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IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
May 12 2012 19:29 GMT
#101
Lack of actions and very slow reactions in some common situations coupled with good strategic decisions and well above average macro, definetely flash.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
May 12 2012 19:33 GMT
#102
On May 13 2012 04:16 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 04:13 vnlegend wrote:
This is a pretty average level replay. KawaiiRice didn't even play that well. I lol'ed at all the praises in this thread. It's like watching Code B or lower level play.

Yea it's absolutely terrible that someone who just picked up the game is at Code B level and managed to beat a pro who has been playing since beta.

The fact that he is already at average level play IS what is impressive.


It's to be expected tbh, any korean BW pro should be able to get results like this just through their mechanics.
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Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
May 12 2012 19:40 GMT
#103
On May 13 2012 04:33 FliedLice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 04:16 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On May 13 2012 04:13 vnlegend wrote:
This is a pretty average level replay. KawaiiRice didn't even play that well. I lol'ed at all the praises in this thread. It's like watching Code B or lower level play.

Yea it's absolutely terrible that someone who just picked up the game is at Code B level and managed to beat a pro who has been playing since beta.

The fact that he is already at average level play IS what is impressive.


It's to be expected tbh, any korean BW pro should be able to get results like this just through their mechanics.

I would expect their mechanics to get them lowish masters maybe... I remember InDove when he first started at Sc2 only go to diamond on Korea with his mechanics.

Beating a pro who has been playing since beta after playing for what? 4 weeks? Yea he played a bit when he was in rehab but thats not training thats fucking around plus he probably couldn't play much then due to his wrists.... Either way, the fact he has a +50% win rate fairly high masters on Korea in this short of a time IMO is damn impressive.
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Robinsa
Profile Joined May 2009
Japan1333 Posts
May 12 2012 19:40 GMT
#104
On May 13 2012 01:38 OutOfMyMind_pro wrote:
Please keep all the Flash stuff in one thread.

Are you serious ? Then we would have to merge half of all threads we have on TL.
4649!!
Archybaldie
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom818 Posts
May 12 2012 20:10 GMT
#105
11:27 engagement.

KawaiiRice has 42 marines with +1, stim and combat shield
2 medivacs

Total marine health when full = 2310
Total potential dps when stimmed = 512.4
Healing per second = 18

"possibly" Flash has 31 marines +1 stim no combat shield and a tank without seige mode.
4 medivacs

Total marine/tank health when full = 1555
Total potential dps when stimmed (inc tank) = 392.6
HP/S = 36

After the battle with micro/positioning the final result.

KawaiiRice: 3 marines, 2 medivacs
Possibly flash: 9 marines 4 medivacs 1 tank

The way he positioned that fight is one of the most impressive things i've seen in a while.
I'm in the bubblewrap league ... i just keep getting popped
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
May 12 2012 20:13 GMT
#106
On May 13 2012 04:40 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 04:33 FliedLice wrote:
On May 13 2012 04:16 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On May 13 2012 04:13 vnlegend wrote:
This is a pretty average level replay. KawaiiRice didn't even play that well. I lol'ed at all the praises in this thread. It's like watching Code B or lower level play.

Yea it's absolutely terrible that someone who just picked up the game is at Code B level and managed to beat a pro who has been playing since beta.

The fact that he is already at average level play IS what is impressive.


It's to be expected tbh, any korean BW pro should be able to get results like this just through their mechanics.

I would expect their mechanics to get them lowish masters maybe... I remember InDove when he first started at Sc2 only go to diamond on Korea with his mechanics.

Beating a pro who has been playing since beta after playing for what? 4 weeks? Yea he played a bit when he was in rehab but thats not training thats fucking around plus he probably couldn't play much then due to his wrists.... Either way, the fact he has a +50% win rate fairly high masters on Korea in this short of a time IMO is damn impressive.

Didn't Flash get into masters during the rehab training period though?
dgwow
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1024 Posts
May 12 2012 20:15 GMT
#107
On May 13 2012 01:08 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Simply insane that he can beat a well established pro like KawaiiRice after only a few months with the game.


KawaiiRice... well established pro LOL
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WniO
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2706 Posts
May 12 2012 20:16 GMT
#108
On May 13 2012 05:10 Archybaldie wrote:
11:27 engagement.

KawaiiRice has 42 marines with +1, stim and combat shield
2 medivacs

Total marine health when full = 2310
Total potential dps when stimmed = 512.4
Healing per second = 18

"possibly" Flash has 31 marines +1 stim no combat shield and a tank without seige mode.
4 medivacs

Total marine/tank health when full = 1555
Total potential dps when stimmed (inc tank) = 392.6
HP/S = 36

After the battle with micro/positioning the final result.

