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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody. Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence. | ||
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Ravomat
Germany422 Posts
On February 13 2014 20:15 negativ wrote: http://drop.sc/373882 [KDV]Guru eu-ml over9000 blind clicks into the fog of war + "perfect" harras There wasn't anything suspicious in this game. Also I play him regularly and never noticed anything. | ||
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AcieDeucie
Luxembourg16 Posts
On February 13 2014 20:49 Ravomat wrote: There wasn't anything suspicious in this game. Also I play him regularly and never noticed anything. I can't find anything suspicious either. Might want to provide some concrete examples of suspicious play, before accusing someone of maphacking. | ||
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Ravomat
Germany422 Posts
On February 13 2014 21:02 AcieDeucie wrote: I can't find anything suspicious either. Might want to provide some concrete examples of suspicious play, before accusing someone of maphacking. He doesn't need to. It's obvious he's just crying. He accused Guru ingame of hacking when he intercepted the Voids just after he killed his 4th. This is just stupid. Another thing that might seem suspicious is the attack on the Protoss' 4th but it isn't. Attacking through that area of the map is just a lot better because there is more space to work with. Preventing the 4th was just a bonus. It would've been different if P expanded to the corner of the map and Guru walked his army blindly up there. | ||
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Jimmeh
United Kingdom908 Posts
MaJjm - http://www.ggtracker.com/matches/4731857 His army movement was just really dodgy all game with basically 0 scouting apart from initial SCV. | ||
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Ravomat
Germany422 Posts
On February 13 2014 21:27 Jimmeh wrote: Can anyone tell me if this guy is maphacking? MaJjm - http://www.ggtracker.com/matches/4731857 His army movement was just really dodgy all game with basically 0 scouting apart from initial SCV. I'd say he is. The attempted interception of the banshee at 9:50 and the scan when it came in again at 10:30 are pretty obvious. | ||
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ProPhet1997
Germany1 Post
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
On February 13 2014 23:47 ProPhet1997 wrote: look this replay again there is no hack ! he is just a good player and when u droped him he never saw it ! so shut the fuck up to blame someone as a hacker ! Damn i missclicked in my report button i clicked on game bashing T_T | ||
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DinoMight
United States3725 Posts
Guy called me a map hacker and reported me. Obviously I wasn't hacking and just outplayed him in a series. The lesson to learn is please be really sure the guy you are playing is hacking before you accuse them. It's a really serious accusation that is easy to make when you're upset, and falsely accusing someone of hacking/cheating sucks balls. | ||
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Jimmeh
United Kingdom908 Posts
On February 13 2014 23:47 ProPhet1997 wrote: look this replay again there is no hack ! he is just a good player and when u droped him he never saw it ! so shut the fuck up to blame someone as a hacker ! So I'm guessing you're the map hacker based on the fact that your first post is a raging defence of some "random" guy? I watched the replay again and it's obvious that you're 100% maphacking. If anyone cares to watch the replay and see for themselves: First thing to note is that the ONLY time he scouts is with a scouting SCV, but he never scouts after that. Now that's not dodgy but keep that in mind with his perfect reactions to almost everything: 4:10 - 4:30: You pull your marines up from the natural ramp to your main ramp to deal with a (completely unscouted) 1 scv + 1 marine poke. You even look directly at my SCV at 4:25 - 4:30. 4:40 - You've seen me poking at your front (the only unit movement you've actually seen from me), but instead of holding the ramp you pull back to the cliff to defend vs an unscouted reaper. 7:00 - Units perfectly positioned to deal with (unscouted) drop. Not really suspicious on it's own, but the fact that I was pressuring you a minute before hand and you completely ignore you main ramp and focus only on a drop is suspicious. 7:40 - Amove directly into Fog of War where I've just dropped. You haven't seen my medivac go there, bring all your forces to that location which leaves the rest of the drop space completely exposed if I was dropping there. The only reason you would do this is if you were an idiot, or knew I was 100% there. 9:00 - You move your 2 vikings to where my banshee is going to come to your main. Now this could just be smart but it's really coincidental given everything else that happens. 9:40 - You move almost your entire army to where directly where my next banshee is coming from. You haven't seen it coming, but you some how luckily manage to move your army to pretty much the exact spot where it's going. 10:26 - You move your vision away from your main, to where my cloaked banshee is coming back in. You can't see it on the minimap, but you somehow know to look back to there at the exact moment it starts moving. 10:50 - You intercept another banshee. This could actually be luck, but given everything else it's suspect. 11:55 - You go to push, see nothing but a banshee at the top of my natural ramp, but look into the Fog of War where my (unscouted) hellion concave is and decide to pull back. 13:40 - You move your army to intercept where my (unscouted) push is coming from and siege up for the first time in the game. Then at 13:45-48 you move your hellions to the bottom of the ramp exactly as I'm about to come down the ramp. You don't see any of this and yet you react perfectly to it. 14:15 - You take your vision away from your main and back to your tanks, just before I push into it. Again you don't have vision of it, but just as I'm pushing you manage to look back to your tanks just in time. Edit: To anyone who thinks a large part of the above sounds coincidental, like good play, or just luck - I urge you to watch the replay and see for yourself. | ||
