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Equity213
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada873 Posts
August 18 2012 23:20 GMT
#1321
On August 19 2012 08:18 Gumbi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2012 08:12 Equity213 wrote:
On August 19 2012 07:50 Gumbi wrote:
Husky is a great guy. I've always seen him as a genuine guy with a true passion for SC2. Got me into SC


Im not a fan of Husky, I will admit im biased. But answer me this: If he has such a true passion of SC2, why is his best race diamond level protoss?
If you cant put in the time to get into master league then do you really have a passion for the game?
I think Husky has a passion for being in the spotlight, not for the game.

Theres nothing wrong with being a noob, we all were once. But when I was, I wouldnt have been presumptious enough to want to cast MLG. Its really embarassing.

TLDR: im just a 'hater', disregard above statements

Perhaps he prefers to watch 1v1 than play it? Perphaps he prefers to play customs? On what basis do you claim (or at least, strongly imply) that he is not genuine, and instead prefers to in the spotlight?


My basis is his admitted league (what other measure of skill should I use?) compared to other people in his profession.
TeslasPigeon
Profile Joined March 2012
464 Posts
August 18 2012 23:21 GMT
#1322
On August 19 2012 08:16 Equity213 wrote:

Name me one other caster thats worse than Husky. Seriously... He is the lowest common denominator.


Kevin Knocke is platinum, also you don't need to be awesome at the game to be a decent caster and not every caster should strive to be an analyst (seeing how they all still make horrible calls and predictions).
TheSwamp
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1497 Posts
August 18 2012 23:21 GMT
#1323
On August 19 2012 08:12 Equity213 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2012 07:50 Gumbi wrote:
Husky is a great guy. I've always seen him as a genuine guy with a true passion for SC2. Got me into SC


Im not a fan of Husky, I will admit im biased. But answer me this: If he has such a true passion of SC2, why is his best race diamond level protoss?
If you cant put in the time to get into master league then do you really have a passion for the game?
I think Husky has a passion for being in the spotlight, not for the game.

Theres nothing wrong with being a noob, we all were once. But when I was, I wouldnt have been presumptious enough to want to cast MLG. Its really embarassing.

TLDR: im just a 'hater', disregard above statements


He has ladder anxiety.
MLG: How is your Protoss? Idra: I make Blink Stalkers, so really, really good.
Equity213
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada873 Posts
August 18 2012 23:22 GMT
#1324
On August 19 2012 08:21 TeslasPigeon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2012 08:16 Equity213 wrote:

Name me one other caster thats worse than Husky. Seriously... He is the lowest common denominator.


Kevin Knocke is platinum, also you don't need to be awesome at the game to be a decent caster and not every caster should strive to be an analyst (seeing how they all still make horrible calls and predictions).


ahh right, and total biscuit is like gold. Touche. I take that back.
TeslasPigeon
Profile Joined March 2012
464 Posts
August 18 2012 23:24 GMT
#1325
On August 19 2012 08:22 Equity213 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2012 08:21 TeslasPigeon wrote:
On August 19 2012 08:16 Equity213 wrote:

Name me one other caster thats worse than Husky. Seriously... He is the lowest common denominator.


Kevin Knocke is platinum, also you don't need to be awesome at the game to be a decent caster and not every caster should strive to be an analyst (seeing how they all still make horrible calls and predictions).


ahh right, and total biscuit is like gold. Touche. I take that back.


Yup and DJWheat is platinum as well. All four of the people we mentioned, or are talking about, are all decent casters.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
August 18 2012 23:24 GMT
#1326
On August 19 2012 08:20 Equity213 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2012 08:18 Gumbi wrote:
On August 19 2012 08:12 Equity213 wrote:
On August 19 2012 07:50 Gumbi wrote:
Husky is a great guy. I've always seen him as a genuine guy with a true passion for SC2. Got me into SC


Im not a fan of Husky, I will admit im biased. But answer me this: If he has such a true passion of SC2, why is his best race diamond level protoss?
If you cant put in the time to get into master league then do you really have a passion for the game?
I think Husky has a passion for being in the spotlight, not for the game.

Theres nothing wrong with being a noob, we all were once. But when I was, I wouldnt have been presumptious enough to want to cast MLG. Its really embarassing.