KawaiiRice: 3 marines, 2 medivacs
Possibly flash: 9 marines 4 medivacs 1 tank

The way he positioned that fight is one of the most impressive things i've seen in a while.

yeah that was crazy, it seemed like every action had a purpose and he was macroing o.O
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
May 12 2012 20:17 GMT
#109
On May 13 2012 05:10 Archybaldie wrote:
11:27 engagement.

KawaiiRice has 42 marines with +1, stim and combat shield
2 medivacs

Total marine health when full = 2310
Total potential dps when stimmed = 512.4
Healing per second = 18

"possibly" Flash has 31 marines +1 stim no combat shield and a tank without seige mode.
4 medivacs

Total marine/tank health when full = 1555
Total potential dps when stimmed (inc tank) = 392.6
HP/S = 36

After the battle with micro/positioning the final result.

KawaiiRice: 3 marines, 2 medivacs
Possibly flash: 9 marines 4 medivacs 1 tank

The way he positioned that fight is one of the most impressive things i've seen in a while.






rofl

flash <3
CrtBalorda
Profile Joined December 2011
Slovenia704 Posts
May 12 2012 20:17 GMT
#110
I thought kawaii rice was protoss lol
But anyway, I liked the agro from flash, seemed like he wasnt afraid of anything.

Other then that, I want the game harder, and this is probably sc2s best chance at getting harder, cuz bw pros swich and they are good players but really arnt at the level they could be in bw. And blizzard sees that and makes the game harder.

But most likely they will just add stuff to the game for casual gamers, cuz thairs more of them

But I can dream cant I.
4th August 2012...Never forget.....
dgwow
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1024 Posts
May 12 2012 20:26 GMT
#111
On May 13 2012 02:11 sAsThark wrote:
I have a proof it's not Flash

[image loading]

As you can see, it's a human, not God


Actually your software is faulty
Don't let those anti-cheese advocates tell you what to do. Rush to meet life head on!
Garmer
Profile Joined October 2010
1286 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-12 20:29:13
May 12 2012 20:26 GMT
#112
On May 13 2012 05:16 WniO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 05:10 Archybaldie wrote:
11:27 engagement.

KawaiiRice has 42 marines with +1, stim and combat shield
2 medivacs

Total marine health when full = 2310
Total potential dps when stimmed = 512.4
Healing per second = 18

"possibly" Flash has 31 marines +1 stim no combat shield and a tank without seige mode.
4 medivacs

Total marine/tank health when full = 1555
Total potential dps when stimmed (inc tank) = 392.6
HP/S = 36

After the battle with micro/positioning the final result.

KawaiiRice: 3 marines, 2 medivacs
Possibly flash: 9 marines 4 medivacs 1 tank

The way he positioned that fight is one of the most impressive things i've seen in a while.

yeah that was crazy, it seemed like every action had a purpose and he was macroing o.O

yeah i have noticed that too, the way in which he was coordinating his army is not common to see, there was something awesome in his units control
Skaminator
Profile Joined October 2011
112 Posts
May 12 2012 20:29 GMT
#113
On May 13 2012 05:13 Cokefreak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 04:40 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On May 13 2012 04:33 FliedLice wrote:
On May 13 2012 04:16 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On May 13 2012 04:13 vnlegend wrote:
This is a pretty average level replay. KawaiiRice didn't even play that well. I lol'ed at all the praises in this thread. It's like watching Code B or lower level play.

Yea it's absolutely terrible that someone who just picked up the game is at Code B level and managed to beat a pro who has been playing since beta.

The fact that he is already at average level play IS what is impressive.


It's to be expected tbh, any korean BW pro should be able to get results like this just through their mechanics.

I would expect their mechanics to get them lowish masters maybe... I remember InDove when he first started at Sc2 only go to diamond on Korea with his mechanics.

Beating a pro who has been playing since beta after playing for what? 4 weeks? Yea he played a bit when he was in rehab but thats not training thats fucking around plus he probably couldn't play much then due to his wrists.... Either way, the fact he has a +50% win rate fairly high masters on Korea in this short of a time IMO is damn impressive.

Didn't Flash get into masters during the rehab training period though?


He did, and he said that it was much easier than it was now. But right after he got masters he stopped playing because of PL
Sylverin
Profile Joined February 2011
United States480 Posts
May 12 2012 20:33 GMT
#114
On May 13 2012 05:26 Garmer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 05:16 WniO wrote:
On May 13 2012 05:10 Archybaldie wrote:
11:27 engagement.

KawaiiRice has 42 marines with +1, stim and combat shield
2 medivacs

Total marine health when full = 2310
Total potential dps when stimmed = 512.4
Healing per second = 18

"possibly" Flash has 31 marines +1 stim no combat shield and a tank without seige mode.
4 medivacs

Total marine/tank health when full = 1555
Total potential dps when stimmed (inc tank) = 392.6
HP/S = 36

After the battle with micro/positioning the final result.

