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Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
August 20 2012 21:53 GMT
#1361
I thought DJWheat was master with at least. When he casts, I find he has a good insight.
fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
August 20 2012 22:00 GMT
#1362
On August 21 2012 06:53 Faust852 wrote:
I thought DJWheat was master with at least. When he casts, I find he has a good insight.


You can know a lot more about the game than you are able to apply when actually playing. I know I do. I can go on about fairly high level meta game stuff but when I'm on ladder in my gold league I'm just like DUUURRR MAKE UNITS ATTACK O DAMN HE HAS MORE SHIT
ShatterZer0
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1843 Posts
August 20 2012 22:03 GMT
#1363
No Husky no TLAF-Liquid?!?!?!

My god... without Husky ESPORTS may have never gotten the kickstart that rocketed it up so high!
A time to live.
ProxyKnoxy
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2576 Posts
August 20 2012 22:06 GMT
#1364
On August 21 2012 07:00 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 06:53 Faust852 wrote:
I thought DJWheat was master with at least. When he casts, I find he has a good insight.


You can know a lot more about the game than you are able to apply when actually playing. I know I do. I can go on about fairly high level meta game stuff but when I'm on ladder in my gold league I'm just like DUUURRR MAKE UNITS ATTACK O DAMN HE HAS MORE SHIT


I thought that in gold league aswell. I thought too highly of myself, and I think many gold leaguers think this.
"Zealot try give mariners high five. Mariners not like high five and try hide and shoot zealot"
Gumbi
Profile Joined June 2012
Ireland463 Posts
August 20 2012 22:31 GMT
#1365
On August 21 2012 07:06 ProxyKnoxy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 07:00 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
On August 21 2012 06:53 Faust852 wrote:
I thought DJWheat was master with at least. When he casts, I find he has a good insight.


You can know a lot more about the game than you are able to apply when actually playing. I know I do. I can go on about fairly high level meta game stuff but when I'm on ladder in my gold league I'm just like DUUURRR MAKE UNITS ATTACK O DAMN HE HAS MORE SHIT


I thought that in gold league aswell. I thought too highly of myself, and I think many gold leaguers think this.

I agree. To be honest, if you're in Gold, it's highly unlikely that you have high level meta insight. I'm a top 15 Master's player and I'd hesitate to say that about myself.

Regarding Wheat being in Master's...lol :D He is a decent caster, but he has no insight whatsoever into the game apart from stating the obvious (albeit in an exciting fashion).
Gumbi
Profile Joined June 2012
Ireland463 Posts
August 20 2012 22:33 GMT
#1366
On August 21 2012 07:00 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 06:53 Faust852 wrote:
I thought DJWheat was master with at least. When he casts, I find he has a good insight.


You can know a lot more about the game than you are able to apply when actually playing. I know I do. I can go on about fairly high level meta game stuff but when I'm on ladder in my gold league I'm just like DUUURRR MAKE UNITS ATTACK O DAMN HE HAS MORE SHIT

Nah. I think you think too highly of yourself :D Trust me, we always think too highly of ourselves. The better you get at SC the more you realise how bad you were not one month ago
Klaws
Profile Joined July 2012
Sweden5 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-21 16:08:19
August 21 2012 16:04 GMT
#1367
On August 21 2012 07:31 Gumbi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 07:06 ProxyKnoxy wrote:
On August 21 2012 07:00 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
On August 21 2012 06:53 Faust852 wrote:
I thought DJWheat was master with at least. When he casts, I find he has a good insight.


You can know a lot more about the game than you are able to apply when actually playing. I know I do. I can go on about fairly high level meta game stuff but when I'm on ladder in my gold league I'm just like DUUURRR MAKE UNITS ATTACK O DAMN HE HAS MORE SHIT


I thought that in gold league aswell. I thought too highly of myself, and I think many gold leaguers think this.

I agree. To be honest, if you're in Gold, it's highly unlikely that you have high level meta insight. I'm a top 15 Master's player and I'd hesitate to say that about myself.

Regarding Wheat being in Master's...lol :D He is a decent caster, but he has no insight whatsoever into the game apart from stating the obvious (albeit in an exciting fashion).


It's a balance between stating the obvious and analysing. Casting is not only about analysing everything every second. It's presenting a match and raising the stakes and telling a story thats both entertaining and interesting. This is something i think a lot of casters have yet to get. In my opinion theres only a handful of caster combinations that has really gotten the hang of how to cast a match professionally. In this perspective DJWheat is a professional, and has been one for a long time. His ladderranking dosent really matter as much in this sense.

People need to stop look at casters from a high level gamers perspective. It's not all about the ladderer. It's also about your friend who is also watching, who never played Starcraft.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
August 21 2012 16:31 GMT
#1368
cant wait for tobiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
Nimic
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway1360 Posts
August 21 2012 17:06 GMT
#1369
Who?
Gumbi
Profile Joined June 2012
Ireland463 Posts
August 21 2012 17:47 GMT
#1370
On August 22 2012 01:04 Klaws wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 07:31 Gumbi wrote:
On August 21 2012 07:06 ProxyKnoxy wrote:
On August 21 2012 07:00 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
On August 21 2012 06:53 Faust852 wrote:
I thought DJWheat was master with at least. When he casts, I find he has a good insight.


