Call to Action: Balance Testing (live custom map) - Page 105

On May 07 2012 16:47 corpuscle wrote:


Haha what? Zerg and Protoss can make workers much faster than Terran. We have MULEs to compensate for that. It's not a bonus, it's our way of staying equal against superior worker counts, which happen in every non-mirror matchup.

On May 07 2012 18:54 kyllinghest wrote:
It seems like many people think scouting with scans is a good and reliable tactic. I would love it if someone would write a guide about when, and especially where one should spend the scan. Even when I have scouted a protoss' early pylons its never certain where they have placed their buildings, and smart zergs don't clump their main with important tech. I would be very thankfull if one of you pro-scan scouters could share some knowledge with me on this, and also if there could be a tiny section about wich bildings you stop producing from when you scan.

On May 07 2012 18:59 Topdoller wrote:



Does this apply any more in the modern SC2 metagame at Pro Level?, A lot of Terran's out expand Zerg these days with 3 CCs, around12 mins game time. Early game yes, late game no for certain. Once that 3rd CC kicks in with mules Zerg need 4 bases just for parity.

99% of Pro Terrans will use scans just to clear creep these days rather than build their own dedicated anti cloak unit the Raven ( I haven't seen one of these used to clear creep since game release )

On May 07 2012 10:12 Zealot Lord wrote:


Though I personally also like this idea as it gets rid of low level balance whiner trolls, at the same time, I don't think its fair to posters who have higher knowledge than actual playing skill, because people will no doubt dismiss their opinion instantly (even if its a good one) if they see that their linked profile is not of a high league.

The best thing imo is to incorporate some sort of post rating system that I've seen other forum boards use before. Allow users to be able to rate posts (e.g.1-5 stars), and show their average score under their name. Its not a perfect system by any means, but at least you'll be able to filter out which posters are just here to waste peoples time rather quickly (actually I think some sites just ban posters who have an absurdly low rating with enough rates).

Because right now I agree with you that there are way too many posts which are completely nonconstructive/absurd, would make threads a lot more enjoyable to read if they are full of proper legit honest discussions.

On May 08 2012 17:21 mutantmagnet wrote:


After reading yesterday 70% of my fellow countrymen think Iran already has nuclear weapons I think a rating system won't work as well as you think.

What should be done is everyone has a personal stat tracker just like up vote down vote tool in online radios. If you find someone disagreeable you down vote them and in future threads their posts are truncated more and more until their hidden for each time youo down vote them. If people befriend you then your down votes will influence what they can see on the forum (but they need to opt in)

On May 06 2012 16:14 iAmJeffReY wrote:
This kind of thread is why I feel everyone should have a sc2 profile linked to their name. Like after posts, it would say bronze/silver/gold/plat/diamond/masters/gmasters. It really helps when talking about balance and other issues when you know you're not talking to an extremely low level player that is a I watch every tournament theorycraft pro...that bases everything off one series in one tournament to show why something is so imbalanced.

On May 08 2012 19:12 naastyOne wrote:

But again, you imply that a person need some sort of external help/reminder to figure out the content of the post, which is
Largely BS and arguably foolish elitism.

On May 08 2012 21:24 mutantmagnet wrote:



There is nothing elitist about this approach. Comments from posters you have found to offer less then compelling material get truncated more and more over time by you adding more down votes.One of the problems with message boards is that sometimes people say useless things you don't need to even waste your time skimming.

This wouldn't be like putting someone on your ignore list where anything they say is immediately hidden. They have to get down voted a lot to become hidden.

Also if someone trusts your opinion it is up to them to maually set up their filter settings to be influenced by your own. It is their perogative to rely on you like that.

On May 08 2012 21:24 mutantmagnet wrote:
One of the problems with message boards is that sometimes people say useless things you don't need to even waste your time skimming.

On May 08 2012 22:22 nkr wrote:


I saw MaruPrime do it. Once.

On May 08 2012 22:17 naastyOne wrote:

Well, here you go, instead of reading through the argument and compelling, just dismiss it.
Lol.

The "community vote" on the post in >95% cases go by popularity&personal feeling.
This generally has very, very few things with with how much worth the post is. Just look at it.

For example, Any post viewing TvP as fine, will generally be negatively rated by people who thinks otherwise, and the post didn`t convince them. Examples can go on infinitely,

It all comes to the point, where the "rating system" that is really needed to make the "community vote" efficient, is self-defeating, because a person would waste more time figuring out the vote about the post than actually reading the post and figuring out yourself. Kinda simple.

Yes, because sometimes you have to read something you think stupid and can not frame the post/person in any way to get a feeling that "at least you did something", like showed your "own opinion" without actually needing to put any argument behind is, well called,..

On May 09 2012 09:56 Auriouk wrote:
reapers vs zerg is now nullified and completely useless, now u cant even kite queens with reapers, which only did a small thing for terran and was not imbalanced by any means. So hellions can't kite queens either, this change is fine, but leaving no room for reaper play is bad.