• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 13:10
CEST 19:10
KST 02:10
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon9[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Ascent10Maestros of the Game: Week 1/Play-in Preview12[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt2: Take-Off7[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt1: Runway13
Community News
SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia7Weekly Cups (Sept 1-7): MaxPax rebounds & Clem saga continues24LiuLi Cup - September 2025 Tournaments3Weekly Cups (August 25-31): Clem's Last Straw?39Weekly Cups (Aug 18-24): herO dethrones MaxPax6
StarCraft 2
General
#1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Weekly Cups (Sept 1-7): MaxPax rebounds & Clem saga continues Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon What happened to Singapore/Brazil servers?
Tourneys
RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia LANified! 37: Groundswell, BYOC LAN, Nov 28-30 2025 LiuLi Cup - September 2025 Tournaments
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight Mutation # 489 Bannable Offense Mutation # 488 What Goes Around Mutation # 487 Think Fast
Brood War
General
ASL20 General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ alas... i aint gon' lie to u bruh... BW General Discussion [ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Ascent
Tourneys
CPL12 SIGN UP are open!!! [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL20] Ro16 Group B Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Borderlands 3 The PlayStation 5
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Games Industry And ATVI UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread High temperatures on bridge(s)
TL Community
BarCraft in Tokyo Japan for ASL Season5 Final The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Personality of a Spender…
TrAiDoS
A very expensive lesson on ma…
Garnet
hello world
radishsoup
Lemme tell you a thing o…
JoinTheRain
RTS Design in Hypercoven
a11
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1419 users

GM / Master map hacker and general hacking and cheating th…

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 6 7 8 9 10 531 Next
You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.

Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
May 28 2012 11:41 GMT
#141
On May 28 2012 20:22 Cattivik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 20:19 Mentalizor wrote:
On May 28 2012 20:09 VoO wrote:
Half the Master league on EU is maphacking. Nothing you can do about it.


Not true. Why would you say this?

Do you have any replays to back this up? Half the master league players are a huuuuge portion of players. I've played like 1500 1v1's in master league and I've only ever played 3-4 maphackers.

This is really not a huge issue on EU


You've discovered 3-4 maphackers.

There might be enough smart ones who don't make obvious moves, scout normally and just use the minimap to gain positioning advantages and bust hidden expos, or getting perfect runby/drop timings.


...Half the people in masters EU maphack? lmao. Nice claim you got there.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
haffy
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom430 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-28 11:44:43
May 28 2012 11:44 GMT
#142
On May 28 2012 20:27 Akriloth wrote:
It is sad that these stuff happen in SC2 :/ i remember getting 6 pooled by a zerg at a 4 player map when i was in diamond(no scout at all)...


Eh I don't really think that's too suspicious. I've done stuff like that while on tilt against Protoss, sometimes I get lucky, sometimes I don't.

It's kind of funny rolling in with a minute late 6 pool sometimes lol.
SomeONEx
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden641 Posts
May 28 2012 11:45 GMT
#143
On May 28 2012 13:33 Pinna wrote:
I feel like that blizzard really doesn't give a fu*k about all the hackers in StarCraft 2. For how many months did the RatZ dude (Can't rembember his name) go on until he was finally banned, banning almost-innocent destiny at the same time?
The report-function in game, I 100% believe that they don't even monitor that. You can spam the report, write tons of shit on those, and still nothing happens.

StarCraft 2 doesn't even have it's own gamemasters, and some of the gamemasters have no idea about starcraft.. (tickets)

Personally, I have gotten the feeling that Blizzard doesn't give a shit about anything, except if it can get them money. Much money.

Welcome to capitalist America
BW hwaiting!
Toxi78
Profile Joined May 2010
966 Posts
May 28 2012 11:46 GMT
#144
On May 28 2012 19:45 NeMeSiS3 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 19:36 Orracle wrote:
On May 28 2012 19:28 NeMeSiS3 wrote:
I always take "proof" with a grain of salt, seeing as other than visual evidence, nothing else is present. Anywho, if they hack, hope they're banned but I won't raise my pitchfork with the mob just yet.


Not sure what other evidence you'd want. What other proof is there to spot a maphack? Audio?