You can know a lot more about the game than you are able to apply when actually playing. I know I do. I can go on about fairly high level meta game stuff but when I'm on ladder in my gold league I'm just like DUUURRR MAKE UNITS ATTACK O DAMN HE HAS MORE SHIT


I thought that in gold league aswell. I thought too highly of myself, and I think many gold leaguers think this.

I agree. To be honest, if you're in Gold, it's highly unlikely that you have high level meta insight. I'm a top 15 Master's player and I'd hesitate to say that about myself.

Regarding Wheat being in Master's...lol :D He is a decent caster, but he has no insight whatsoever into the game apart from stating the obvious (albeit in an exciting fashion).


It's a balance between stating the obvious and analysing. Casting is not only about analysing everything every second. It's presenting a match and raising the stakes and telling a story thats both entertaining and interesting. This is something i think a lot of casters have yet to get. In my opinion theres only a handful of caster combinations that has really gotten the hang of how to cast a match professionally. In this perspective DJWheat is a professional, and has been one for a long time. His ladderranking dosent really matter as much in this sense.

People need to stop look at casters from a high level gamers perspective. It's not all about the ladderer. It's also about your friend who is also watching, who never played Starcraft.


I know. I agree.

I do think that some casters should study the game a bit more, so as to avoid saying stupid/incorrect things and/or contradicting their co-caster.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
August 21 2012 18:54 GMT
#1371
On August 22 2012 02:06 Nimic wrote:
Who?

the single greatest caster in all of esports, who headlines as the premiere dota 2 caster.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
neurosx
Profile Joined August 2011
Luxembourg1096 Posts
August 21 2012 19:49 GMT
#1372
Freaking love tobi <3
You'll wish I'd never stooped to notice you.
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
August 21 2012 19:54 GMT
#1373
On August 22 2012 03:54 crms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 02:06 Nimic wrote:
Who?

the single greatest caster in all of esports, who headlines as the premiere dota 2 caster.

When I watched the DotA2 final on Swedish Television, Tobi's casting was amazing and informative, even for someone like me who only knows the very, very basics of Dota
EZ4ENCE
Broodwurst
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1586 Posts
August 21 2012 20:40 GMT
#1374
I don't follow Dota so I didn't *really* know Tobi before, seems to be a fun and interesting guy though
Fanboys = (ウ╹◡╹)ウ /// I like smiley faces
Cuce
Profile Joined March 2011
Turkey1127 Posts
August 21 2012 20:48 GMT
#1375
oh god this is so bullshit...
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Jakkerr
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2549 Posts
August 21 2012 20:50 GMT
#1376
Tobi really is one of the greatest guys in E-sports.
Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
August 21 2012 20:52 GMT
#1377
On August 22 2012 05:48 Cuce wrote:
oh god this is so bullshit...

Can you explain?
RIP DOUBLE TI OG | #18 never forget
BeanerBurrito
Profile Joined December 2010
1010 Posts
August 21 2012 20:57 GMT
#1378
I love hearing tobi talk about dota and league of legends, first person i've heard on the esports community that shares my longterm view of aos'

I heard jp mention "first it was league of legends, then hon, now dota 2... so dota 2 is the new guy"

and tobi mentioned that dota 1 was around years before league of legends, which made me so happy because most people tend not to realize that.
What they say: "I'm gonna play support!" What they mean: "I'm gonna feed all game!"
Cuce
Profile Joined March 2011
Turkey1127 Posts
August 21 2012 20:57 GMT
#1379
He is accusing a competator developer of herecy.

based on two things. one you need to unlock characters, and runes, which takes a relativelyt little amount of time, two riot is buying out tournaments and teams to play their own game instead of dota, or dota2 or hon (one is really old, second is not out yet, third never got really big).
while it was valve who put 1 milyon dolars on a invitational tourney of a game thats never even in beta.
Then went to rant on I have to be judged on my skill level not on MY WALLET!!! Lol requiers no skill!!! with little to no bases.
all that happened about 15 minutes after he said "esports ghotta stick together we gotta keep as much games as possibble alive"

sorry man I cant really see why he is one of the greatest, if not harmfull to, in esports
64K RAM SYSTEM 38911 BASIC BYTES FREE
BeanerBurrito
Profile Joined December 2010
1010 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-21 21:02:23
August 21 2012 21:01 GMT
#1380
On August 22 2012 05:57 Cuce wrote:
He is accusing a competator developer of herecy.

based on two things. one you need to unlock characters, and runes, which takes a relativelyt little amount of time, two riot is buying out tournaments and teams to play their own game instead of dota, or dota2 or hon (one is really old, second is not out yet, third never got really big).
while it was valve who put 1 milyon dolars on a invitational tourney of a game thats never even in beta.
Then went to rant on I have to be judged on my skill level not on MY WALLET!!! Lol requiers no skill!!! with little to no bases.
all that happened about 15 minutes after he said "esports ghotta stick together we gotta keep as much games as possibble alive"

sorry man I cant really see why he is one of the greatest, if not harmfull to, in esports


You missed the part where he said it was fine to like and enjoy league of legends, I think you're forgetting that again dota has had years longer history of competition than league of legends, and it is true that league of legends tournaments have been funded by riot, and it is very hard to argue that that isn't the main reason league was played in many tournaments.

Dota 2 is not out yet, however the competitive scene of dota and therefore dota 2 has been existing, growing, and included in tournaments without a company backing it for many years before league of legends or hon or dota 2 was ever even thought of.
What they say: "I'm gonna play support!" What they mean: "I'm gonna feed all game!"
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