50 energy does seem a bit much although I guess we'll see in testing. I'm thinking maybe slightly more energy than 25 would be a better compromise, that way they can get an earlier tumor at less cost to their larva production than they currently get.

Queens spawning with 50 energy means they come ready with a transfuse, which will make Terran and Protoss air openings much weaker when Zergs were already pretty good at handling them.

BearStorm

United States795 Posts

May 03 2012 00:12 GMT

#49

I feel that if queens start with a transfuse, standard VR harass to zerg will be significantly changed if zerg maintains the same amount of creep spread. But that's just my guess.

leo23

United States3075 Posts

May 03 2012 00:13 GMT

#50

anyone want to play? masters zerg here pm me

SarcasmMonster

3136 Posts

May 03 2012 00:13 GMT

#51

Poll: Overlord change?

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81%

Disagree (806)

19%

4341 total votes

Your vote: Overlord change?

(Vote): Agree
(Vote): Disagree

Poll: Queen change

Disagree (2667)

60%

Agree (1755)

40%

4422 total votes

Your vote: Queen change

(Vote): Agree
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Poll: Observer change

Disagree (2301)

53%

Agree (2072)

47%

4373 total votes

Your vote: Observer change

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pdd

Australia9933 Posts

May 03 2012 00:14 GMT

#52

On May 03 2012 09:06 Enzymatic wrote:

Show nested quote +

I'm sorry when was the last time a toss player won GSL or made any noise in the GSTL? Not only that, but Toss has been a pretty big let-down in MLG lately too.

History doesn't dictate current balance. And speaking of noise in GSTL. Every Protoss did well in the last GSTL and the end of the one before that.

S2Lunar

1051 Posts

May 03 2012 00:14 GMT

#53

not to mention that a queen popping out with a transfuse and TWO injects is fucking ridiculous.. if it passes zerg will be unstoppable.

UmiNotsuki

United States633 Posts

May 03 2012 00:15 GMT

#54

Just played the map. OHMYGOD SO MUCH CREEP SO FAST it made me a little uncomfortable how quick it got going.

Ace1123

Philippines1187 Posts

May 03 2012 00:15 GMT

#55

On May 03 2012 09:12 Eufouria wrote:
50 energy does seem a bit much although I guess we'll see in testing. I'm thinking maybe slightly more energy than 25 would be a better compromise, that way they can get an earlier tumor at less cost to their larva production than they currently get.

Queens spawning with 50 energy means they come ready with a transfuse, which will make Terran and Protoss air openings much weaker when Zergs were already pretty good at handling them.

Yeah I imagine Losira to dominate the whole map on creep before 20 mins if this happens. he has imba creep spreading skills :D Setting that aside, I think this is too much;.

Kambing

United States1176 Posts

May 03 2012 00:15 GMT

#56

On May 03 2012 09:13 SarcasmMonster wrote:

Poll: Overlord change?

Agree (3535)

81%

Disagree (806)

19%

4341 total votes

Your vote: Overlord change?

(Vote): Agree
(Vote): Disagree

Poll: Queen change

Disagree (2667)

60%

Agree (1755)

40%

4422 total votes

Your vote: Queen change

(Vote): Agree
(Vote): Disagree

Poll: Observer change

Disagree (2301)

53%

Agree (2072)

47%

4373 total votes

Your vote: Observer change

(Vote): Agree
(Vote): Disagree

Stealing this for the OP Sarcasm. Thanks for making the polls.

An2quamaraN

Poland379 Posts

May 03 2012 00:15 GMT

#57

Ok, so zerg is getting buffed...after all that zergs beating protosses so badly...

TheRabidDeer

United States3806 Posts

May 03 2012 00:15 GMT

#58

On May 03 2012 09:14 Toppp wrote:
not to mention that a queen popping out with a transfuse and TWO injects is fucking ridiculous.. if it passes zerg will be unstoppable.

Erm, 50 energy is 1 transfuse OR two injects. You also cant inject the same thing twice which nullifies its ability to inject twice.

canikizu

4860 Posts

May 03 2012 00:17 GMT

#59

So now you can theoretically make observer faster than marines?

Littlemuff

United Kingdom301 Posts

May 03 2012 00:17 GMT

#60

At first i was sceptical about the queen energy change but i dont think it will be too bad. Look at how much creep gets destroyed by terren early pressure when the zerg has 4 queens. All this means is that the initial burst of creep will benifit the zerg but after that it all goes back to normal. Against protoss it might be benificial, but the point of it is that it helps against toss 8gate all ins when they dont have an obs. If they do, the creep benifit is negated (i understand the proxy pylon will have to be further away but atleast that will enourage more warp prism play). Though defending against early stargate might be end up being too easy as queens can move faster to the bases. This could possibly mean no one goes for it anymore.