Since BW I've seen my share of funky games where someone just knows what the other player is doing, sees everything coming and 100% was not hacking (playing chaos on iccup), so seeing this here and there isn't surprising.


quite a bad troll, keep trying.
Masq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1792 Posts
May 28 2012 11:47 GMT
#145
On May 28 2012 16:31 Moosegills wrote:
http://www.livestream.com/shapestream =his stream

production tab, supply and money count, the whole works...

the best part-his record really isn't that good and he has all of that


ROFL
this guy even streams with his hack on? (check vods)

how shameless.
whiterabbit
Profile Joined June 2009
2675 Posts
May 28 2012 11:52 GMT
#146
I can accept that Blizzard's anti-hack system is flawed, I can understand they are getting spammed with false reports every minute and that is kinda hard (or at least requires a lot of manpower) for them to pinpoint real hackers BUT how the f*** hackers like this Impa are still playing? He is known hacker for so long, he doesn't even try to hide it and he still has his account intact. Really Blizzard?

Idea that there are hackers in GM is troubling, if you can't globally monitor and fight against hackers from every league at least keep an eye on damn Grandmaster league, it is disgrace having hackers taking GM slots.

I hope many people post on that Bnet forum thread, maybe that will be enough for Blizzard to at least get rid of one known hacker.
NUTELLA y u no make me skinny?!?
SC2ShoWTimE
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany722 Posts
May 28 2012 11:53 GMT
#147
i have noticed this on the eu server as well. i played a protoss a couple of times and even though he didnt peak at my base at all, he somehow always does the same build as me but a few seconds later(pvp). i checked his matchhistory and in other pvps it's the same.

no probe scout and even though he builds 1 obs, he doesnt scout with it but somehow always knows when and where my obs flies in to scout, where i hide a pylon or where i attack. dunno whether or not it is maphack, but it is more than strange. also, last season he was about 600 points in master and now suprisingly got a massive skill boost and is nearing gm...
Progamer
VanGarde
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden755 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-28 12:02:26
May 28 2012 11:55 GMT
#148
While you may occasionally catch a hacker by looking at replays and what not the real scary thing is that in 99% of cases you won't even be able to tell that they hacked. I got frustrated myself by playing people who openly claimed that they maphacked so I went and researched how these hacks actually works to give myself and edge in spotting them. I figured if I know what people can do with the hacks then I could spot it easier. The result is that I now know that almost everyone who hacks against me, I will never even know that they did.

All of the current hacks have features that for example can either lock their "official camera" on a location or even ghost it to move around their base in a pre-designed pattern. Meanwhile they are looking around in your base and anywhere they please yet in the replay or to an observer their camera will be somewhere completely different.

On top of that, they don't actually need to look at your base anyway because they will also be able to bring up the production tab and just see what you are making and if they are at a risk of losing they can still drop you or cause the score to glitch to get a tied game. There are hacks with all of these features available at the same time.
War does not determine who is right - only who is left.
ButterMeUp
Profile Joined February 2011
England76 Posts
May 28 2012 11:55 GMT
#149
I watched the VODs of his stream. Fucking shameless behaviour. He just chats like hes playing the game properly.

So:

We have multiple players and PRO Players reporting him for maphacking.
We have multiple threads saying he hacks with replays.
We even have VOD's and livestreams of him hacking and yet he continues to not be banned.

What the hell?

FastExpand show host
Kaitokid
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany1327 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-28 12:01:19
May 28 2012 11:55 GMT
#150
On May 28 2012 20:53 ShoWTimE94 wrote:
i have noticed this on the eu server as well. i played a protoss a couple of times and even though he didnt peak at my base at all, he somehow always does the same build as me but a few seconds later(pvp). i checked his matchhistory and in other pvps it's the same.

no probe scout and even though he builds 1 obs, he doesnt scout with it but somehow always knows when and where my obs flies in to scout, where i hide a pylon or where i attack. dunno whether or not it is maphack, but it is more than strange. also, last season he was about 600 points in master and now suprisingly got a massive skill boost and is nearing gm...


can you pm me the nickname of this guy?

lol just watched his stream VOD's, even though he is cheating he plays so bad that I wonder how he managed to get into GM. I need a NA account asap xD
CruelZeratul
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany4588 Posts
May 28 2012 12:05 GMT
#151
Perhpas someone should post the streamlink in the Bnet forum, too.
Pinna
Profile Joined April 2011
Finland152 Posts
May 28 2012 12:15 GMT
#152
On May 28 2012 20:24 B.I.G. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 13:33 Pinna wrote:
I feel like that blizzard really doesn't give a fu*k about all the hackers in StarCraft 2. For how many months did the RatZ dude (Can't rembember his name) go on until he was finally banned, banning almost-innocent destiny at the same time?
The report-function in game, I 100% believe that they don't even monitor that. You can spam the report, write tons of shit on those, and still nothing happens.

StarCraft 2 doesn't even have it's own gamemasters, and some of the gamemasters have no idea about starcraft.. (tickets)

Personally, I have gotten the feeling that Blizzard doesn't give a shit about anything, except if it can get them money. Much money.

