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c78331
Profile Joined November 2011
Greece64 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-12 16:47:05
May 12 2012 16:44 GMT
#41
On May 13 2012 01:40 starcraft911 wrote:
I watched the replay and it looked like 2 1k level AM masters playing. Flash's APM was pretty low, but that doesn't mean it's not him. The thing that I noticed that made me think it was him is that he hotkeyed his fac and port separate from the raxes. From the interview flash said he kept his hotkeys from bw.

His eapm was 186 and krice's was 174(with 2.5times flash's redundancy),i 'd say he is pretty fast he just has the lowest spam ratio i have seen.
one-one-one
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden551 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-12 16:48:02
May 12 2012 16:46 GMT
#42
On May 13 2012 01:40 starcraft911 wrote:
I watched the replay and it looked like 2 1k level AM masters playing. Flash's APM was pretty low, but that doesn't mean it's not him. The thing that I noticed that made me think it was him is that he hotkeyed his fac and port separate from the raxes. From the interview flash said he kept his hotkeys from bw.


At a glance it may look like that.

Trust me, I'm a master league terran.
The mechanics of Kawaii's opponent is super solid.
A lot better than the players I would face on ladder , LOL.

See my post above for a more detailed analysis of why it most likely IS Flash.

edit: It is funny that people are more obsessed about apm and eapm than actually looking at what is important.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1BFY4R7IIP4#t=1710s
KawaiiRice
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2914 Posts
May 12 2012 16:46 GMT
#43
lol a whole thread dedicated to one replay >_> OO
@KawaiiRiceLighT
xelnaga_empire
Profile Joined March 2012
627 Posts
May 12 2012 16:47 GMT
#44
Just a few observations:

1) Flash mis-rallied several troops to the right side during his first push on Kawaiirice. I believe he intended to rally them to the left side where he was attacking.

2) Flash supply blocks himself multiple times during the game.

Some people say SC2 has a skillcap ceiling compared to BW. Granted Flash is new to SC2 and is not used to the game and interface, I doubt any pro, Flash included, will ever hit SC2's skillcap ceiling.
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6667 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-12 16:48:30
May 12 2012 16:47 GMT
#45
On May 13 2012 01:40 starcraft911 wrote:
I watched the replay and it looked like 2 1k level AM masters playing. Flash's APM was pretty low, but that doesn't mean it's not him. The thing that I noticed that made me think it was him is that he hotkeyed his fac and port separate from the raxes. From the interview flash said he kept his hotkeys from bw.

Edit: Wow apparently I missed a whole bunch of stuff. Gonna re watch then give my two cents
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
Ryps
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania2740 Posts
May 12 2012 16:48 GMT
#46
On May 13 2012 01:36 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 01:33 A-p-p-l-e-s wrote:
On May 13 2012 01:14 BumsenDK wrote:
40 apm flash.. seems unlikely.

maybe he is playing sc1 at the same time? : )

Or with just 1 hand? HMM.

While drinking some Pocari Sweat and ajusting the keyboard with a ruler.
Synche
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1345 Posts
May 12 2012 16:48 GMT
#47
On May 13 2012 01:46 KawaiiRice wrote:
lol a whole thread dedicated to one replay >_> OO


It's God's replay.
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
May 12 2012 16:50 GMT
#48
On May 13 2012 01:46 KawaiiRice wrote:
lol a whole thread dedicated to one replay >_> OO

You're famous now ^ ^




Tee hee hee <3
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
OopsOopsBaby
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Singapore3425 Posts
May 12 2012 16:50 GMT
#49
he always have around 0-50 apm at the start of the game even in pro games because of drinking pocari sweat and measuring with his ruler.
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FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
May 12 2012 16:53 GMT
#50
On May 13 2012 01:48 SimDawg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 01:46 KawaiiRice wrote:
lol a whole thread dedicated to one replay >_> OO


It's God's replay.


It's a replay.
Kevmeister @ Dota2
ROOTIllusion
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1060 Posts
May 12 2012 16:53 GMT
#51
gg god =]
www.twitter.com/rootillusion & www.facebook.com/illusionsc2
Diizzy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States828 Posts
May 12 2012 16:55 GMT
#52
vods would be nice...
phyren
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1067 Posts
May 12 2012 16:56 GMT
#53
On May 13 2012 01:21 iAmJeffReY wrote:
lol Was this after the 45 or so minute TvP KRice played where the epic nuke killed the protoss entire army?
Show nested quote +
He still had very good mechanics, he just wasent known for being fast if you compaire him to jaedong for instance. Does not mean he was this slow


...236 apm is not at all slow...


gotta remember this is in blizzard time. Idk the exact conversion, but this is pretty fast. Flash wasn't known for being slow in BW. Stork and Savior were considered the outliers for slow players who could still dominate, and they both had well over 200 real time apm.
zezamer
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland5701 Posts
May 12 2012 16:58 GMT
#54
Isn't 186 eapm with 20% redundancy kinda good.

Like MKP vs Thorzain MLG winter champ 20min game on Shakuras
MKP 183 with 27%
Thorzain 136 , 17%
0kz
Profile Joined January 2010
Italy1118 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-12 17:01:37
May 12 2012 16:58 GMT
#55
On May 13 2012 01:53 FliedLice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 01:48 SimDawg wrote:
On May 13 2012 01:46 KawaiiRice wrote:
lol a whole thread dedicated to one replay >_> OO


It's God's replay.


It's a replay.


that show us God playing!...seriously now stop pretending this is not important.. its hugeee.. it could be the first replay of one of the best players ever in the history of rts games (if not the best.. ) playing sc2.
raf3776
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1904 Posts
May 12 2012 17:07 GMT
#56
idk why everyone is talking about apm. It is still a new game to flash so his apm isnt as high as it will be when he gets better at it. i just wanna know how kawaii knew it was flash
WWJD (What Would Jaedong Do)
sAsThark
Profile Joined September 2011
France27 Posts
May 12 2012 17:11 GMT
#57
I have a proof it's not Flash

[image loading]

As you can see, it's a human, not God
http://fedoraproject.org/
Sacrilege
Profile Joined December 2011
United States199 Posts
May 12 2012 17:12 GMT
#58
Very nice replay to watch. I enjoyed it!
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0ne
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Spain2464 Posts
May 12 2012 17:13 GMT
#59
gg god
calgar
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1277 Posts
May 12 2012 17:16 GMT
#60
Great rep to watch. His mechanics are so solid already, he's got a wonderful foundation to build on. Its crazy to think how much room for improvement there is with a little touchup like better supply timings, 3 scvs queued, faster upgrades etc. Sky's the limit here I think. The engagement at the end was beautiful positioning wise. Stim in, do damage, pull out right as the tanks get sieged, then disengage and kill the third.
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