KawaiiRice: 3 marines, 2 medivacs
Possibly flash: 9 marines 4 medivacs 1 tank

The way he positioned that fight is one of the most impressive things i've seen in a while.

yeah that was crazy, it seemed like every action had a purpose and he was macroing o.O

yeah i have noticed that too, the way in which he was coordinating his army is not common to see, there was something awesome in his units control

My favorite part is that he almost never sieged even when it was kinda needed to win he just had so much stuff x.x i think he only stopped making marines for maybe a total of 4 seconds all game absolutely perfect macro
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Full.tilt
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom1709 Posts
May 12 2012 20:43 GMT
#115
Disappointing there's only 4 youtube commentaries of this game so far
ShaPeLesS
Profile Joined September 2010
Bulgaria87 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-12 20:49:54
May 12 2012 20:49 GMT
#116
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 13 2012 05:26 Garmer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 05:16 WniO wrote:
On May 13 2012 05:10 Archybaldie wrote:
11:27 engagement.

KawaiiRice has 42 marines with +1, stim and combat shield
2 medivacs

Total marine health when full = 2310
Total potential dps when stimmed = 512.4
Healing per second = 18

"possibly" Flash has 31 marines +1 stim no combat shield and a tank without seige mode.
4 medivacs

Total marine/tank health when full = 1555
Total potential dps when stimmed (inc tank) = 392.6
HP/S = 36

After the battle with micro/positioning the final result.

KawaiiRice: 3 marines, 2 medivacs
Possibly flash: 9 marines 4 medivacs 1 tank

The way he positioned that fight is one of the most impressive things i've seen in a while.

yeah that was crazy, it seemed like every action had a purpose and he was macroing o.O

yeah i have noticed that too, the way in which he was coordinating his army is not common to see, there was something awesome in his units control


Am I missing something? All I saw was Kawaii trying to attack up a narrow choke and Flash having a better arc with his army. I know everyone is excited to see Flash playing SC2, but come on, there was nothing impressive in what he did. If anything, it just shows what a bad decision Kawaii made.
"Nothing is true, everything is permitted"
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-12 21:37:39
May 12 2012 21:32 GMT
#117
On May 13 2012 05:49 ShaPeLesS wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 13 2012 05:26 Garmer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 05:16 WniO wrote:
On May 13 2012 05:10 Archybaldie wrote:
11:27 engagement.

KawaiiRice has 42 marines with +1, stim and combat shield
2 medivacs

Total marine health when full = 2310
Total potential dps when stimmed = 512.4
Healing per second = 18

"possibly" Flash has 31 marines +1 stim no combat shield and a tank without seige mode.
4 medivacs

Total marine/tank health when full = 1555
Total potential dps when stimmed (inc tank) = 392.6
HP/S = 36

After the battle with micro/positioning the final result.

KawaiiRice: 3 marines, 2 medivacs
Possibly flash: 9 marines 4 medivacs 1 tank

The way he positioned that fight is one of the most impressive things i've seen in a while.

yeah that was crazy, it seemed like every action had a purpose and he was macroing o.O

yeah i have noticed that too, the way in which he was coordinating his army is not common to see, there was something awesome in his units control


Am I missing something? All I saw was Kawaii trying to attack up a narrow choke and Flash having a better arc with his army. I know everyone is excited to see Flash playing SC2, but come on, there was nothing impressive in what he did. If anything, it just shows what a bad decision Kawaii made.

No they are right, the other Terran achieved a hell lot more with his actions compared to what you normally see, some of the shit he did blew my mind. And this is regardless if he Flash or not.

Also notice how the entire game is very starcraft1 like, there are many small battles taking place instead of of 1 huge battle and when one side loses he gets rolled over. Interesting to see
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Thylacine
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden882 Posts
May 12 2012 21:56 GMT
#118
link his fb please
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45275 Posts
May 12 2012 21:59 GMT
#119
On May 13 2012 01:08 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Simply insane that he can beat a well established pro like KawaiiRice after only a few months with the game.


There are already vods posted in other threads of Flash beating players better than KawaiiRice... no offense to KR >.>

But I agree that Flash beating good players after such a short amount of time is a good sign!
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Bareleon
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
371 Posts
May 12 2012 22:19 GMT
#120
On May 13 2012 06:59 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 01:08 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Simply insane that he can beat a well established pro like KawaiiRice after only a few months with the game.


There are already vods posted in other threads of Flash beating players better than KawaiiRice... no offense to KR >.>

But I agree that Flash beating good players after such a short amount of time is a good sign!


Link please???
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