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vVvSpike
Profile Joined January 2012
40 Posts
May 11 2012 09:39 GMT
#1781
I giggled at that video
vVv-Gaming.com | Co-Community Manager | @vVv_Spike
redDuke
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia207 Posts
May 11 2012 10:00 GMT
#1782
great news! loved thorzain ever since TSL 3 - him and nani totally won me over. GL to him and hope it all works out for him before he goes to school.
vile | FXO | Liquid | EG | coL
FuFighter
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany60 Posts
May 11 2012 10:54 GMT
#1783
I loved the video!! Great stuff!! :D :D
"Scissors are fine, Paper is IMBA." - Rock
Abort Retry Fail
Profile Joined December 2011
2636 Posts
May 11 2012 10:57 GMT
#1784
Grats to EG and Thorzain!
Looking forward to Thorzain on a great team/environment!
BSOD
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
May 11 2012 11:15 GMT
#1785
Go Thorzain! hope both him and EG benefit from this.
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Mimimimi
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany7 Posts
May 11 2012 11:22 GMT
#1786
Great Video :D
takingbackoj
Profile Joined December 2010
United States684 Posts
May 11 2012 11:26 GMT
#1787
On May 11 2012 18:34 RageBot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 14:33 Cloud9157 wrote:
On May 11 2012 13:42 Trowa127 wrote:
This thread is hilarious. Teams sign players who have shown good results? Jesus Christ, there must be foul play at work here!

You wouldn't have a 90 page thread complaining if someone was hired by a firm because he had a lot of experience and did well in his previous jobs, would you?

Simply moronic.


Problem is that is the ONLY players they sign it seems.


Yeah, it's really silly, they have a team house, which means that out of any team in the world (outside of Millenium I think) they have an opportunity to take up-and-coming players, let them live in their house and play 12 hours a day.
They should try and grow some NA talent in my opinion.

Why?
Get the hell outta here Der Beek, your'e ruining my moment.
SEA KarMa
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia452 Posts
May 11 2012 11:46 GMT
#1788
not expected, but ok
"terrible, terrible damage". terrible, terrible design.
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
May 11 2012 12:35 GMT
#1789
On May 11 2012 20:26 takingbackoj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 18:34 RageBot wrote:
On May 11 2012 14:33 Cloud9157 wrote:
On May 11 2012 13:42 Trowa127 wrote:
This thread is hilarious. Teams sign players who have shown good results? Jesus Christ, there must be foul play at work here!

You wouldn't have a 90 page thread complaining if someone was hired by a firm because he had a lot of experience and did well in his previous jobs, would you?

Simply moronic.


Problem is that is the ONLY players they sign it seems.


Yeah, it's really silly, they have a team house, which means that out of any team in the world (outside of Millenium I think) they have an opportunity to take up-and-coming players, let them live in their house and play 12 hours a day.
They should try and grow some NA talent in my opinion.

Why?


Exactly - why should they do that unless there's some benefit? They don't have any social responsibility to do that.
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
May 11 2012 12:46 GMT
#1790
On May 11 2012 14:33 Cloud9157 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 13:42 Trowa127 wrote:
This thread is hilarious. Teams sign players who have shown good results? Jesus Christ, there must be foul play at work here!

You wouldn't have a 90 page thread complaining if someone was hired by a firm because he had a lot of experience and did well in his previous jobs, would you?

Simply moronic.


Problem is that is the ONLY players they sign it seems.

Yeah, they should follow TeamLiquid's example, right?

Face it, people just want to shit on EG because it's EG. It's a running double standard from fanboys.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Sphaero
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1697 Posts
May 11 2012 13:29 GMT
#1791
On May 11 2012 21:35 FairForever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 20:26 takingbackoj wrote:
On May 11 2012 18:34 RageBot wrote:
On May 11 2012 14:33 Cloud9157 wrote:
On May 11 2012 13:42 Trowa127 wrote:
This thread is hilarious. Teams sign players who have shown good results? Jesus Christ, there must be foul play at work here!

You wouldn't have a 90 page thread complaining if someone was hired by a firm because he had a lot of experience and did well in his previous jobs, would you?

Simply moronic.


Problem is that is the ONLY players they sign it seems.


Yeah, it's really silly, they have a team house, which means that out of any team in the world (outside of Millenium I think) they have an opportunity to take up-and-coming players, let them live in their house and play 12 hours a day.
They should try and grow some NA talent in my opinion.

