Player : Junbei
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http://drop.sc/374319
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SpiritSTR
Brazil41 Posts
Player : Junbei Bnet url : http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/5161571/1/Jubei/ http://drop.sc/374319 | ||
Maasked
United States567 Posts
On February 18 2014 22:30 NFxJehuty wrote: Not sure if maphacker or not, because my off-race is bad, but is someone supposed to go Robo straight after Council in PvP? if not (After I placed DARK SHRINE): L: Masters N Phoenix C bod You can also notice he moves his army back to his main the second I place it, as if he knew I threw down that proxy/an attack was coming. I would need a replay to check, and it really depends, if you for example poke up a ramp and see a single stalker at 5:30 you usually drop a robo to be safe, but otherwise IDK. | ||
smaug81243
94 Posts
Through the midgame he happens to counter at the right times with no vision of my army + react with spores to my banshees. This alone could have just been coincidence but if you take a look at my army movement around 22-23 min you will see him pull drones from the base I'm moving to take out when he did not gain vision of it. | ||
Nido.Movida
United Kingdom2 Posts
Server EU League Diamond Description went proxy two gate on a 4 player map without scouting Replay link http://drop.sc/374460 | ||
Adrenalinn
7 Posts
On February 20 2014 06:55 Nido.Movida wrote: Hacker name : KaLLLeu Server EU League Diamond Description went proxy two gate on a 4 player map without scouting Replay link http://drop.sc/374460 you dont think he just got lucky? haha seems fishy yeah. | ||
Tossim111
United States246 Posts
Server: AM League: Plat (8-0) now playing Masters (I am Masters) Description: 00:00: Weak but, he does scout me at the first try. <- Do not even address this, please. 31:08 : After an engagement with both of our major armies, I attempt to drop his base @ 6-7 ' clock, his 5th. Usually when players lose the majority of their units in an engagement they would warp in to reinforce, but as soon as my drop nears his base, the 2nd action he does is warp in templar. TLDR: he warp ins 2 templar as soon as I am about to arrive with 3 medivacs at his 5th. 32:56 - 33:36 : Concentrates his army where I am pushing without any vision. I am able to walk around the xel'naga towers. 35:16: Again, he concentrates his army where I am pushing without any vision. What was suspicious is he takes control of the xel'naga tower for a moment when my army is near it, and as I advance out of sight, he moves in and engages. EDIT: What I had forgotten to add: 41:20: He focuses his camera on his HT at 3' oclock and is ready to storm my small army without vision of movement. There was a bm player by the name of [Ciels] Rain who was diamond; I tried finding him on nios.kr but the many Rains in ladder would not fit him as he had plenty of games played; possibly a banned player whom got another account. Here is the replay: http://drop.sc/374465 | ||
Nido.Movida
United Kingdom2 Posts
On February 20 2014 08:34 Adrenalinn wrote: Show nested quote + On February 20 2014 06:55 Nido.Movida wrote: Hacker name : KaLLLeu Server EU League Diamond Description went proxy two gate on a 4 player map without scouting Replay link http://drop.sc/374460 you dont think he just got lucky? haha seems fishy yeah. lol | ||
Advantageous
China1350 Posts
On February 20 2014 09:01 Tossim111 wrote: Suspicious of Hack: Rain Server: AM League: Plat (8-0) now playing Masters (I am Masters) Description: 00:00: Weak but, he does scout me at the first try. <- Do not even address this, please. 31:08 : After an engagement with both of our major armies, I attempt to drop his base @ 6-7 ' clock, his 5th. Usually when players lose the majority of their units in an engagement they would warp in to reinforce, but as soon as my drop nears his base, the 2nd action he does is warp in templar. TLDR: he warp ins 2 templar as soon as I am about to arrive with 3 medivacs at his 5th. 32:56 - 33:36 : Concentrates his army where I am pushing without any vision. I am able to walk around the xel'naga towers. 