have put customer satisfaction on the very bottom of their priorities with extreme piracy measures, lack of features as well as moderation.
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9016 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-28 10:32:36
May 28 2012 10:22 GMT
#115
Haha I played this guy last night and he was so blatantly hacking it was a joke. He has a lot of games too...

Probe was sent directly to my base before pylon on tal darim. Then he's perfectly ready for banshee which was the most suspicious thing. I even msgd him after game to which he said my play was "so obvious"

Omfg just finished reading the thread, sick vods, if I were that awful I'd probably hack too.
NeMeSiS3
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Canada2972 Posts
May 28 2012 10:28 GMT
#116
I always take "proof" with a grain of salt, seeing as other than visual evidence, nothing else is present. Anywho, if they hack, hope they're banned but I won't raise my pitchfork with the mob just yet.
FoTG fighting!
Orracle
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States314 Posts
May 28 2012 10:36 GMT
#117
On May 28 2012 19:28 NeMeSiS3 wrote:
I always take "proof" with a grain of salt, seeing as other than visual evidence, nothing else is present. Anywho, if they hack, hope they're banned but I won't raise my pitchfork with the mob just yet.


Not sure what other evidence you'd want. What other proof is there to spot a maphack? Audio?
algorithm0r
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada486 Posts
May 28 2012 10:39 GMT
#118
One season I took my ladder points to this guy and offered to trade them for honor and a future with a hot wife and many children. He said ladder points are for noobs. Then he sold me a map hacker.

kekekekekeke
Pantythief
Profile Joined February 2012
Denmark657 Posts
May 28 2012 10:44 GMT
#119
On May 28 2012 13:28 iNcontroL wrote:
impa known hacker.. but there are many more I feel >_< Need blizz to do something about this. Perm ban accounts and actively go after em


They already do permaban accounts for hacking. Problem is, the hacking community is stronger than ever and not only Blizzard but many companies would have to turn rogue on the law in order to effectively search for hackers across Battle.net. The methods hackers use to keep themselves undetected are really, really solid.

I've heard that scanning memory is one way for Blizzard to spot hacks that are not injected into the executable file, but that's a breach of privacy and thus, is illegal.
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NeMeSiS3
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Canada2972 Posts
May 28 2012 10:45 GMT
#120
On May 28 2012 19:36 Orracle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 19:28 NeMeSiS3 wrote:
I always take "proof" with a grain of salt, seeing as other than visual evidence, nothing else is present. Anywho, if they hack, hope they're banned but I won't raise my pitchfork with the mob just yet.


Not sure what other evidence you'd want. What other proof is there to spot a maphack? Audio?


Since BW I've seen my share of funky games where someone just knows what the other player is doing, sees everything coming and 100% was not hacking (playing chaos on iccup), so seeing this here and there isn't surprising.
FoTG fighting!
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