Why?


Exactly - why should they do that unless there's some benefit? They don't have any social responsibility to do that.


It would probably increase their reputation and fanbase as well. Homegrown talent is always good for the image.

People outside their existing fanbase have more often than not a fixed view of EG. An American team with a bunch of money, which buy victories rather than "earn" them. A team that takes already complete players from other teams to weaken them. There is also the "EG curse" going around.

I think that even only one truly homegrown player could change the view for some and could be sold by EG as "the America dream" or something like that.

What do they have to lose? Just give a guy with potential a little bit of Salary, a shirt and a room in the Lair and see how it goes. Even if it fails, they can still at least say, that they have tried.
TheBanana
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway2183 Posts
May 11 2012 13:38 GMT
#1792
On May 11 2012 18:14 Velr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 18:10 jmbthirteen wrote:
On May 11 2012 18:04 Manical wrote:
Wasn't EG supposed to be an all american team, or have they completely abandoned that idea now?


lol when was EG supposed to be an all american team? They never have been in any of their titles.


Iirc the SC2 division started out as pure american? Probably some people got the idea from there taht EG will stay "mainly" American.



But they had Grubby?
If you're not getting better faster than everybody else, you're getting worse.
chocopan
Profile Joined April 2010
Japan986 Posts
May 11 2012 13:47 GMT
#1793
Good video, well done.

EG is pretty cool, they know how to run a team and have some pretty interesting players now. Lot to like.
Dance those ultras
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
May 11 2012 13:53 GMT
#1794
That video was really awesome!

Gratz to EG and Thorzain, they'll be good to each other;
maru lover forever
Valikyr
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
May 11 2012 14:04 GMT
#1795
On May 11 2012 22:38 TheBanana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 18:14 Velr wrote:
On May 11 2012 18:10 jmbthirteen wrote:
On May 11 2012 18:04 Manical wrote:
Wasn't EG supposed to be an all american team, or have they completely abandoned that idea now?


lol when was EG supposed to be an all american team? They never have been in any of their titles.


Iirc the SC2 division started out as pure american? Probably some people got the idea from there taht EG will stay "mainly" American.



But they had Grubby?

Grubby was signed as a WC3 player at the time.
TheBanana
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway2183 Posts
May 11 2012 14:23 GMT
#1796
On May 11 2012 23:04 Valikyr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 22:38 TheBanana wrote:
On May 11 2012 18:14 Velr wrote:
On May 11 2012 18:10 jmbthirteen wrote:
On May 11 2012 18:04 Manical wrote:
Wasn't EG supposed to be an all american team, or have they completely abandoned that idea now?


lol when was EG supposed to be an all american team? They never have been in any of their titles.


Iirc the SC2 division started out as pure american? Probably some people got the idea from there taht EG will stay "mainly" American.



But they had Grubby?

Grubby was signed as a WC3 player at the time.


He was still listed on their SC2-roster on their own page.
If you're not getting better faster than everybody else, you're getting worse.
GruGloG
Profile Joined December 2008
Netherlands114 Posts
May 11 2012 14:30 GMT
#1797
I am trying so so so hard to see the logic that EG are villains for paying players more money than other teams, but I really struggle. They are a team, they want good results: so if their players don´t produce the results they feel is adequat they should just sit by and watch? Do they have some sort of obligation to not seek the best results they can for their team?

Also, what team in the world would NOT want the best players in their team?

Big gratz to Thorzain and EG!
Hnnngg
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1101 Posts
May 11 2012 14:53 GMT
#1798
On May 11 2012 23:30 GruGloG wrote:
I am trying so so so hard to see the logic that EG are villains for paying players more money than other teams, but I really struggle. They are a team, they want good results: so if their players don´t produce the results they feel is adequat they should just sit by and watch? Do they have some sort of obligation to not seek the best results they can for their team?

Also, what team in the world would NOT want the best players in their team?

Big gratz to Thorzain and EG!


They need to actually adopt a child and rear it to be a SC2 pro, otherwise EG is poaching.