35:16: Again, he concentrates his army where I am pushing without any vision. What was suspicious is he takes control of the xel'naga tower for a moment when my army is near it, and as I advance out of sight, he moves in and engages. There was a bm player by the name of [Ciels] Rain who was diamond; I tried finding him on nios.kr but the many Rains in ladder would not fit him as he had plenty of games played; possibly a banned player whom got another account. Here is the replay: http://drop.sc/374465 Templars could just be lucky, when i use to be in masters i did warp in templars anticipating drops after losing my main army. Army positioning, this could just be luck; but is suspicious. "What was suspicious is he takes control of the xel'naga tower for a moment when my army is near it, and as I advance out of sight, he moves in and engages." this isn't that suspicious, he's taking xel naga and as soon as ur army moves out of sight it is likely that he's trying to catch u out of position. however, him taking xelnaga while u're near it (im assuming multiple times) is fairly suspicious. | ||
Tossim111
United States246 Posts
On February 20 2014 09:16 Advantageous wrote: Show nested quote + On February 20 2014 09:01 Tossim111 wrote: Suspicious of Hack: Rain Server: AM League: Plat (8-0) now playing Masters (I am Masters) Description: 00:00: Weak but, he does scout me at the first try. <- Do not even address this, please. 31:08 : After an engagement with both of our major armies, I attempt to drop his base @ 6-7 ' clock, his 5th. Usually when players lose the majority of their units in an engagement they would warp in to reinforce, but as soon as my drop nears his base, the 2nd action he does is warp in templar. TLDR: he warp ins 2 templar as soon as I am about to arrive with 3 medivacs at his 5th. 32:56 - 33:36 : Concentrates his army where I am pushing without any vision. I am able to walk around the xel'naga towers. 35:16: Again, he concentrates his army where I am pushing without any vision. What was suspicious is he takes control of the xel'naga tower for a moment when my army is near it, and as I advance out of sight, he moves in and engages. There was a bm player by the name of [Ciels] Rain who was diamond; I tried finding him on nios.kr but the many Rains in ladder would not fit him as he had plenty of games played; possibly a banned player whom got another account. Here is the replay: http://drop.sc/374465 Templars could just be lucky, when i use to be in masters i did warp in templars anticipating drops after losing my main army. Army positioning, this could just be luck; but is suspicious. Show nested quote + this isn't that suspicious, he's taking xel naga and as soon as ur army moves out of sight it is likely that he's trying to catch u out of position. however, him taking xelnaga while u're near it (im assuming multiple times) is fairly suspicious."What was suspicious is he takes control of the xel'naga tower for a moment when my army is near it, and as I advance out of sight, he moves in and engages." No, I dont move out of sight, I was never in sight for an estimated 2 minutes. He has his army positioned at the choke majority of the game, and as I sneak around, he reacts perfectly, without ever having vision. | ||
mainerd
United States347 Posts
Server: NA League: GM Description: I probably wouldn't have thought much of this game if not for the reaper movement at the start when my zealot was moving towards his nat. He didn't hop the reaper into my main to scout, instead went to watch tower, which did not reveal my zealot, but brought back his reaper to his natural anyway. There are times it seems he's not maphacking, like 9:00 when he scouts my army with a marine and pulls back into his main, but the fact he didn't scout my base at all and had great timing on scouting my army + his removal of proxy pylons and an intercept on my prism makes me suspicious. Replay | ||
Shanyo
Belgium70 Posts
On February 23 2014 04:48 mainerd wrote: Hacker name: NWABroseidon Server: NA League: GM Description: I probably wouldn't have thought much of this game if not for the reaper movement at the start when my zealot was moving towards his nat. He didn't hop the reaper into my main to scout, instead went to watch tower, which did not reveal my zealot, but brought back his reaper to his natural anyway. There are times it seems he's not maphacking, like 9:00 when he scouts my army with a marine and pulls back into his main, but the fact he didn't scout my base at all and had great timing on scouting my army + his removal of proxy pylons and an intercept on my prism makes me suspicious. Replay He's a confirmed hacker. Search his name on SC2 reddit. | ||