What did you expect when you hit the report button? An immediate response saying: "Forgive us for displeasing you master! What would you have us do?" or something? It's probably just that if a certain player gets reported for the same thing over and over again that they start investigating him. And I'm glad they do it that way because there are probably a whole lot of frustrated fucks out there who falsely report you for hacking or harassment because they lost.

Well, considering I once wrote "fuck you asshole" on the report-message and reported the person like 10 times, I don't really think Blizz cares about the reports. You also never get to know, has anything actually happened, because if has, It's just really minor, like a 24-hour ban from chatting or something ridicilous like that (for swearing)
School..
SC2ShoWTimE
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany722 Posts
May 28 2012 12:15 GMT
#153
On May 28 2012 20:55 VanGarde wrote:
While you may occasionally catch a hacker by looking at replays and what not the real scary thing is that in 99% of cases you won't even be able to tell that they hacked. I got frustrated myself by playing people who openly claimed that they maphacked so I went and researched how these hacks actually works to give myself and edge in spotting them. I figured if I know what people can do with the hacks then I could spot it easier. The result is that I now know that almost everyone who hacks against me, I will never even know that they did.

All of the current hacks have features that for example can either lock their "official camera" on a location or even ghost it to move around their base in a pre-designed pattern. Meanwhile they are looking around in your base and anywhere they please yet in the replay or to an observer their camera will be somewhere completely different.

On top of that, they don't actually need to look at your base anyway because they will also be able to bring up the production tab and just see what you are making and if they are at a risk of losing they can still drop you or cause the score to glitch to get a tied game. There are hacks with all of these features available at the same time.


that is good to know because it's exactly what i could see in the replay(or could not see^^). the camera just didnt move very much and he also had very low apm because he probably checked my base.

hope blizzard reacts fast. it's already super annoying.
Progamer
KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
May 28 2012 12:23 GMT
#154
On May 28 2012 20:55 VanGarde wrote:
While you may occasionally catch a hacker by looking at replays and what not the real scary thing is that in 99% of cases you won't even be able to tell that they hacked. I got frustrated myself by playing people who openly claimed that they maphacked so I went and researched how these hacks actually works to give myself and edge in spotting them. I figured if I know what people can do with the hacks then I could spot it easier. The result is that I now know that almost everyone who hacks against me, I will never even know that they did.

All of the current hacks have features that for example can either lock their "official camera" on a location or even ghost it to move around their base in a pre-designed pattern. Meanwhile they are looking around in your base and anywhere they please yet in the replay or to an observer their camera will be somewhere completely different.

On top of that, they don't actually need to look at your base anyway because they will also be able to bring up the production tab and just see what you are making and if they are at a risk of losing they can still drop you or cause the score to glitch to get a tied game. There are hacks with all of these features available at the same time.


That's...kind of terrifying how sophisticated some of these hacks are.
www.twitch.tv/krazy Best Stream Quality NA @KClarkSC2
Pantythief
Profile Joined February 2012
Denmark657 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-28 12:27:22
May 28 2012 12:26 GMT
#155
I'll have to quote myself as it would seem that many of you think that it's all Blizzard's fault:

...no matter how many times Blizzard is improving Warden it won't help. In fact, Warden is working perfectly fine, but the way hacks are developed today is like a completely different language to Warden that it cannot understand or recognize. Most hacks today do not even come close to StarCraft 2 -- they're external, meaning that the software detects the executable file through memory and creates a virtual overlay across your screen to give you the extra "menu" you want, much like how hacks in FPS games work. Warden cannot detect this, because there's literally nothing for it to detect. Blizzard would have to scan this memory in order to catch hackers on-the-go but that'd be a breach on the law of privacy.


TL;DR, like many other developers around the globe, in order to catch up with hackers of 2012, as a developer, you'd have to execute alternative methods in order to get rid of hackers, methods of which are currently illegal in terms of consumer-privacy. (see; consumer privacy, bill of rights -- data security/breach, https://www.cdt.org/issue/data-securitybreach)

This is due to the illegal software being external and rooted locally from memory cache.
afkøaoilncpsdpdnaædc
PiGStarcraft
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia987 Posts
May 28 2012 12:27 GMT
#156
On May 28 2012 13:51 CarelessPride wrote:
nearly half the ladder from master- GM are maphackers I've stopped playing sc2 entirely and most of my freinds have as well its complete bullshit. just watch the replay for random reactions and sudden decision making that a normal player wouldnt do =.=.


