Keep thinking this is a new patch >_<
Wasn't there designated balance thread for whining or something?
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
May 24 2012 10:33 GMT
#1781
Keep thinking this is a new patch >_< Wasn't there designated balance thread for whining or something? | ||
avilo
United States4100 Posts
May 24 2012 10:37 GMT
#1782
On May 24 2012 00:21 s3rp wrote: Show nested quote + On May 24 2012 00:13 Shiori wrote: On May 23 2012 23:56 Dalavita wrote: On May 23 2012 23:52 NexUmbra wrote: On May 23 2012 23:19 thepeonwhocould wrote: On May 23 2012 22:34 jdsowa wrote: T players who keep building up a late game army of T1 bio against T2/T3 gas-heavy AOE P max army are like the lab rat that continues to push the button and shock itself even after the food stops coming. Starcraft 2 is designed in such a way that expensive units beat less expensive units, and AOE--because of its cost effectiveness--is essential late game. Though I fear that once T players finally figure this out in a month or two, that there will be some other group of people whining about something. This is an incredibly tiresome aspect of following this game. There are people who are earning a living from this game. There are hundreads of terran players in korea and around the world who's salaries depend on them being good at this game. If terran had a viable late game unit composition other than bio, don't you think those people who have been playing this game for 2 years and are paid money to be GOOD at this game would have discovered it by now? Did you see what happened when MvP got 3-3 battle cruisers? They fought at 200 suply each. After the battle, MvP had 90 supply, and Squirtle had 200 supply. That's what happens when terran gets their "T3 gas heavy army". Do you have any idea how egotistical it is for you to state that terrans are loosing because they are not building tier 3 units, when the best players in the world cannot find a viable late game composition for terran? If they can't find it, what makes you so confident that it exists? Thats like saying that PvZ is overpowered for protoss because if Zerg stack up their broods like a tool then they all get killed... if you stack 15 battlecruisers into a vortex then quite frankly you deserve to lose... The BCs die regardless of vortexes. Interesting, MVP disagrees with you and in fact said the exact opposite. Outside of Vortex, there is no way Squirtle could possibly have beaten that many BCs. I don't think you ever saw BC's in big fights against Toss if you think MVP would've won the game. MVP would've barely won the fight but he would've died to reeinforcements of Squirtles insane bank and gateway count pretty soon after. You can't reeinforce an army like that . Eh, i can tell you 100% if MVP had emp'd the mothership he would have won the game with those BCS. And it would not have been barely - he would have basically won the game right there. So Terrans stop complaining about the BCS dying in that game, the only reason MVP lost was because of vortex. | ||
yeint
Estonia2329 Posts
May 24 2012 11:18 GMT
#1783
On May 10 2012 11:24 Danyl wrote: Yay now hellions can't deny creep at all early game. Bye bye reactor hellion openings. Queen buff is dumb. This. How on earth are we supposed to harass an economic zerg? | ||
neoghaleon55
United States7435 Posts
May 24 2012 22:12 GMT
#1784
On May 24 2012 20:18 yeint wrote: Show nested quote + On May 10 2012 11:24 Danyl wrote: Yay now hellions can't deny creep at all early game. Bye bye reactor hellion openings. Queen buff is dumb. This. How on earth are we supposed to harass an economic zerg? Proxy 11/11 still works on a professional level. | ||
sam!zdat
United States5559 Posts
May 24 2012 22:16 GMT
#1785
On May 25 2012 07:12 neoghaleon55 wrote: Show nested quote + On May 24 2012 20:18 yeint wrote: On May 10 2012 11:24 Danyl wrote: Yay now hellions can't deny creep at all early game. Bye bye reactor hellion openings. Queen buff is dumb. This. How on earth are we supposed to harass an economic zerg? Proxy 11/11 still works on a professional level. Yes, very good harass build. | ||
