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On February 25 2014 17:11 Maasked wrote:ID: Mark Race: Zerg League: Diamond Was playing unranked, this guys play made absolutely no sense, he didnt look into the FoW too often/all that suspiciously, but his reactions to things were a bit too fast for me to call normal Also 25:18 splits up his mutas in a completely impossible way, like there is no way a human could do that. Would love for someone to look through it <3 http://drop.sc/374966
Nothing suspicious so far. Likely a smurf tbh. People dont necessarily have to scout everything or look at the specific buildings to know what's coming. For example I'm high masters and I can tell what's happening just by seeing a gas timing on the minimap. It wouldn't surprise me if better players could make even more precise intuitive responses like this.
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On February 25 2014 17:31 Adrenalinn wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2014 17:11 Maasked wrote:ID: Mark Race: Zerg League: Diamond Was playing unranked, this guys play made absolutely no sense, he didnt look into the FoW too often/all that suspiciously, but his reactions to things were a bit too fast for me to call normal Also 25:18 splits up his mutas in a completely impossible way, like there is no way a human could do that. Would love for someone to look through it <3 http://drop.sc/374966 Nothing suspicious so far. Likely a smurf tbh. People dont necessarily have to scout everything or look at the specific buildings to know what's coming. For example I'm high masters and I can tell what's happening just by seeing a gas timing on the minimap. It wouldn't surprise me if better players could make even more precise intuitive responses like this.
A smurf of a better player wouldnt have macroed so weakly
My play was pretty awful and I still beat him. I should probably go timestamp a bunch more things I found suspicious. I found it quite strange when he suddenly reacted to my army near his 3rd base when he quickly switches his SH rally point over to the top area, it just seemed like he was waiting for my units to move onscreen to swap over. He would also seem to rally units to things he couldnt see (he sent mutas to exactly where i built 2 starports, without scouting them)
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ID: IIIIIIIIIIII
Race: Zerg
League: Grandmaster
Played this dude in an unranked game, he avoids my initial scouting probe with his overlord without seeing it, he then continues to send lings STRAIGHT to all my continuous proxy pylon probes without knowing that they are there. There are probably more tells than this but that was enough to convince me atleast. I left without a GG and he proceeded to PM me with a GG while i was watching the replay, i then asked him about the maphacking and after ignoring my messages for a while he eventually put on the setting so that only friends can PM him.
http://drop.sc/375010
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ID: [NoTT] MosDef
Race: Terran
League: Diamond
I go for a Cloak Banshee-Build and he isnt even scouting and builds mines, turrets and is often looking into the FoW.
8:40 he cant see my Widow-Mine but moves 1 Marine near it. The WM was in the FoW
15:33 he is doing a Medivac-Drop and his Rallye is exactly between my turrets
18:33 he has no Information about my Moveout and is positioning his units and looking in the FoW several times
21:20 he is knewing that im coming through the right side, but how? There wasnt a unit or scan. He is looking into the FoW...
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4f57b6bjd4wc189/Heavy Rain LE (99).SC2Replay
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http://drop.sc/375313
so obvious doesnt even need a description. proxy gates on forst, heads immediately to my base without ever seeing that i actually spawned there.
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Hacker Name: Infected
Server: NA
League: Gold
Hey all, I have some pretty convincing evidence of a player maphacking. If you would, please take the time to watch this replay and have a look yourself. Unfortunately, I doubt blizzard will do anything regarding this situation, so I'd like to bring it up on TL. The biggest giveaway is around 23:00 or so when I take my third at the back destructible rocks on Polar Night. He drops a large force behind the bushes so he hasn't seen the base yet, begins running over, and stims before the game says he's seen anything (But we all know he's seen everything). This is only the most obvious tell, however the whole game seems to be riddled with red flags screaming "I MAPHACK!." Thanks again!
Replay here: http://drop.sc/375385
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On February 23 2014 18:59 Grippe87 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2014 14:37 TheMaXiM wrote:
It's pretty ridiculous that there are an unknown amount of these people out there and I hope Blizzard can get something done about this soon. It seems like we see more of these threads as time goes on. So, while it seems likely that this guy had some hack going on, this isn't exactly 'proof'. It could be a total coincidence, especially with stuff like moving his army in what seems like a reaction to yours even if he has no scouting. Watch any of your own games with this same critical eye and you'll notice that sometimes this kind of positioning takes place. The reality of SC2 is that there are optimal locations and positions to try and defend and attack, like behind choke points or up ramps, or even before chokes in the case of zvx. Burrowing roaches at drop locations is also suspicious but unfortunately not proof, because again, there are good places to drop and good places to defend potential drops. I remember back in WoL when mass drop play was popular vs zerg, and one of the ways to defend it was to burrow banes at the most obvious drop locations. I grant that this is a little different in that it's not banes, but ppl do weird shit in diamond league lol. What is proof is stuff like in-base proxies on 4 player maps with no scouts for example, or mirroring army movements without vision (notice, not merely re-positioning armies at optimal locations). Blizzard's strategy on banning people unfortunately allows for a lot of suspicious activity to fall through the cracks, but I think it's one of those "innocent until proven guilty" ideals that guides their thinking here. Altogether I don't think that's a bad thing. I do, however, think that they need to update the technology they use to identify cheating. But I'm not holding my breath since Blizzard has never been particularly with the times when it comes to technology.