Adrenalinn
7 Posts
On February 23 2014 05:23 Shanyo wrote: Show nested quote + On February 23 2014 04:48 mainerd wrote: Hacker name: NWABroseidon Server: NA League: GM Description: I probably wouldn't have thought much of this game if not for the reaper movement at the start when my zealot was moving towards his nat. He didn't hop the reaper into my main to scout, instead went to watch tower, which did not reveal my zealot, but brought back his reaper to his natural anyway. There are times it seems he's not maphacking, like 9:00 when he scouts my army with a marine and pulls back into his main, but the fact he didn't scout my base at all and had great timing on scouting my army + his removal of proxy pylons and an intercept on my prism makes me suspicious. Replay He's a confirmed hacker. Search his name on SC2 reddit. Interesting. I had no idea. I think I've lost to him a few times. | ||
NFxJehuty
United Kingdom58 Posts
Clan : [Sæxy] Race: Protoss League: Diamond(Masters MMR/ ex-15 time masters player) Patrols third base without any knowledge on spawn position or sighting of overlords on Alterzim Stronghold (4 Player map). | ||
Adrenalinn
7 Posts
On February 23 2014 08:00 NFxJehuty wrote: Player: SoulS Clan : [Sæxy] Race: Protoss League: Diamond(Masters MMR/ ex-15 time masters player) Patrols third base without any knowledge on spawn position or sighting of overlords on Alterzim Stronghold (4 Player map). The scout isn't sketchy, could just be luck. But the fact that he patrols it is really weird. | ||
TheMaXiM
United States43 Posts
Server NA League Diamond Description: This recent game vs (Xgs) CaptainPro, I felt he knew every plan I had all of the way, after looking at the replay you can see some of these points where the map hacking is VERY VERY OBVIOUS. Here are some key points you can jump too in the replay here: http://drop.sc/374683 The opening proxied rax was quite obvious and I knew it had been scouted so that there was not suspicious to me at all 6:00, you can see he wasn't over making lings at all and was quite aware of the aggression I was putting on. With the vision he had, there was no real way to know I wasn't just massing marines, but not SUPER suspicious in this moment, just a nod toward what's to come. 12:30, He selects his roaches to come to EXACTLY the corner my marines are coming in at the EXACT time, without any overlord coverage on the map 14:30, rallies roaches to my third, not suspicious in itself but he had no vision and just KNEW to rally there for w/e reason. Not the most insane part of the replay though. 19:50, moves a group of roaches to his natural and even BURROWS them waiting for a drop that can't be seen due to his ZERO overlord coverage on the map, no possible way to see this coming, yet he had the reaction ready at the EXACT time my drop was coming? 21:45, Burrows his army of roaches waiting for my army to approach with still, no vision of the whole entire map. There's no way to know this attack is coming again, you'd have to see it coming to do that reaction. From here on he is just taunting me, daring me to report him for something he knows is hard to be punished for. It's pretty ridiculous that there are an unknown amount of these people out there and I hope Blizzard can get something done about this soon. It seems like we see more of these threads as time goes on. Thank you for taking the time to look through the replay and read this, I really hope it gets somewhere. | ||
Grippe87
Sweden59 Posts
On February 23 2014 14:37 TheMaXiM wrote: It's pretty ridiculous that there are an unknown amount of these people out there and I hope Blizzard can get something done about this soon. It seems like we see more of these threads as time goes on. So, while it seems likely that this guy had some hack going on, this isn't exactly 'proof'. It could be a total coincidence, especially with stuff like moving his army in what seems like a reaction to yours even if he has no scouting. Watch any of your own games with this same critical eye and you'll notice that sometimes this kind of positioning takes place. The reality of SC2 is that there are optimal locations and positions to try and defend and attack, like behind choke points or up ramps, or even before chokes in the case of zvx. Burrowing roaches at drop locations is also suspicious but unfortunately not proof, because again, there are good places to drop and good places to defend potential drops. I