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On May 13 2012 01:56 phyren wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2012 01:21 iAmJeffReY wrote:lol Was this after the 45 or so minute TvP KRice played where the epic nuke killed the protoss entire army? He still had very good mechanics, he just wasent known for being fast if you compaire him to jaedong for instance. Does not mean he was this slow ...236 apm is not at all slow... gotta remember this is in blizzard time. Idk the exact conversion, but this is pretty fast. Flash wasn't known for being slow in BW. Stork and Savior were considered the outliers for slow players who could still dominate, and they both had well over 200 real time apm.
Blizz, in all their wisdom mixed up their in game APM/eAPM around.
To find out your APM, you take the in game "eAPM" and times it by 1.38 and that gets your APM in normal time.
EX. My eAPM in a replay is 150 x 1.38 = 207 APM
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United States183 Posts
No, when you ask a BW player bout hotkeys there talking about the controll group keys. This is a thing that is kinda uniqe for most player.
LOL, he actually meant that he uses M for marine, like in bw. Not 1 for army, etc.
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Kawaii was ahead in upgrades, but Flash used his medivacs expertly. Reminded me of how MKP does it a bit.
They had basically the same army composition, except Flash had 4+ extra medivacs and lost very few of them.
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the reapers did too much damage to someone like flash, but tbh the macro and engagements later were pretty impressive.
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On May 13 2012 01:40 starcraft911 wrote:
I watched the replay and it looked like 2 1k level AM masters playing. Flash's APM was pretty low, but that doesn't mean it's not him. The thing that I noticed that made me think it was him is that he hotkeyed his fac and port separate from the raxes. From the interview flash said he kept his hotkeys from bw.
Flash APM was never maent to be high, however his efficiency is astonishing its only 20% redundancy which i doubt any 1k level master have.
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L O L at all the people discussing apm.
Even if the player had super high apm it wouldn't mean that it was Flash.
If something , this is a good example how little apm matters.
The implication only goes one way.
High level play -> high apm
High apm does not imply high level play
What is important is the obvious similarities between the replay and the FPVOD.
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On May 13 2012 02:55 Aunvilgod wrote:
Does anybody else think he is surprisingly aggressive?
Despite people calling Flash a turtle terran, he has also been the most successful aggressive terran for the past two years. He can pretty much play any style and still win.
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On May 13 2012 03:26 calvinL wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2012 02:55 Aunvilgod wrote:
Does anybody else think he is surprisingly aggressive? Despite people calling Flash a turtle terran, he has also been the most successful aggressive terran for the past two years. He can pretty much play any style and still win.
In the interview thread, he even said that marines and marauders fit his style. It would be very weird to see a player who favored bio to be turtling all that much.
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Flash is good! I recognize his hotkeys so quite sure it is him
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On May 13 2012 02:55 Aunvilgod wrote:
Does anybody else think he is surprisingly aggressive?
Not surprising in the least. He is ALSO known for his "imba" scans and simply rolling out at tight timings to outright kill his opponents.
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It was the same Flash that lastshadow tweeted about, comparing the game histories.
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The hotkeys definitely seem to be the same as the ones from his FPVOD videos. Highly likely that this is Flash 
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This is a pretty average level replay. KawaiiRice didn't even play that well. I lol'ed at all the praises in this thread. It's like watching Code B or lower level play.
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On May 13 2012 04:13 vnlegend wrote:
This is a pretty average level replay. KawaiiRice didn't even play that well. I lol'ed at all the praises in this thread. It's like watching Code B or lower level play.
Yea it's absolutely terrible that someone who just picked up the game is at Code B level and managed to beat a pro who has been playing since beta.
The fact that he is already at average level play IS what is impressive.
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On May 13 2012 04:13 vnlegend wrote:
This is a pretty average level replay. KawaiiRice didn't even play that well. I lol'ed at all the praises in this thread. It's like watching Code B or lower level play.
yeah, I mean what is going on, we live in a world where we can download skills immediately into our brains and be fully compactible with them. Flash has disgraced the entire korea by not immediately being the best terran on world
your expectations are way too high
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On May 13 2012 01:39 Whatson wrote:
I really like how Flash's APM rose from like 50 to 250 by the end of the game.
That's definitely how Flashes APM works. Even in Brood War his APM always started out incredibly low and gradually increased until the end of the game.
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On May 13 2012 04:20 EonuS wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2012 04:13 vnlegend wrote:
This is a pretty average level replay. KawaiiRice didn't even play that well. I lol'ed at all the praises in this thread. It's like watching Code B or lower level play. yeah, I mean what is going on, we live in a world where we can download skills immediately into our brains and be fully compactible with them. Flash has disgraced the entire korea by not immediately being the best terran on world
- I know Kung Fu.
- Show Me
anyway, %100 supporting your post.
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On May 13 2012 04:13 vnlegend wrote:
This is a pretty average level replay. KawaiiRice didn't even play that well. I lol'ed at all the praises in this thread. It's like watching Code B or lower level play.
after playing for 4 weeks thats pretty good I would say...-.- Why do you care if we are so excited it's not everyday you see a god  lighten up broski
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Wow. "Flash" if it is him, made Kawiirice look like a noob lol.
Just imagine how good he will be with more practice.
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