TLDR: im just a 'hater', disregard above statements

Perhaps he prefers to watch 1v1 than play it? Perphaps he prefers to play customs? On what basis do you claim (or at least, strongly imply) that he is not genuine, and instead prefers to in the spotlight?


My basis is his admitted league (what other measure of skill should I use?) compared to other people in his profession.

league ranking has NOTHING to do with passion for the game. they are completely unrelated.
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Equity213
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada873 Posts
August 18 2012 23:26 GMT
#1327
I suppose it all comes down to what you value in a caster. I think strategy should take precidence over explosions, hollering and yelling therefore I hate Husky. Thats an opinion. Bye.
Roachu
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden692 Posts
August 18 2012 23:26 GMT
#1328
On August 19 2012 08:20 Equity213 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2012 08:18 Gumbi wrote:
On August 19 2012 08:12 Equity213 wrote:
On August 19 2012 07:50 Gumbi wrote:
Husky is a great guy. I've always seen him as a genuine guy with a true passion for SC2. Got me into SC


Im not a fan of Husky, I will admit im biased. But answer me this: If he has such a true passion of SC2, why is his best race diamond level protoss?
If you cant put in the time to get into master league then do you really have a passion for the game?
I think Husky has a passion for being in the spotlight, not for the game.

Theres nothing wrong with being a noob, we all were once. But when I was, I wouldnt have been presumptious enough to want to cast MLG. Its really embarassing.

TLDR: im just a 'hater', disregard above statements

Perhaps he prefers to watch 1v1 than play it? Perphaps he prefers to play customs? On what basis do you claim (or at least, strongly imply) that he is not genuine, and instead prefers to in the spotlight?


My basis is his admitted league (what other measure of skill should I use?) compared to other people in his profession.

Oh please. First off all league-placement is only an indirect measure of skill (you can 6-pool your way to high master) but if you haven't noticed this guy devotes most of his time to this game and everything around it, which is a ton more than just playing the game. He's sustaining a youtube-channel with hundreds of thousands subscribers and is a frequent caster on many event. Yeah being "only diamond" makes him not devoted. Right gotcha.
Don't be asshats
TheSwamp
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1497 Posts
August 18 2012 23:27 GMT
#1329
Way to be a complete douche. Says some random shit, gets proven wrong, and leaves.

User was warned for this post
MLG: How is your Protoss? Idra: I make Blink Stalkers, so really, really good.
neurosx
Profile Joined August 2011
Luxembourg1096 Posts
August 18 2012 23:27 GMT
#1330
On August 19 2012 08:26 Equity213 wrote:
I suppose it all comes down to what you value in a caster. I think strategy should take precidence over explosions, hollering and yelling therefore I hate Husky. Thats an opinion. Bye.


Yeah so you're watching every event muted then ? Because the point of casters is to hype the fucking game not walk us through it who cares. Uh
You'll wish I'd never stooped to notice you.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
August 18 2012 23:29 GMT
#1331
On August 19 2012 08:26 Equity213 wrote:
I suppose it all comes down to what you value in a caster. I think strategy should take precidence over explosions, hollering and yelling therefore I hate Husky. Thats an opinion. Bye.


I suppose it comes down to you being kind of stupid right now. The man has invested his life into Starcraft, and he did that since long before he started getting paid for it. Enjoying the spotlight is nothing to be ashamed of, but I think shitting on a caster who has indeed spent a monstrous amount of time with the game and the community basing accusations on league ranking and false statements is.
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Gumbi
Profile Joined June 2012
Ireland463 Posts
August 18 2012 23:31 GMT
#1332
On August 19 2012 08:26 Equity213 wrote:
I suppose it all comes down to what you value in a caster. I think strategy should take precidence over explosions, hollering and yelling therefore I hate Husky. Thats an opinion. Bye.

Ah. Here you've changed what you've said as its been exposed as being inconsistent. You said he wasn't genuine and now you've backed away from that. Running away from the debate at this point betrays your inconsistent and baseless viewpoint.

As for what you've said here, I value Husky's genuiness. I like his shout-casting (though not too much of it). He's pretty funny, too.
JazzJackrabbit
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1272 Posts
August 18 2012 23:31 GMT
#1333
On August 19 2012 08:26 Equity213 wrote:
I suppose it all comes down to what you value in a caster. I think strategy should take precidence over explosions, hollering and yelling therefore I hate Husky. Thats an opinion. Bye.

