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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On April 10 2012 12:01 KimJongChill wrote: Is Nestea a fast player? I feel like decision-making/the mental game is an important aspect at the highest levels as well. He is super fast. Decision making is important, but the foundation is also critical. That is why we see MKP killing people lately. He makes good decisions and then makes them better with micro. | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
On April 10 2012 12:01 KimJongChill wrote: Is Nestea a fast player? I feel like decision-making/the mental game is an important aspect at the highest levels as well. He's a fast player like many Korean (very good macro, injects and creep spread and such). However his reflexes are probably a bit slow if it makes any sense. He makes very good decisions on the fly, very quickly, because he's very smart, but you will be able to see him lose track of his mutas and not pull them back in time while they fly over marines. In that sense he's not among the fastest players, as opposed to someone like DRG. | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
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Cassel_Castle
United States820 Posts
A midgame round of production will be something like 16 units for zerg, 10 units for terran, and 8 units for protoss. So it's not that the races require different amounts of skill (you can just hold down a unit hotkey) it's just that each unit built is counted as an action, so different amounts of units built = different APM across similar levels of skill. | ||
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Euronyme
Sweden3804 Posts
IIRC it completely removes tabbing through buildings to see if you can warp in units / build a worker at a certain base or whatever. That's a major thing EAPM should be sunk into, but afaik it's indistinguishable from spaming control groups with probes and the nexus in the first few minutes. | ||
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Kyrillion
Russian Federation748 Posts
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Jisall
United States2054 Posts
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
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Pasargadae
Korea (South)173 Posts
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Arco
United States2090 Posts
There are many ways of doing things (mechanics), but the better your mechanics (the more efficient you do things), the better the player you are. We need a thread dedicated to the most effective way of carrying out each separate mechanic, and the order in which actions should be favored over other actions. | ||
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SafeAsCheese
United States4924 Posts
On April 10 2012 11:08 Morfildur wrote: Other example: Goody. Slow but perfect decision making which for a long time allowed him to be on par with a lot of the very fast players (yes, he fell behind now, but he's still good enough to prove a point :p) Eh.... This is not a whine, but that is strictly only possible with Terran. | ||
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namedplayer
844 Posts
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NeThZOR
South Africa7387 Posts
On April 10 2012 14:06 namedplayer wrote: Fruitdealer is super slow, yet he was able to win the first GSL. And now he has phased out of professional StarCraft 2, possibly because he could not keep up with the rest in the "mechanics" side of things. Just pointing that out  | ||
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scur2d2
Canada104 Posts
Its like in soccer or football, everyone is fast, there are some that are faster and they have an advantage, while other people may have an advantage in other areas, however they are still faster than a regular human being. | ||
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lorkac
United States2297 Posts
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Akta
447 Posts
I think all the talk about apm might confuse a lot of people. For example, didn't merz say his apm is crazy high because long time ago he heard spamming super fast with the mouse(or something like that) was great? I'm pretty old and I don't think people said "apm" and "mechanics" back in AoE etc but good players tried to keep the pace up and practiced useful actions back then like repositioning units, the build hotkeys etc. It was still spamming but people tried to spam all types of actions you actually wanted to be able to do as fast as possible instead of just spamming same 2-5 things. I like this line from liquipedia on mechanics: "Mechanics is pressing the right buttons exactly when they need to be pressed". Perhaps it would help if people think of apm in a similar 101 way, like "Good APM is executing all game commands quickly". Personally I'm 100% aware of the fact that I need to somewhat be able to make the game(like all games) do what I want to before there's any point with fancy build orders and stuff. And in a game like sc2 there is no cap where it can't get better. | ||
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Josh_rakoons
United Kingdom1158 Posts
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dohgg
310 Posts
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On April 10 2012 11:47 vorxaw wrote: Great post. What would be useful now is.... Are there any SPECIFIC drills for practicing mechanics? Focused Guide to Improving Mechanics Read it, and you'll see the a behind-the-scenes process (Okay, go through 1-3 first. You want mechanics to have a solid foundation.) 1. Practice with spamming to see if you can top 200 apm constantly 2. Turn the spam APM into eAPM. You banked some "money" and now you "spend it." To the thread, yeah, Koreans are on average faster. The best players in the world are extremely quick, executing over 400 real actions in real minutes. Over the course of the entire game. Food for thought for progamers that are still 20% behind the top in eAPM and sometimes much more in reg APM. | ||
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warcralft
Singapore609 Posts
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