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MrLlama
Profile Joined December 2010
United States454 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 05:05:29
March 30 2012 05:18 GMT
#1
After some positive feedback from the community (plus if day9 says DO IT, you have to) I have decided to continue with the Inside the Minds of Masters Series.

To give a little background my name is MrLlama and I have been playing starcraft since BW came out. I am currently a 750pt Masters zerg player in SC2. I have also been casting for a few months so I can definitely say I have learned a lot about the game from casting tournaments and pro players.

People always say they love when professionals commentate while they stream but that can be difficult sometimes and a lot of professional players simply do not do this because it either messes them up or there is a language barrier or any number of reasons.

I also know a lot of people try and use professional replays to understand the game better. Unfortunately, they are unsure of what exactly to be looking for and a lot of times will simply see an infestation pit go down for a zerg and assume the timing of it was just a part of the BO (When in actuality it could be because blink stalkers were scouted or any number of reasons).

This is where I try to fill that need. With my series I am hoping to bring knowledge of the game to players and help them understand the WHY when watching a replay. While all audiences can watch and learn from this, I think it will be especially helpful to people Gold-Masters.

I am going to be analyzing all 3 races. Along with my casting knowledge I used to be a terran player and I'm taking protoss lessons right now so I can provide the best commentary for everyone, not just zergs.

I will be updating this first post with links to the videos whenever I add them. Of course you can also subscribe to my youtube as I will be uploading the videos there for now. Eventually I may start turning it into a streamed event once or twice a week but for now it is simply going to be youtube videos.

Inside the Minds of Masters Episode 1: Stephano ZvP (3 hatch vs FFE)
Just Replay: http://drop.sc/140890

Inside the Minds of Masters Episode 2: MC PvT (1 Gate FE vs 2 rax)
Just Replay: http://drop.sc/69779

Inside the Minds of Masters Episode 3: Taeja TvZ (reactor hellion FE vs 2 base muta)
Just Replay: http://drop.sc/148202

Inside the Minds of Masters Episode 4: Nerchio ZvT (muta/ling vs banshee marine/tank)
Just Replay: http://drop.sc/146554

Inside the Minds of Masters Episode 5: RevSaroVati PvZ (Fast 6Gate vs 3 hatch)
Just Replay: http://drop.sc/118781

Inside the Minds of Masters Episode 6: SlayersMMA TvP (1 rax expand vs 1 gate expand)
Just Replay: http://drop.sc/129312

Inside the Minds of Masters Episode 7: FXoz PvP (2gate expand vs blink all in)
Just Replay: http://drop.sc/162099

Inside the Minds of Masters Episode 8: Stephano ZvZ (14/14 vs 10pool)
Just Replay: http://drop.sc/167037


Feedback is always appreciated.
-MrLlama
www.youtube.com/mrllamasc << Casting & Analysis Videos
DawN883
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden558 Posts
March 30 2012 10:35 GMT
#2
These are very well done. Keep them coming!
If the dead are not raised, Let us eat and drink, for tomorrow we die
Demicore
Profile Joined October 2011
France503 Posts
March 30 2012 10:47 GMT
#3
Nice initiative sir, gonna watch Ep 2.
"I love male nipples in starcraft; the two go together so well." ~Tasteless
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 30 2012 11:03 GMT
#4
I will check these out. 20 minute pure strategy talk is going to be a joy.
I had a good night of sleep.
Ryndika
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1489 Posts
March 30 2012 11:04 GMT
#5
Lovely to see peopel contributing by giving strategical advice. Gonna check this vid now out and give feedback.
as useful as teasalt
FilthyRake
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States473 Posts
March 30 2012 13:27 GMT
#6
Just watched episode 2 and it was fantastic. keep up the good work
Co-owner of PSISTORM Gaming
BlueBoxSC
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States582 Posts
March 30 2012 16:05 GMT
#7
Always support new content production!
Sadly, I can't watch them now, but I'll give feedback later tonight.
BwCBlueBox.837
ToD
Profile Joined December 2008
France222 Posts
March 30 2012 16:18 GMT
#8
i never watch those tutorials but gave episode 2 a shot, pretty good analysis overall but sacraficing the probe to see 5 marines did not tell him its a 2rax did it ? i mean those 5 marines were only pumped from that first baracks.
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MrLlama
Profile Joined December 2010
United States454 Posts
March 30 2012 16:49 GMT
#9
On March 31 2012 01:18 ToD wrote:
i never watch those tutorials but gave episode 2 a shot, pretty good analysis overall but sacraficing the probe to see 5 marines did not tell him its a 2rax did it ? i mean those 5 marines were only pumped from that first baracks.


