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[Part 3] Matchmaking Changes - Page 4

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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
April 24 2012 06:31 GMT
#61
i would like to see them reduce the variability of your opponents to about 75 percent of what it is, and of course this will probably need to be changed in the future pending further matchmaking balance issues
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
SedativeDev
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia316 Posts
April 24 2012 06:32 GMT
#62
I don't know... I'm silver and playing against bronze an high gold. it's pretty stupid. against bronze it's sadly easy and against gold is hard as hell. All i can say, that those are not enoyable games.
LF9
Profile Joined November 2009
United States537 Posts
April 24 2012 06:36 GMT
#63
Wow, I love this change.
mell0w
Profile Joined September 2010
United States102 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-24 06:49:26
April 24 2012 06:45 GMT
#64
Not a fan of these changes at all. What's really going on here, is that it's becoming harder to gauge your actual progress when you're not playing opponents of a similar skill level in favor for shorter ladder que times. Many will disagree, but I find it utterly anti-competitive; that is not saying you can't still try and compete, but now it's more like college football players playing one game against a special olympics team, then immediately playing against an NFL team. I neither enjoy smashing people on the ladder, or like being smashed in turn, in a very one-sided match up.
mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
April 24 2012 06:45 GMT
#65
i dont like this...i feel like i learn a lot more facing people similar to my skill. Beating up on someone lower league than me teaches me nothing. Facing someone much better does help but so does facing people my level all the time.
qwertzi
Profile Joined March 2011
111 Posts
April 24 2012 06:47 GMT
#66
this doesnt make any sense, because then it is the players in the second highest skillset that can only lose..

i actually support the new matchmaking system, just saying that their argumentation is flawed..
skatbone
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1005 Posts
April 24 2012 07:20 GMT
#67
Yea...even after the supposed reverted changes, it has been a rollercoaster for me. As others have mentioned, the system has not been normal over the last few days.
Mercurial#1193
Bojas
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2397 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-24 07:23:58
April 24 2012 07:23 GMT
#68
I was playing a mid platinum player and then a masters in a row n my second account. I thought my mmr was really messed up since the changes were reverted.

My main one was playing high masters at one point.



I got stomped.
FrogOfWar
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany1406 Posts
April 24 2012 07:30 GMT
#69
Happened occasionally recently that I, at the top of gold league, get matched vs. a plat player, win, and then get matched with a silver player. I knew there was something going on.
TheWorldToCome
Profile Joined January 2012
United States452 Posts
April 24 2012 08:58 GMT
#70
Why can't they just keep the original matchmaking system, there were never any complaints about it before. It really just seems like they are tampering with something for the sake of tampering.


If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Starcraft 2 was designed to have a best race. You play the worst one.
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
April 24 2012 09:11 GMT
#71
Zzz... Blizzard always working hard on inane and worthless projects that the community could care less about, while completely ignoring the universally recognized issues.
roymarthyup
Profile Joined April 2010
1442 Posts
April 24 2012 09:18 GMT
#72
On April 24 2012 12:29 Badfatpanda wrote:
Negatively impacted? Unless they're changing something this is still bullshit. 4 games in a row I go from playing Fenrir and SeleCT to 2 fucking diamonds one of whom 4 gates and I lose 22 points? Highest level? What do I have to be? HuK? It was a good idea in theory but they have to work on the execution still, way too many of my matches are starting with me favored, you have to use completely different builds and it give little practice, often ending in frustration regardless of if I win or lose. All these +5 points half of the people can't even build workers worth a damn if they don't allin.



dont wanna sound mean, but you losing a game to someone much lower than you who "just 4gated" is probably a good impact of this change. if anything consider it a way to fine tune your play
Manimal_pro
Profile Joined June 2010
Romania991 Posts
April 24 2012 09:23 GMT
#73
^exactly, people complaining about losing to cheese and getting -20 from a lower rated opponent need to brush up their play. There is absolutely no excuse for losing to cheese. Learn to deal with it
If you like brood war, please go play brood war and stop whining about SC2
Nabes
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1800 Posts
April 24 2012 09:32 GMT
#74
Who else but blizzard to change something that didn't really need to be fixed.
Stiluz
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway688 Posts
April 24 2012 09:32 GMT
#75
This is like the best fucking example of fixing what ain't broke. I don't see how I can gauge my progress anymore either, if I as a diamond face platinums to masters. Previously it was great to see that when I played well I was facing high diamond, but when on losing streaks, low diamonds. Now this shit.
Firesilver
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom1190 Posts
April 24 2012 09:34 GMT
#76
Does this go into effect immediately or next season? It's unclear.
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ale_jrb
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom72 Posts
April 24 2012 09:35 GMT
#77
On April 24 2012 18:23 Manimal_pro wrote:
^exactly, people complaining about losing to cheese and getting -20 from a lower rated opponent need to brush up their play. There is absolutely no excuse for losing to cheese. Learn to deal with it


I kinda agree with this. If you're losing to a cheese/whatever executed by someone at a much lower skill level than you, you're going to be in a lot of trouble if you meet someone doing it properly at your own level...
DarKcS
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia1237 Posts
April 24 2012 09:35 GMT
#78
On April 24 2012 10:40 felisconcolori wrote:
I dunno. I've been playing bronze, bronze, silver, gold, repeat the past two days.

I'm not quite sure what exactly is going on with the matchmaking system, but I would like to get off this rollercoaster =)

(I'm Silver.)


Bronze is free points. Be glad.
Die tomorrow - Live today
Geos13
Profile Joined May 2011
437 Posts
April 24 2012 09:37 GMT
#79
I'm really not enjoying crushing Platinums and getting stomped by Masters. I hope this will be changed back at some point.
Mrvoodoochild1
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1439 Posts
April 24 2012 09:39 GMT
#80
Free wins a free win. Ty blizzard. I am going to enjoy beating up on noobs.
"let your freak flag fly"
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