Tippecanoe
United States342 Posts
May 24 2012 22:26 GMT
#1786
On May 25 2012 07:16 sam!zdat wrote: Show nested quote + On May 25 2012 07:12 neoghaleon55 wrote: On May 24 2012 20:18 yeint wrote: On May 10 2012 11:24 Danyl wrote: Yay now hellions can't deny creep at all early game. Bye bye reactor hellion openings. Queen buff is dumb. This. How on earth are we supposed to harass an economic zerg? Proxy 11/11 still works on a professional level. Yes, very good harass build. its an all in | ||
sam!zdat
United States5559 Posts
May 24 2012 22:29 GMT
#1787
On May 25 2012 07:26 Tippecanoe wrote: Show nested quote + On May 25 2012 07:16 sam!zdat wrote: On May 25 2012 07:12 neoghaleon55 wrote: On May 24 2012 20:18 yeint wrote: On May 10 2012 11:24 Danyl wrote: Yay now hellions can't deny creep at all early game. Bye bye reactor hellion openings. Queen buff is dumb. This. How on earth are we supposed to harass an economic zerg? Proxy 11/11 still works on a professional level. Yes, very good harass build. its an all in bravo | ||
s3rp
Germany3192 Posts
May 24 2012 22:41 GMT
#1788
On May 24 2012 19:37 avilo wrote: Show nested quote + On May 24 2012 00:21 s3rp wrote: On May 24 2012 00:13 Shiori wrote: On May 23 2012 23:56 Dalavita wrote: On May 23 2012 23:52 NexUmbra wrote: On May 23 2012 23:19 thepeonwhocould wrote: On May 23 2012 22:34 jdsowa wrote: T players who keep building up a late game army of T1 bio against T2/T3 gas-heavy AOE P max army are like the lab rat that continues to push the button and shock itself even after the food stops coming. Starcraft 2 is designed in such a way that expensive units beat less expensive units, and AOE--because of its cost effectiveness--is essential late game. Though I fear that once T players finally figure this out in a month or two, that there will be some other group of people whining about something. This is an incredibly tiresome aspect of following this game. There are people who are earning a living from this game. There are hundreads of terran players in korea and around the world who's salaries depend on them being good at this game. If terran had a viable late game unit composition other than bio, don't you think those people who have been playing this game for 2 years and are paid money to be GOOD at this game would have discovered it by now? Did you see what happened when MvP got 3-3 battle cruisers? They fought at 200 suply each. After the battle, MvP had 90 supply, and Squirtle had 200 supply. That's what happens when terran gets their "T3 gas heavy army". Do you have any idea how egotistical it is for you to state that terrans are loosing because they are not building tier 3 units, when the best players in the world cannot find a viable late game composition for terran? If they can't find it, what makes you so confident that it exists? Thats like saying that PvZ is overpowered for protoss because if Zerg stack up their broods like a tool then they all get killed... if you stack 15 battlecruisers into a vortex then quite frankly you deserve to lose... The BCs die regardless of vortexes. Interesting, MVP disagrees with you and in fact said the exact opposite. Outside of Vortex, there is no way Squirtle could possibly have beaten that many BCs. I don't think you ever saw BC's in big fights against Toss if you think MVP would've won the game. MVP would've barely won the fight but he would've died to reeinforcements of Squirtles insane bank and gateway count pretty soon after. You can't reeinforce an army like that . Eh, i can tell you 100% if MVP had emp'd the mothership he would have won the game with those BCS. And it would not have been barely - he would have basically won the game right there. So Terrans stop complaining about the BCS dying in that game, the only reason MVP lost was because of vortex. I don't think he could've beaten a 8k 6k bank with what he had at mining . Most of the BC's that didn't die wouldve been severly damaged and irc MVP had no SCV's to repair ? I don't think he could've won with actually attacking . He should've bunkered down at the 2 remaining expos with Planetaries and just turtle. There's no way Squirtle could've broken him in like ever. Maybe he would've and your right but i don't put a lick of trust into BC's at all, not even in TvT . | ||
