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TheWorldToCome
Profile Joined January 2012
United States452 Posts
May 12 2012 18:02 GMT
#81
On May 13 2012 01:56 phyren wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 01:21 iAmJeffReY wrote:
lol Was this after the 45 or so minute TvP KRice played where the epic nuke killed the protoss entire army?
He still had very good mechanics, he just wasent known for being fast if you compaire him to jaedong for instance. Does not mean he was this slow


...236 apm is not at all slow...


gotta remember this is in blizzard time. Idk the exact conversion, but this is pretty fast. Flash wasn't known for being slow in BW. Stork and Savior were considered the outliers for slow players who could still dominate, and they both had well over 200 real time apm.


Blizz, in all their wisdom mixed up their in game APM/eAPM around.

To find out your APM, you take the in game "eAPM" and times it by 1.38 and that gets your APM in normal time.

EX. My eAPM in a replay is 150 x 1.38 = 207 APM

Starcraft 2 was designed to have a best race. You play the worst one.
cactusjack914
Profile Joined March 2011
United States183 Posts
May 12 2012 18:07 GMT
#82

No, when you ask a BW player bout hotkeys there talking about the controll group keys. This is a thing that is kinda uniqe for most player.


LOL, he actually meant that he uses M for marine, like in bw. Not 1 for army, etc.
"starcraft isn't a hobby, its a lifestyle."
dsousa
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1363 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-12 18:12:24
May 12 2012 18:10 GMT
#83
Kawaii was ahead in upgrades, but Flash used his medivacs expertly. Reminded me of how MKP does it a bit.

They had basically the same army composition, except Flash had 4+ extra medivacs and lost very few of them.
WniO
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2706 Posts
May 12 2012 18:11 GMT
#84
the reapers did too much damage to someone like flash, but tbh the macro and engagements later were pretty impressive.
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
May 12 2012 18:16 GMT
#85
On May 13 2012 01:40 starcraft911 wrote:
I watched the replay and it looked like 2 1k level AM masters playing. Flash's APM was pretty low, but that doesn't mean it's not him. The thing that I noticed that made me think it was him is that he hotkeyed his fac and port separate from the raxes. From the interview flash said he kept his hotkeys from bw.

Flash APM was never maent to be high, however his efficiency is astonishing its only 20% redundancy which i doubt any 1k level master have.
Stork[gm]
one-one-one
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden551 Posts
May 12 2012 18:18 GMT
#86
L O L at all the people discussing apm.

Even if the player had super high apm it wouldn't mean that it was Flash.
If something , this is a good example how little apm matters.

The implication only goes one way.

High level play -> high apm
High apm does not imply high level play

What is important is the obvious similarities between the replay and the FPVOD.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1BFY4R7IIP4#t=1710s
skatblast
Profile Joined September 2011
United States784 Posts
May 12 2012 18:21 GMT
#87
very nice thanks
calvinL
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada416 Posts
May 12 2012 18:26 GMT
#88
On May 13 2012 02:55 Aunvilgod wrote:
Does anybody else think he is surprisingly aggressive?


Despite people calling Flash a turtle terran, he has also been the most successful aggressive terran for the past two years. He can pretty much play any style and still win.

BlueLanterna
Profile Joined April 2011
291 Posts
May 12 2012 18:32 GMT
#89
On May 13 2012 03:26 calvinL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 02:55 Aunvilgod wrote:
Does anybody else think he is surprisingly aggressive?


Despite people calling Flash a turtle terran, he has also been the most successful aggressive terran for the past two years. He can pretty much play any style and still win.



In the interview thread, he even said that marines and marauders fit his style. It would be very weird to see a player who favored bio to be turtling all that much.
Ace1123
Profile Joined September 2011
Philippines1187 Posts
May 12 2012 18:43 GMT
#90
Flash is good! I recognize his hotkeys so quite sure it is him
ForGG, Mvp, MMA, MarineKing, BoxeR,
trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
May 12 2012 18:47 GMT
#91
On May 13 2012 02:55 Aunvilgod wrote:
Does anybody else think he is surprisingly aggressive?


Not surprising in the least. He is ALSO known for his "imba" scans and simply rolling out at tight timings to outright kill his opponents.
Warpath
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1242 Posts
May 12 2012 18:57 GMT
#92
It was the same Flash that lastshadow tweeted about, comparing the game histories.
Kinky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States4126 Posts
May 12 2012 19:05 GMT
#93
The hotkeys definitely seem to be the same as the ones from his FPVOD videos. Highly likely that this is Flash
vnlegend
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1389 Posts
May 12 2012 19:13 GMT
#94
This is a pretty average level replay. KawaiiRice didn't even play that well. I lol'ed at all the praises in this thread. It's like watching Code B or lower level play.
Marines > everything
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6667 Posts
May 12 2012 19:16 GMT
#95
On May 13 2012 04:13 vnlegend wrote:
This is a pretty average level replay. KawaiiRice didn't even play that well. I lol'ed at all the praises in this thread. It's like watching Code B or lower level play.

Yea it's absolutely terrible that someone who just picked up the game is at Code B level and managed to beat a pro who has been playing since beta.

The fact that he is already at average level play IS what is impressive.
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EonuS
Profile Joined July 2010
Slovenia186 Posts
May 12 2012 19:20 GMT
#96
On May 13 2012 04:13 vnlegend wrote:
This is a pretty average level replay. KawaiiRice didn't even play that well. I lol'ed at all the praises in this thread. It's like watching Code B or lower level play.


yeah, I mean what is going on, we live in a world where we can download skills immediately into our brains and be fully compactible with them. Flash has disgraced the entire korea by not immediately being the best terran on world

your expectations are way too high
BlazeFury01
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1460 Posts
May 12 2012 19:22 GMT
#97
On May 13 2012 01:39 Whatson wrote:
I really like how Flash's APM rose from like 50 to 250 by the end of the game.


That's definitely how Flashes APM works. Even in Brood War his APM always started out incredibly low and gradually increased until the end of the game.
Xyst
Profile Joined April 2012
Turkey66 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-12 19:34:15
May 12 2012 19:26 GMT
#98
On May 13 2012 04:20 EonuS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 04:13 vnlegend wrote:
This is a pretty average level replay. KawaiiRice didn't even play that well. I lol'ed at all the praises in this thread. It's like watching Code B or lower level play.


yeah, I mean what is going on, we live in a world where we can download skills immediately into our brains and be fully compactible with them. Flash has disgraced the entire korea by not immediately being the best terran on world

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anyway, %100 supporting your post.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=330806&currentpage=57#1139
Sylverin
Profile Joined February 2011
United States480 Posts
May 12 2012 19:28 GMT
#99
On May 13 2012 04:13 vnlegend wrote:
This is a pretty average level replay. KawaiiRice didn't even play that well. I lol'ed at all the praises in this thread. It's like watching Code B or lower level play.

after playing for 4 weeks thats pretty good I would say...-.- Why do you care if we are so excited it's not everyday you see a god lighten up broski
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Bareleon
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
371 Posts
May 12 2012 19:29 GMT
#100
Wow. "Flash" if it is him, made Kawiirice look like a noob lol.

Just imagine how good he will be with more practice.
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