Correction, the child needs to be one of the original EG member's child, otherwise it's poaching children from orphanages.
takingbackoj
Profile Joined December 2010
United States684 Posts
May 11 2012 15:01 GMT
#1799
On May 11 2012 22:29 Sphaero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 21:35 FairForever wrote:
On May 11 2012 20:26 takingbackoj wrote:
On May 11 2012 18:34 RageBot wrote:
On May 11 2012 14:33 Cloud9157 wrote:
On May 11 2012 13:42 Trowa127 wrote:
This thread is hilarious. Teams sign players who have shown good results? Jesus Christ, there must be foul play at work here!

You wouldn't have a 90 page thread complaining if someone was hired by a firm because he had a lot of experience and did well in his previous jobs, would you?

Simply moronic.


Problem is that is the ONLY players they sign it seems.


Yeah, it's really silly, they have a team house, which means that out of any team in the world (outside of Millenium I think) they have an opportunity to take up-and-coming players, let them live in their house and play 12 hours a day.
They should try and grow some NA talent in my opinion.

Why?


Exactly - why should they do that unless there's some benefit? They don't have any social responsibility to do that.


It would probably increase their reputation and fanbase as well. Homegrown talent is always good for the image.

People outside their existing fanbase have more often than not a fixed view of EG. An American team with a bunch of money, which buy victories rather than "earn" them. A team that takes already complete players from other teams to weaken them. There is also the "EG curse" going around.

I think that even only one truly homegrown player could change the view for some and could be sold by EG as "the America dream" or something like that.

What do they have to lose? Just give a guy with potential a little bit of Salary, a shirt and a room in the Lair and see how it goes. Even if it fails, they can still at least say, that they have tried.

What do they have to lose? Well do you know why Nike sponsors Lebron James and Ronaldo? Because they are arguably the best at what they do. I imagine it works in a similar fashion with E-sports an example would be IM, arguably the most successful team in SC2 hast the biggest sponsor in LG. Why would a company waste its time sponsoring a team full of unknown less skilled players? And I have never seen anyone say they hate EG because their isnt enough Americans on the team.
Get the hell outta here Der Beek, your'e ruining my moment.
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
May 11 2012 15:01 GMT
#1800
On May 11 2012 22:29 Sphaero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 21:35 FairForever wrote:
On May 11 2012 20:26 takingbackoj wrote:
On May 11 2012 18:34 RageBot wrote:
On May 11 2012 14:33 Cloud9157 wrote:
On May 11 2012 13:42 Trowa127 wrote:
This thread is hilarious. Teams sign players who have shown good results? Jesus Christ, there must be foul play at work here!

You wouldn't have a 90 page thread complaining if someone was hired by a firm because he had a lot of experience and did well in his previous jobs, would you?

Simply moronic.


Problem is that is the ONLY players they sign it seems.


Yeah, it's really silly, they have a team house, which means that out of any team in the world (outside of Millenium I think) they have an opportunity to take up-and-coming players, let them live in their house and play 12 hours a day.
They should try and grow some NA talent in my opinion.

Why?


Exactly - why should they do that unless there's some benefit? They don't have any social responsibility to do that.


It would probably increase their reputation and fanbase as well. Homegrown talent is always good for the image.

People outside their existing fanbase have more often than not a fixed view of EG. An American team with a bunch of money, which buy victories rather than "earn" them. A team that takes already complete players from other teams to weaken them. There is also the "EG curse" going around.

I think that even only one truly homegrown player could change the view for some and could be sold by EG as "the America dream" or something like that.

What do they have to lose? Just give a guy with potential a little bit of Salary, a shirt and a room in the Lair and see how it goes. Even if it fails, they can still at least say, that they have tried.


1) The team house has limited space. You want to bring someone in, you gotta kick someone out. You think developing talent is worth as much to EG as Machine/Idra/InControl? Think about the tradeoff?

2) Bringing in developing talent is like bringing in a team at a whole different level of play. I can't see Idra or the Korean side practicing with them, so they're going to be practicing with InControl/Machine/Lz/other people at their level on other teams. How are they going to get improved training and become competitive EG players?

3) Do you really think this will change the perception of EG? People dislike EG for no apparent reason, which is fine (people can root for/against teams). But TL doesn't develop talent (their only recruits recently are all Koreans, and Sheth if you go a bit further back) - yet you don't rag on them.

4) EG already tried to develop Axslav and Strifecro. The fact they released them shows it isn't financially responsible to keep developing players around. Sure they also played some 2s, but you can't really make a living off 2s in SC2.

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