Yeah well, Artosis thinks he's one of the best casters in the world. But like you said, it's your opinion. *shrug*
Gumbi
Profile Joined June 2012
Ireland463 Posts
August 18 2012 23:33 GMT
#1334
On August 19 2012 08:27 TheSwamp wrote:
Way to be a complete douche. Says some random shit, gets proven wrong, and leaves.

Precisely. Hit the nail on dah head dare, kid! (anyone get that reference :D)
ramask2
Profile Joined June 2011
Thailand1024 Posts
August 18 2012 23:41 GMT
#1335
Husky's greatest strength is adapting to fit with other casters. You can pretty much fit him with any analytical casters and the viewer experience will increase almost always. His own analytical ability is keeping up adequately as well.
Noobity
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States871 Posts
August 18 2012 23:51 GMT
#1336
On August 19 2012 08:26 Equity213 wrote:
I suppose it all comes down to what you value in a caster. I think strategy should take precidence over explosions, hollering and yelling therefore I hate Husky. Thats an opinion. Bye.


Your type of opinion doesn't bother me, but the way you attempt to get that opinion across does.

Analytic skill does not only come from the ability to do the work at the same, or near the same level as those you're analyzing. There are coaches of professional sports who never played those sports that the pro level. I'd say the position of coach is the single most analytic job attached to any sport. Your logic states, simply, that they should not have that position because they do not currently bend and shift to the current meta of their sport in practice.

There are plenty of reasons that those who can't do, will coach, or analyze, or teach. In starcraft, it could be time (where making a living making videos trumps spending the time to actively become good at the game) physical limitations (some people aren't and wont be fast enough to get to master league) or any other number of things (poor internet connection, a "real" job where you're working times that you're awake when nobody else is, etc.) However, none of those things mean that the person cannot watch videos, or replays and notice trends and patterns in the game. If you watch enough starcraft, you start to learn starcraft, and you learn to analyze it because physically nothing else you can do at that point. You can't, while watching to learn, immediately put those skills to use, and if you don't have the dexterity then you'll never be able to.

A man with no arms can still analyze enough baseball to provide insight into how it's played, that man will never play it in a pro, semi-pro, or even amateur stadium.

Finally; I'm getting a little tired of "I hit masters and I don't even try, huehuehuehuehuehue it's not hard at all" kind of comments. Fuck you and the horse you rode in on. Just because it wasn't difficult for you doesn't mean it's not difficult. This goes for each and every one of you who takes skill in something that many of us are struggling with for granted. I'm glad it's easy for you, quit saying it like it's a universal truth.
My name is Mike, and statistically, yours is not.
Gumbi
Profile Joined June 2012
Ireland463 Posts
August 18 2012 23:58 GMT
#1337
Moreover, difficult is a relative term.

Being my first proper RTS, it took me maybe 6 months to get to Master's. It takes quite some time to build up one's mechanics. People don't appreciate the level of play required to be in Master's. You need to play quite a bit of SC at the extension of other games (generally speaking). You are in the top 15 - 20 % of players you know....
Roachu
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden692 Posts
August 19 2012 06:29 GMT
#1338
"I hate Husky", I wonder what you do with your time if you actually find it in your heart to hate a person you don't know.
Don't be asshats
itmeJP
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1101 Posts
August 19 2012 07:11 GMT
#1339
Twitter.com/itmeJP -- Twitch.tv/itmeJP -- YouTube.com/itmeJP
Technique
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1542 Posts
August 19 2012 07:38 GMT
#1340
On August 19 2012 08:24 TeslasPigeon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2012 08:22 Equity213 wrote:
On August 19 2012 08:21 TeslasPigeon wrote:
On August 19 2012 08:16 Equity213 wrote:

Name me one other caster thats worse than Husky. Seriously... He is the lowest common denominator.


Kevin Knocke is platinum, also you don't need to be awesome at the game to be a decent caster and not every caster should strive to be an analyst (seeing how they all still make horrible calls and predictions).


ahh right, and total biscuit is like gold. Touche. I take that back.


Yup and DJWheat is platinum as well. All four of the people we mentioned, or are talking about, are all decent casters.

And they always need to be with someone who actually understands the game.

While someone like Artosis could solo cast.
If you think you're good, you suck. If you think you suck, you're getting better.
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