Also this thread has gone un-moderated for about a year or so. A lot of the posts in this thread have gone to mostly whining, people posting replays just because they were angry they lost and accuse people of cheating because they feel like it. A good portion of these reports don't even have any proof attached.
Don't think since HOTS came out, this thread is maintained with real hacker information like it was in Wings.
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Another GOLD player map hacking.
Server: NA
Player name: holigo
League: Gold
Just played vs this guy in a ZvZ. At first I thought I just played badly(which I didn't play great) but something felt off. Watched replay. The guy looks at my base through the fog multiple times. "Blindly builds 2 evos mass spine roach warren wall" tons of queens. Then even has the nerve to watch my banelings morphing without ever seeing any indication at all that they were coming. The moment he looks at the banes morphing(ZERO vision on replay) he pulls all queens to ramp to defend.
I know it's gold league and blizzard doesn't seem to care either way but still
Also checked the guys match history, looks like a few weeks ago he was pretty much splitting games.. took a little break and as of 2 days ago has played maybe 30-40 games and lost 1.
Replay here : http://drop.sc/375406 if anyone cares to verify.
And a link to his b.net profile to see the match history: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/5340316/1/holigo/matches
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Server: NA
Player name: SUZUKI
League: Diamond
He looks on my base the whole game, even using the camera hotkey.
Right when I start my proxy barracks, (8-8-8 reaper rush) he sends the probe to the location, which is even to early to say it is a normal scout.
His build just blind counters my follow up without any scouting.
He sends out a pheonix to my medivac when I wanted to drop him.
He sends the oracle in after I left my base with the army.
And he was like I said before watching my base threw fog of war all the time.
Replay http://drop.sc/375635
I know blizzard just dont care but now I feel a bit better.
Sorry for my bad english btw I am not as used to as you guys.
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Hacker name: TomBombodil
Server: NA
League: masters
Description: http://drop.sc/375646 - blind 13 12 counter to 10 pool bane. blind spine crawler. builds natural and third right after i start mine. no scout. builds units when i queue up units. moves army according to my positioning. hard to argue against mh.
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Server: NA
Player name: Revolution
League: Masters
Description: Map is frost. He opens blink stalker on one base. Without even seeing any of my units or my scouting SCVs or even sending a scout of his own, he warps in his stalkers and proceeds to walk to my main. Zero scouting and neither of us had even seen a single unit yet and he knows precisely where I spawn. Next, I go for a cloak banshee follow up. He warps in a high templar and then watches the location I'm sending the banshee for a feedback. He never saw it coming. He didn't even know I had a starport. He never once scouted nor did he make a single observer the whole game. He then drops 3 stargates and chronos out voidrays when I drop my extra factories to go mech. So again without scouting, he already knows I'm going mech and is preparing a hard counter. Keep in mind, he has only seen a bunker, a supply depot, a CC, marines, and one banshee at this point.
The most blatant evidence here is still the fact that he knew exactly where I spawned on a 4 player map without scouting or seeing any of my units.
Replay: http://drop.sc/375723
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Server : EU
Player name : IIIIIIIIIIIII
League : Diamond
Description : I make a SG oppener, when he see it he start directly a second starport and make a toon of vicking.... so he counter my build (colossus / phoenix)... after i start HT production he start ghost production but nobody make ghost in mech TvP !!! it's an obvious hack !!!
Replay : http://drop.sc/375745
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Server: EU
Player name: [xGame] Spectator
League: Diamond
Description: He didn't scout me and countered my build without any information about what I'm doing. Look at his camera when he is playing. He exactly was looking at my base when i was buildng depo and then at the position of my rax in the middle of the map. For sure it's maphack. Please ban him.