remember back in WoL when mass drop play was popular vs zerg, and one of the ways to defend it was to burrow banes at the most obvious drop locations. I grant that this is a little different in that it's not banes, but ppl do weird shit in diamond league lol. What is proof is stuff like in-base proxies on 4 player maps with no scouts for example, or mirroring army movements without vision (notice, not merely re-positioning armies at optimal locations). Blizzard's strategy on banning people unfortunately allows for a lot of suspicious activity to fall through the cracks, but I think it's one of those "innocent until proven guilty" ideals that guides their thinking here. Altogether I don't think that's a bad thing. I do, however, think that they need to update the technology they use to identify cheating. But I'm not holding my breath since Blizzard has never been particularly with the times when it comes to technology. | ||
TheMaXiM
United States43 Posts
On February 23 2014 18:59 Grippe87 wrote: Show nested quote + On February 23 2014 14:37 TheMaXiM wrote: It's pretty ridiculous that there are an unknown amount of these people out there and I hope Blizzard can get something done about this soon. It seems like we see more of these threads as time goes on. So, while it seems likely that this guy had some hack going on, this isn't exactly 'proof'. It could be a total coincidence, especially with stuff like moving his army in what seems like a reaction to yours even if he has no scouting. Watch any of your own games with this same critical eye and you'll notice that sometimes this kind of positioning takes place. The reality of SC2 is that there are optimal locations and positions to try and defend and attack, like behind choke points or up ramps, or even before chokes in the case of zvx. Burrowing roaches at drop locations is also suspicious but unfortunately not proof, because again, there are good places to drop and good places to defend potential drops. I remember back in WoL when mass drop play was popular vs zerg, and one of the ways to defend it was to burrow banes at the most obvious drop locations. I grant that this is a little different in that it's not banes, but ppl do weird shit in diamond league lol. What is proof is stuff like in-base proxies on 4 player maps with no scouts for example, or mirroring army movements without vision (notice, not merely re-positioning armies at optimal locations). Blizzard's strategy on banning people unfortunately allows for a lot of suspicious activity to fall through the cracks, but I think it's one of those "innocent until proven guilty" ideals that guides their thinking here. Altogether I don't think that's a bad thing. I do, however, think that they need to update the technology they use to identify cheating. But I'm not holding my breath since Blizzard has never been particularly with the times when it comes to technology. I understand that sometimes we have our gamer sense turn on and catch alot of things but you can't move your army into position and burrow it every time just where they're going to walk in. Can't move in for every drop that's happening before it happens when you have NO OVERLORD COVERAGE WHAT SO EVER. Then they taunt you with the fact that they are hacking. I'd say that's MORE than 100% proof. | ||
krayzie.814
United States4 Posts
http://drop.sc/374759 Game1 http://drop.sc/374760 Game2 http://drop.sc/374761 Game3 http://drop.sc/374763 Game4 | ||
Niejadek
United States13 Posts
Clan : [Zeubie] Race: Protoss League: Diamond (i didnt play like 1 month) Hi, i just played vs Crash and im thinking he used maphack. Can somebody check the replay and tell your own opinion ? http://drop.sc/374778 3:16 Forge wtf ? 4:08 canon, no scout 11:58 im moving out to push, hes making canons on natural 20:44 adding canon on main 20:52 moving whole army into main where my drop is coming and warping extra stalker to follow up in main and few more | ||
Maasked
United States567 Posts
Race: Zerg League: Diamond Was playing unranked, this guys play made absolutely no sense, he didnt look into the FoW too often/all that suspiciously, but his reactions to things were a bit too fast for me to call normal Also 25:18 splits up his mutas in a completely impossible way, like there is no way a human could do that. Would love for someone to look through it <3 http://drop.sc/374966 | ||
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