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Faust852
Luxembourg4004 Posts
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fuzzylogic44
Canada2633 Posts
On August 21 2012 06:53 Faust852 wrote: I thought DJWheat was master with at least. When he casts, I find he has a good insight. You can know a lot more about the game than you are able to apply when actually playing. I know I do. I can go on about fairly high level meta game stuff but when I'm on ladder in my gold league I'm just like DUUURRR MAKE UNITS ATTACK O DAMN HE HAS MORE SHIT | ||
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ShatterZer0
United States1843 Posts
My god... without Husky ESPORTS may have never gotten the kickstart that rocketed it up so high! | ||
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ProxyKnoxy
United Kingdom2576 Posts
On August 21 2012 07:00 fuzzylogic44 wrote: You can know a lot more about the game than you are able to apply when actually playing. I know I do. I can go on about fairly high level meta game stuff but when I'm on ladder in my gold league I'm just like DUUURRR MAKE UNITS ATTACK O DAMN HE HAS MORE SHIT I thought that in gold league aswell. I thought too highly of myself, and I think many gold leaguers think this. | ||
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Gumbi
Ireland463 Posts
On August 21 2012 07:06 ProxyKnoxy wrote: I thought that in gold league aswell. I thought too highly of myself, and I think many gold leaguers think this. I agree. To be honest, if you're in Gold, it's highly unlikely that you have high level meta insight. I'm a top 15 Master's player and I'd hesitate to say that about myself. Regarding Wheat being in Master's...lol :D He is a decent caster, but he has no insight whatsoever into the game apart from stating the obvious (albeit in an exciting fashion). | ||
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Gumbi
Ireland463 Posts
On August 21 2012 07:00 fuzzylogic44 wrote: You can know a lot more about the game than you are able to apply when actually playing. I know I do. I can go on about fairly high level meta game stuff but when I'm on ladder in my gold league I'm just like DUUURRR MAKE UNITS ATTACK O DAMN HE HAS MORE SHIT Nah. I think you think too highly of yourself :D Trust me, we always think too highly of ourselves. The better you get at SC the more you realise how bad you were not one month ago  | ||
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Klaws
Sweden5 Posts
On August 21 2012 07:31 Gumbi wrote: I agree. To be honest, if you're in Gold, it's highly unlikely that you have high level meta insight. I'm a top 15 Master's player and I'd hesitate to say that about myself. Regarding Wheat being in Master's...lol :D He is a decent caster, but he has no insight whatsoever into the game apart from stating the obvious (albeit in an exciting fashion). It's a balance between stating the obvious and analysing. Casting is not only about analysing everything every second. It's presenting a match and raising the stakes and telling a story thats both entertaining and interesting. This is something i think a lot of casters have yet to get. In my opinion theres only a handful of caster combinations that has really gotten the hang of how to cast a match professionally. In this perspective DJWheat is a professional, and has been one for a long time. His ladderranking dosent really matter as much in this sense. People need to stop look at casters from a high level gamers perspective. It's not all about the ladderer. It's also about your friend who is also watching, who never played Starcraft. | ||
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crms
United States11933 Posts
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Nimic
Norway1360 Posts
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Gumbi
Ireland463 Posts
On August 22 2012 01:04 Klaws wrote: It's a balance between stating the obvious and analysing. Casting is not only about analysing everything every second. It's presenting a match and raising the stakes and telling a story thats both entertaining and interesting. This is something i think a lot of casters have yet to get. In my opinion theres only a handful of caster combinations that has really gotten the hang of how to cast a match professionally. In this perspective DJWheat is a professional, and has been one for a long time. His ladderranking dosent really matter as much in this sense. People need to stop look at casters from a high level gamers perspective. It's not all about the ladderer. It's also about your friend who is also watching, who never played Starcraft. I know. I agree. I do think that some casters should study the game a bit more, so as to avoid saying stupid/incorrect things and/or contradicting their co-caster. | ||
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crms
United States11933 Posts
On August 22 2012 02:06 Nimic wrote: Who? the single greatest caster in all of esports, who headlines as the premiere dota 2 caster. | ||
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neurosx
Luxembourg1096 Posts
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WindWolf
Sweden11767 Posts
On August 22 2012 03:54 crms wrote: the single greatest caster in all of esports, who headlines as the premiere dota 2 caster. When I watched the DotA2 final on Swedish Television, Tobi's casting was amazing and informative, even for someone like me who only knows the very, very basics of Dota | ||
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Broodwurst
Germany1586 Posts
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Cuce
Turkey1127 Posts
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Jakkerr
Netherlands2549 Posts
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Slomo
Germany7198 Posts
On August 22 2012 05:48 Cuce wrote: oh god this is so bullshit... Can you explain? | ||
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BeanerBurrito
1010 Posts
I heard jp mention "first it was league of legends, then hon, now dota 2... so dota 2 is the new guy" and tobi mentioned that dota 1 was around years before league of legends, which made me so happy because most people tend not to realize that. | ||
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Cuce
Turkey1127 Posts
based on two things. one you need to unlock characters, and runes, which takes a relativelyt little amount of time, two riot is buying out tournaments and teams to play their own game instead of dota, or dota2 or hon (one is really old, second is not out yet, third never got really big). while it was valve who put 1 milyon dolars on a invitational tourney of a game thats never even in beta. Then went to rant on I have to be judged on my skill level not on MY WALLET!!! Lol requiers no skill!!! with little to no bases. all that happened about 15 minutes after he said "esports ghotta stick together we gotta keep as much games as possibble alive" sorry man I cant really see why he is one of the greatest, if not harmfull to, in esports | ||
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BeanerBurrito
1010 Posts
On August 22 2012 05:57 Cuce wrote: He is accusing a competator developer of herecy. based on two things. one you need to unlock characters, and runes, which takes a relativelyt little amount of time, two riot is buying out tournaments and teams to play their own game instead of dota, or dota2 or hon (one is really old, second is not out yet, third never got really big). while it was valve who put 1 milyon dolars on a invitational tourney of a game thats never even in beta. Then went to rant on I have to be judged on my skill level not on MY WALLET!!! Lol requiers no skill!!! with little to no bases. all that happened about 15 minutes after he said "esports ghotta stick together we gotta keep as much games as possibble alive" sorry man I cant really see why he is one of the greatest, if not harmfull to, in esports You missed the part where he said it was fine to like and enjoy league of legends, I think you're forgetting that again dota has had years longer history of competition than league of legends, and it is true that league of legends tournaments have been funded by riot, and it is very hard to argue that that isn't the main reason league was played in many tournaments. Dota 2 is not out yet, however the competitive scene of dota and therefore dota 2 has been existing, growing, and included in tournaments without a company backing it for many years before league of legends or hon or dota 2 was ever even thought of. | ||
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