Replay: http://drop.sc/375977
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On March 04 2014 22:56 2080Insanity wrote:Server : EU Player name : IIIIIIIIIIIII League : Diamond Description : I make a SG oppener, when he see it he start directly a second starport and make a toon of vicking.... so he counter my build (colossus / phoenix)... after i start HT production he start ghost production but nobody make ghost in mech TvP !!! it's an obvious hack !!! Replay : http://drop.sc/375745
Ghosts are actually very important in mech TvP.
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On February 23 2014 14:37 TheMaXiM wrote:Hacker name [xGs] CaptainPro Server NA League Diamond Description: This recent game vs (Xgs) CaptainPro, I felt he knew every plan I had all of the way, after looking at the replay you can see some of these points where the map hacking is VERY VERY OBVIOUS. Here are some key points you can jump too in the replay here: http://drop.sc/374683The opening proxied rax was quite obvious and I knew it had been scouted so that there was not suspicious to me at all 6:00, you can see he wasn't over making lings at all and was quite aware of the aggression I was putting on. With the vision he had, there was no real way to know I wasn't just massing marines, but not SUPER suspicious in this moment, just a nod toward what's to come. 12:30, He selects his roaches to come to EXACTLY the corner my marines are coming in at the EXACT time, without any overlord coverage on the map 14:30, rallies roaches to my third, not suspicious in itself but he had no vision and just KNEW to rally there for w/e reason. Not the most insane part of the replay though. 19:50, moves a group of roaches to his natural and even BURROWS them waiting for a drop that can't be seen due to his ZERO overlord coverage on the map, no possible way to see this coming, yet he had the reaction ready at the EXACT time my drop was coming? 21:45, Burrows his army of roaches waiting for my army to approach with still, no vision of the whole entire map. There's no way to know this attack is coming again, you'd have to see it coming to do that reaction. From here on he is just taunting me, daring me to report him for something he knows is hard to be punished for. It's pretty ridiculous that there are an unknown amount of these people out there and I hope Blizzard can get something done about this soon. It seems like we see more of these threads as time goes on. Thank you for taking the time to look through the replay and read this, I really hope it gets somewhere.
I'm the co-leader of xGs, Spectrum. I've duly checked the replay with several teammates of mine and we have concluded that he indeed maphacks. He's been removed xGamers as a result and the remaining 44 of us reported him for maphacking. Thanks for the replay good sir!
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Hacker Name: CapitanPro
Server NA
League Masters
Description: Like I said earlier, I am the co-leader of xGs and reviewed a recent report of ex member CapitanPro. We all realized that he maphacks and decided to fool with him a little bit before kicking him. I collected much more evidence, and in fact a replay that is ten times more blatant than the previous one.
http://drop.sc/376001
Here it's a PvZ, Xsir at my request proxy stargated him and he clicks exactly on where the stargate is, looks at it, and sends lings to hit it at around 7 minutes(no previous vision and zero map control).
In this other one, I asked for a 2port banshee from one of my Terrans, and well... you'll see for yourself. He does a gasless opener into Roaches(without scouting it's mech), and then puts down a spire the second the banshees are started with cloak. He then proceeds to find the starports proxied on a different base in Frost. Here you go.
http://drop.sc/376002
Thanks for bringing this to my attention once more!
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Hacker Name: [xGsAc]langel
AKA: [xGs]CapitanPro
League: Masters
Server: NA
Description: knows exactly when and where to make roaches. uses the same hotkeys as his aka capitanpro. uses the same dialogue as capitan pro (bad english and calls opponents fucker) doesnt use overlords to scout except the starting one. doesnt use creep spread. (all master players do) inidicative of hacks improving his mmr. has record of 40-6 on the ladder. (nobody has a record like that unless youre a pro or a hacker)
Replay: http://drop.sc/376013
Overall just a douche and should be forced to spend more money on a new account.
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Name : KrrFan
League : GM
Server : EU
http://drop.sc/376025
I proxy rax him, he sends 1 scv exactly where I drop my rax without reason, he didn't plan to scout elsewhere, only where I dropped my rax.
I'm not saying this guy is a hacker 100%, but this is pretty suspect. Still won heh.
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On February 28 2014 10:36 LoraX wrote:http://drop.sc/375313so obvious doesnt even need a description. proxy gates on forst, heads immediately to my base without ever seeing that i actually spawned there.
Doesn't really prove anything. Could be just luck.
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League: Masters
Server: NA
Replay: http://drop.sc/376275
Description: Goes directly to my early game proxy pylon after not seeing my probe. Directly counters DT follow up without scouting at all as well as blink follow up and then attacks right as I'm making a nexus without any scouting at all.
Also has like 90 APM and is just bad with reaction time/micro which just makes him look like he needs hacks to win.
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