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Ravomat
Germany422 Posts
On February 13 2014 23:47 ProPhet1997 wrote: look this replay again there is no hack ! he is just a good player and when u droped him he never saw it ! so shut the fuck up to blame someone as a hacker ! MaJjm repelled the first drop attempt at 9:30 with 2 vikings. 15 seconds later he moves all of his army to intercept the banshee, not to the mineral line, before he even saw it. And because his army control is quite bad, he used select all army to defend his nat, his main was open to be dropped. I even thought said viking defense was fishy as hell considering he saw Jimmehs banshee and still sent both his vikings to defend the drop instead of splitting them up. I guess a few more replays wouldn't hurt to clarify. | ||
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Ai.CPU
Germany11 Posts
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
On February 14 2014 00:58 Ai.CPU wrote: btw,Prophet1997 is a multible times reported maphacker who was formerly known as [ESC]NotAvailable so i wouldn't give all too much credit to the opinion of a cheater I looked on google. Found a ESCFear but not the player who you mentionned and no mention of maphacking. Do you have any proof about that ? | ||
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Wilko
Germany470 Posts
On February 14 2014 01:04 FFW_Rude wrote: I looked on google. Found a ESCFear but not the player who you mentionned and no mention of maphacking. Do you have any proof about that ? There is plenty of proof in this thread | ||
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AyaaLa
Spain629 Posts
where?? don't be a asshole accusing people without a showing us shit | ||
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Jimmeh
United Kingdom908 Posts
On February 14 2014 01:31 AyaaLa wrote: where?? don't be a asshole accusing people without a showing us shit http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=340614¤tpage=363#7251 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=340614¤tpage=365#7289 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=340614¤tpage=365#7290 Then his team posting that he'd been kicked for hacking. Edit- That's for NotAvailable. I have no proof that NotAvailable=Prophet1997 since I'm not the person who said that. | ||
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
of prophet ? Must have missed it  EDIT : i saw your edit. Thanks | ||
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Wilko
Germany470 Posts
On February 14 2014 01:31 AyaaLa wrote: where?? don't be a asshole accusing people without a showing us shit Didn't i just provide proof by telling you that there is proof in this thread? I'm confused On February 14 2014 01:38 FFW_Rude wrote: of prophet ? Must have missed it EDIT : i saw your edit. Thanks Might be confusing when you don't have additional info Basically Notavailable is a maphacker from germany born in 1997 who renamed himself to prophet on battlenet after he got kicked from his team ESC due to his cheating. That's how Ai.CPU made the connection | ||
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dWarreN
117 Posts
On February 14 2014 02:18 Wilko wrote: Didn't i just provide proof by telling you that there is proof in this thread? I'm confused Might be confusing when you don't have additional info Basically Notavailable is a maphacker from germany born in 1997 who renamed himself to prophet on battlenet after he got kicked from his team ESC due to his cheating. That's how Ai.CPU made the connection I also believe that was the guy on CoreEU that was mentioned in this thread a few pages ago. He even tried streaming to prove that he didn't hack. That didn't work out. | ||
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Nogard
Italy40 Posts
Bnet Profile: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/4650593/1/IIIIIIIIIIII/ Server: EU Replay: http://drop.sc/373905 ZvP. This guy goes expo first followed by double gas before gate against my expo first. He plays the entire game blind, the only structures he sees are my third and 2 gases. He immediately build 2 stargates in response to my spire. | ||
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
On February 14 2014 02:18 Wilko wrote: Didn't i just provide proof by telling you that there is proof in this thread? I'm confused Might be confusing when you don't have additional info Basically Notavailable is a maphacker from germany born in 1997 who renamed himself to prophet on battlenet after he got kicked from his team ESC due to his cheating. That's how Ai.CPU made the connection I don't know why that guy got at your throat. I was just politly asking I don't know why he felt the need to call you an asshole. | ||
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