dudeman001
United States2412 Posts
May 24 2012 23:07 GMT
#1789
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SolidMoose
United States1240 Posts
May 24 2012 23:19 GMT
#1790
On May 25 2012 08:07 dudeman001 wrote: I'm just curious, now that reapers can't kite queens isn't requiring factory for reaper speed redundant in TvZ? Or any of the reaper nerfs for that matter | ||
Lavit2099
United States390 Posts
May 24 2012 23:23 GMT
#1791
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drybones
United States69 Posts
May 24 2012 23:55 GMT
#1792
On May 25 2012 08:19 SolidMoose wrote: Show nested quote + On May 25 2012 08:07 dudeman001 wrote: I'm just curious, now that reapers can't kite queens isn't requiring factory for reaper speed redundant in TvZ? Or any of the reaper nerfs for that matter correct me if im wrong but the reaper nerfts i think were due to the problems in 2v2 with TZ teams just going fast speed reaper ling and it being impossible to stop | ||
teamhozac
404 Posts
May 25 2012 11:58 GMT
#1793
On May 25 2012 08:23 lavit2099 wrote: The queen buff doesn't break reactor hellion builds. Just forces you to use four or six hellions to deny early spread instead of just using two to dominate the map. Since when did 2 hellions DOMINATE the map? lol, once ling speed is done you need like 6 hellions or you just get swarmed, even then if they catch you by surprise its all over | ||
teamhozac
404 Posts
May 25 2012 12:00 GMT
#1794
On May 25 2012 08:55 drybones wrote: Show nested quote + On May 25 2012 08:19 SolidMoose wrote: On May 25 2012 08:07 dudeman001 wrote: I'm just curious, now that reapers can't kite queens isn't requiring factory for reaper speed redundant in TvZ? Or any of the reaper nerfs for that matter correct me if im wrong but the reaper nerfts i think were due to the problems in 2v2 with TZ teams just going fast speed reaper ling and it being impossible to stop If the reason for nerfing the reaper was based around 2v2 that would be ridiculous. So much for balance around the "top level" lol... but I doubt that was the reason for nerfing them | ||
ThePlayer33
Australia2378 Posts
May 25 2012 12:16 GMT
#1795
Poll: Nerf Queen or Infestor next patch? Infestor (20) Queen (6) 26 total votes Your vote: Nerf Queen or Infestor next patch? Preparing for next patch | ||
Dalavita
Sweden1113 Posts
May 25 2012 12:18 GMT
#1796
On May 25 2012 21:16 ThePlayer33 wrote: Poll: Nerf Queen or Infestor next patch? Infestor (20) Queen (6) 26 total votes Your vote: Nerf Queen or Infestor next patch? Preparing for next patch Where's the option for both? ![]() I do hope that the queen buff gets reverted on a serious note. | ||
teamhozac
404 Posts
May 25 2012 12:18 GMT
#1797
On May 25 2012 21:16 ThePlayer33 wrote: Poll: Nerf Queen or Infestor next patch? Infestor (20) Queen (6) 26 total votes Your vote: Nerf Queen or Infestor next patch? Preparing for next patch I think infestors are alright, queens are ridiculous though | ||
Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9651 Posts
May 25 2012 12:21 GMT
#1798
On May 25 2012 21:16 ThePlayer33 wrote: Poll: Nerf Queen or Infestor next patch? Infestor (20) Queen (6) 26 total votes Your vote: Nerf Queen or Infestor next patch? Preparing for next patch no option to nerf tanks and marines? | ||
SCRK
Netherlands17 Posts
May 25 2012 12:31 GMT
#1799
No, the "I want to win every game"-button isn't yet available. Before the patch ZvT had a stable balance, so nerfing Terran after give Zerg the Queen buff would break the match-up. | ||
Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9651 Posts
May 25 2012 12:32 GMT
#1800
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