Nearly half = 1/500??
Progamerwww.twitch.tv/x5_pig | pigrandom88@gmail.com | @x5_PiG | www.facebook.com/pigSC2
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
May 28 2012 12:28 GMT
#157
On May 28 2012 21:23 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 20:55 VanGarde wrote:
While you may occasionally catch a hacker by looking at replays and what not the real scary thing is that in 99% of cases you won't even be able to tell that they hacked. I got frustrated myself by playing people who openly claimed that they maphacked so I went and researched how these hacks actually works to give myself and edge in spotting them. I figured if I know what people can do with the hacks then I could spot it easier. The result is that I now know that almost everyone who hacks against me, I will never even know that they did.

All of the current hacks have features that for example can either lock their "official camera" on a location or even ghost it to move around their base in a pre-designed pattern. Meanwhile they are looking around in your base and anywhere they please yet in the replay or to an observer their camera will be somewhere completely different.

On top of that, they don't actually need to look at your base anyway because they will also be able to bring up the production tab and just see what you are making and if they are at a risk of losing they can still drop you or cause the score to glitch to get a tied game. There are hacks with all of these features available at the same time.


That's...kind of terrifying how sophisticated some of these hacks are.


To be honest, it would be strange otherwise - simple maphacks were available ten years ago, so surely there has to be some kind of progress. And as I said earlier, I guess the amount of dumb hackers is probably rather low. Most of them are definitely able to disguise their hacks properly so that never anything more than a suspicion remains.
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
May 28 2012 12:31 GMT
#158
On May 28 2012 20:22 Cattivik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 20:19 Mentalizor wrote:
On May 28 2012 20:09 VoO wrote:
Half the Master league on EU is maphacking. Nothing you can do about it.


Not true. Why would you say this?

Do you have any replays to back this up? Half the master league players are a huuuuge portion of players. I've played like 1500 1v1's in master league and I've only ever played 3-4 maphackers.

This is really not a huge issue on EU


You've discovered 3-4 maphackers.

There might be enough smart ones who don't make obvious moves, scout normally and just use the minimap to gain positioning advantages and bust hidden expos, or getting perfect runby/drop timings.


which would be still like, what 1%. Same feedback as Mentalizor on Eu, only one was obvious, and during a cw on 1000+ games.
Zest fanboy.
Peqqz
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany201 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-28 12:35:28
May 28 2012 12:34 GMT
#159
Watched replay.

100% maphack.


edit: This is Grandmaster? Why i am still in Diamond, when Toss sems so ez
first we make expand, then we defend it.
MeyerA
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Sweden122 Posts
May 28 2012 12:34 GMT
#160
I'm not sure but I think LATcruZer on NA maphacks, here is a replay: [image loading]

Prev 1 6 7 8 9 10 531 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 50m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 401
RotterdaM 288
SteadfastSC 140
UpATreeSC 61
BRAT_OK 59
JuggernautJason20
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 31510
Bisu 3166
EffOrt 1726
GuemChi 989
Larva 672
Mini 583
firebathero 330
Soma 203
sSak 200
Mong 127
[ Show more ]
Rush 126
Hyuk 96
Sharp 92
Sexy 91
Aegong 47
Terrorterran 21
Yoon 19
IntoTheRainbow 7
Dota 2
The International129876
Gorgc13805
PGG 19
Counter-Strike
Foxcn593
ScreaM563
Super Smash Bros
Chillindude48
Other Games
tarik_tv33259
gofns20271
FrodaN984
crisheroes348
Lowko341
Hui .340
KnowMe168
ArmadaUGS112
SortOf72
Mew2King68
QueenE60
ToD44
FunKaTv 40
MindelVK14
fpsfer 0
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1038
BasetradeTV30
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• poizon28 19
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• AfreecaTV YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
• Michael_bg 13
• HerbMon 12
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 1199
• Ler75
• Noizen47
Other Games
• Shiphtur246
Upcoming Events
BSL Team Wars
1h 50m
RSL Revival
16h 50m
Maestros of the Game
20h 50m
ShoWTimE vs Classic
Clem vs herO
Serral vs Bunny
Reynor vs Zoun
Cosmonarchy
22h 50m
Bonyth vs Dewalt
[BSL 2025] Weekly
1d
RSL Revival
1d 16h
Maestros of the Game
1d 23h
BSL Team Wars
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Snow vs Sharp
Jaedong vs Mini
Wardi Open
2 days
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Light vs Speed
Larva vs Soma
LiuLi Cup
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Copa Latinoamericana 4
SEL Season 2 Championship
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1

Upcoming

2025 Chongqing Offline CUP
BSL Polish World Championship 2025
BSL Season 21
SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL 21 Team A
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
EC S1
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.