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On April 10 2012 22:15 Bojas wrote:
If you take that little apm list as a list of skill then I should sign up for the MLG qualifier, I might actually qualify. While I notice I can outmultitask my opponent most of the time that doesn't neccesarily say my macro, micro or decision making is better.
Is that list eapm or apm??? I assume apm since Select's 374 eapm isn't humanly possible.
It's a big sign where it says "EAPM", EFFECTIVE, so + spam + all micro tricks + picking and dropping hurt marines etc. etc.
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One of the pictures in the OP is broken.
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Hi, i noticed you talked about the day9 daily where he speaks about mechanics, i also found it really helpfull. Day9 actually demonstrated in another one where he talks about the same stuff, but with some more info on the subject, i think both of the dailies are really good to check out, especially for low league players. Even some masters can check some tricks there. This is the link, it's day9 daily number 360, entitled "Mental checklist exercises"! This one is totally worth it, one of the best he's made in my humble opinion.
http://blip.tv/day9tv/day-9-daily-360-p1-mental-checklist-exercises-5635566
Would like to know your opinion too.
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I'm starting to incorporate screen keys (F1-F4) typically F1 - base1 F2 Base2 F3 Base3 F4 Rally)
I tell you it's some bitch trying to get my muscle memory to hit these keys to go there. slowly but surely
other then that I have no problem using my hotkeys as I've been doing that for years of quake3/live and WoW.
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I'm starting to incorporate screen keys (F1-F4) typically F1 - base1 F2 Base2 F3 Base3 F4 Rally)
I tell you it's some bitch trying to get my muscle memory to hit these keys to go there. slowly but surely
I actually noticed that the way i use screen keys is EXACTLY the way Grubby does it: at the beggining of the match he programs the two expo's he will be tanking in case of a macro game, and starts spamming those for no reason, just so his hands are used to the idea. I believe he uses the f2, f3 ,f4 keys for that, not sure because there's no way to tell that with his camera angle, but it seems close.
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Stephano actually clicks around the minimap so you saying that lower level players doing this is bad, is incorrect. If that makes any sense. Obviously they dont do it with the same speed or efficiency.
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On April 10 2012 22:21 nucLeaRTV wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2012 22:15 Bojas wrote:
If you take that little apm list as a list of skill then I should sign up for the MLG qualifier, I might actually qualify. While I notice I can outmultitask my opponent most of the time that doesn't neccesarily say my macro, micro or decision making is better.
Is that list eapm or apm??? I assume apm since Select's 374 eapm isn't humanly possible. It's a big sign where it says "EAPM", EFFECTIVE, so + spam + all micro tricks + picking and dropping hurt marines etc. etc.
So Select has 374 eapm?
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NA players just gotta want to improve, but our society hates gamers lol
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On April 10 2012 22:41 Advocado wrote:
Stephano actually clicks around the minimap so you saying that lower level players doing this is bad, is incorrect. If that makes any sense. Obviously they dont do it with the same speed or efficiency.
TLO was using the cursor keys to scroll around for a long time... (yes, seriously, Day9 even asked his viewers to tell TLO to stop that...)
Just because some pros are doing something one way doesn't make it the best way.
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I think the point is for lower level players not to focus on strategy and more focus on their macro mechanics (injects, supply blocks, spending money, etc). It doesn't matter what build you decide to do as long as you can execute it really well with your superior macro.
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On April 10 2012 22:47 Morfildur wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2012 22:41 Advocado wrote:
Stephano actually clicks around the minimap so you saying that lower level players doing this is bad, is incorrect. If that makes any sense. Obviously they dont do it with the same speed or efficiency. TLO was using the cursor keys to scroll around for a long time... (yes, seriously, Day9 even asked his viewers to tell TLO to stop that...) Just because some pros are doing something one way doesn't make it the best way.
It works pretty well for him clearly. Obviously work with keybindings, but just using keybindings and not granting the mouse a single thought in mechanics is a mistake. Its a very precise way of getting around the minimap when stuff isnt hotkey.
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your image is missing >_<
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On April 10 2012 22:47 Morfildur wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2012 22:41 Advocado wrote:
Stephano actually clicks around the minimap so you saying that lower level players doing this is bad, is incorrect. If that makes any sense. Obviously they dont do it with the same speed or efficiency. TLO was using the cursor keys to scroll around for a long time... (yes, seriously, Day9 even asked his viewers to tell TLO to stop that...) Just because some pros are doing something one way doesn't make it the best way.
TLO didn't use army hotkeys for a long time. That was something special.
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I think mechanics are important to play on an certain level like GM. But to be one of the bests u need a very good understanding of the game, and that means not only strategy it means, to know when to engage and where. There are many factors to be the best i think, but they must all be fullfilled.
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On April 11 2012 01:19 VasHeR wrote:
what are screen hotkeys?
You can bind them in SC2s hotkey options. You can bind a screen like a hotkey and press the hotkey to go back to that parituclar view. It's mostly used in BW to hotkey the view of your production structures to macro.
In SC2 it's mainly used for expansions when you want to build more buildings. Also used by protoss when you want to warp in at a particular place at the map while fighting for instance.
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I'm a high masters/grandmaster on NA, and I've never used screen/camera hotkeys.
How important are they? How many of the top koreans or even top foreigners use them?
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On April 11 2012 03:04 M[a]LiCe wrote:
I'm a high masters/grandmaster on NA, and I've never used screen/camera hotkeys.
How important are they? How many of the top koreans or even top foreigners use them?
Koreans use them a lot from what I can tell. I don't really see too many reasons as zerg to use them, since I have high apm and click my minimap fairly efficiently anyway. It's occasionally nice to bind a particularly dangerous base to make sure you're 100% able to get to it as fast as possible if it gets attacked though.
Also hai fellow michigan zerg.
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On April 11 2012 00:27 Advocado wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2012 22:47 Morfildur wrote:On April 10 2012 22:41 Advocado wrote:
Stephano actually clicks around the minimap so you saying that lower level players doing this is bad, is incorrect. If that makes any sense. Obviously they dont do it with the same speed or efficiency. TLO was using the cursor keys to scroll around for a long time... (yes, seriously, Day9 even asked his viewers to tell TLO to stop that...) Just because some pros are doing something one way doesn't make it the best way. It works pretty well for him clearly. Obviously work with keybindings, but just using keybindings and not granting the mouse a single thought in mechanics is a mistake. Its a very precise way of getting around the minimap when stuff isnt hotkey.
He has notariously bad carpal tunnel. That needs to be taken into account when you're looking to be effective with keyboard hotkeys/mouse.
Also I have no idea what the OP is trying to say. That EAPM is the key to success? because macro is the most important thing. Everyone who is good at sc2 has amazing macro. From there things like EAPM, etc start to seperate the top level pros. But there is a reason that all of them have amazing macro. Example, the Stephano/DRG style 13 minute 200 roach push that even at the pro level is pretty much just 1a and create units until the protoss quits.
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fixed the second picture. :D
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