Article about Khaldor in German newspaper - Page 2

On April 28 2012 22:23 Hall0wed wrote:
Nice article!

And damn google does a good job translating German. When I had it translate the entire page it was extremely readable and compared quite well to your translation.

On April 29 2012 01:22 zachMEISTER wrote:


That's because the german language is very strict grammatically. I can see google easily translating german into english. Not to mention english is germanic at it's roots.

Glad Khaldor has seemed to "explode" into the scene. I personally stumbled upon his stream the exact way they described. I was bored watching something, and he was casting so I clicked it and fell in love with him!

On April 29 2012 01:22 zachMEISTER wrote:


That's because the german language is very strict grammatically. I can see google easily translating german into english. Not to mention english is germanic at it's roots.
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On April 29 2012 02:34 Proseat wrote:


Well, it's not that easy. The German language has quite a few pecularities that will easily throw off a machine translation, especially when sentences are ambiguous in many ways.

Take for example the simple sentence "Paul liebt Anna." In German -- like in English -- the prefered word order is Subject- Verb-Object (SVO) which puts the translation as "Paul loves Anna." However, as the SVO word order is only prefered but not strict, sentences may deviate and go with a less common OVS word order. So the given example then would translate as "Anna loves Paul." (or more literally: "Paul is whom Anna loves.") This secondary word order is usually chosen when emphasis needs to be put or if a question like "Wen liebt Anna?" ("Who does Anna love?", "Anna loves whom?") is answered.

Another thing that usually confuses machine translation is subordinate clauses which in German take the S(O)V word order, i.e. "Er ist nicht ins Kino gegangen, da es gestern regnete." has the verb move all the way to the end of the sentence translating as "He did not go to the movies, because it rained yesterday." The main and subordinate clauses could also -- like in English -- be switched so it becomes "Da es gestern regnete, ist er nicht ins Kino gegangen." and translates as "Because it rained yesterday, he did not go to the movies."

And then you have -- like in English -- word ambiguities which will throw off machine translations. A sentence like "Der Jaguar ist schnell." could mean "The jaguar is fast." (the animal) or "The Jaguar is fast." (the car). In this example English is better off than German because it will only capitalize a brand name, not every noun as is the rule in the German language. Another example for cross-language word ambiguity is "Die Isolation schlug fehl." which could either translate as "The isolation failed." (exclusion, displacement) or "The insulation failed." (electrical shielding).

So while some of the things you mentioned certainly help a German to English machine translation, there are still several pitfalls, which makes it largely dependent on the structure of the original text and luck.

For some of the inherent pecularities of German in a comedic relief setting, I recommend reading The Awful German Language by Mark Twain. Also, there is this short and sweet list of common German beginner mistakes.

On April 29 2012 03:22 NexUmbra wrote:


Obviously context is of pivotal importance, if you are watching a video about cars then "Der Jaguar ist schnell." obviously does not mean the animal...

Die erste Liga ist mit einem in der Szene legendären Duo besetzt, den Amerikanern Dan „Artosis“ Stemkoski und Nicolas „Tasteless“ Plott. „An ihnen“, sagt Kilian, „führt kein Weg vorbei. + Show Spoiler [Google Translate] +