Unfortunately I did not explain myself the best here and I kind of formed an absolute when there was still a slight possibility of change.

first off, he scouted 7 marines, not 5. I made that mistake in my commentary despite actually seeing the 7 marines shoot it.

The first marine popped out at 3:10
If he continually made marines from the barracks he would have 7 marines 150 seconds later, or at 5:40.

MC scouts 7 marines at 5:25
This right here is a clear indicator that MC went reactor first on his barracks

Now here is where I went wrong. There is still a (much smaller) chance that MvP is going for a reactor expand. What MC should have done is brought his stalkers with that push so he could continually just poke up the ramp and attack marines until a marauder was shown from MVP. Then he could be certain of the attack.

However, the reason MC did not do this is because all he really needed to know was that his opponent opened with a reactor on that barracks and was continually pumping marines. The response to both a 1 rax reactor expand and a 2 rax should both be the same. Get down the extra gateways and take that robo at about 34/35. Then cut probes a little bit after if you see the push coming, which he did with his stalker at the xel naga tower.

I should have been more clear about this in my video and I'm sorry for using an absolute saying it was a 2rax. I need to start watching replays before I cast them so I can do this analysis beforehand instead of just on the spot lol
www.youtube.com/mrllamasc << Casting & Analysis Videos
KING CHARLIE :D
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States447 Posts
March 30 2012 16:53 GMT
#10
I think it's wonderful that you're helping out players with your obviously vast sea of RTS knowledge. Anyone who has played RTS as long as you have will definitely have some nuggets of wisdom! thanks!
NO TEAM WILL EVER BE AS GOOD AS TEAM LIQUID!
DawN883
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden558 Posts
March 30 2012 17:08 GMT
#11
You have to make a terran video now Your analysis is so good! :D
If the dead are not raised, Let us eat and drink, for tomorrow we die
MrLlama
Profile Joined December 2010
United States454 Posts
March 30 2012 20:51 GMT
#12
On March 31 2012 02:08 StimFesT wrote:
You have to make a terran video now Your analysis is so good! :D


Thanks you!

Yeah episode 3 is going to be a terran replay. I'm going to make sure to get a decent number of all 3 at the start and then from there do user requests and such. So if you see MKP hold off some timing push that you always lose to, i'll have you send me his replay and I'll analyze why he was able to hold it.
www.youtube.com/mrllamasc << Casting & Analysis Videos
Mongolbonjwa
Profile Joined January 2012
Finland376 Posts
March 30 2012 21:04 GMT
#13
I hope you do some terran vs zerg analysis
MrLlama
Profile Joined December 2010
United States454 Posts
March 30 2012 22:05 GMT
#14
On March 31 2012 06:04 Mongolbonjwa wrote:
I hope you do some terran vs zerg analysis


In fact, tvz is actually next on the list. I'm currently out of state but I get back in tonight so I should have episode 3 uploaded sometime around midnight, maybe a little before. Any specific build in tvz?
www.youtube.com/mrllamasc << Casting & Analysis Videos
MrLlama
Profile Joined December 2010
United States454 Posts
March 31 2012 18:31 GMT
#15
Alright everyone, episode 3 in the series is up. It is a TvZ following Taeja through his reactor hellion expand. It is a little bit of a longer video and currently at the start there is about 19 seconds where I do not talk so I can let the graphics glitch finish and I can edit it out.

I set youtube to edit the video out so it starts right when I start talking so it should be changing sometime in the next hour or two depending on how slow youtube is for editing videos.

feedback always appreciated

-Llama
www.youtube.com/mrllamasc << Casting & Analysis Videos
MrLlama
Profile Joined December 2010
United States454 Posts
April 01 2012 21:10 GMT
#16
Episode 4 has been added. Nerchio ZvT

This video is aimed at those zergs who wonder why they lose to marine/tank pushes and want to learn the art of counterattacking.

Question: Do you guys prefer these decently long games or would you like me to also include smaller things like defending 2 rax and cannon rushes and such? They aren't quite as analytical but they could still be beneficial in my mind.

-Llama
www.youtube.com/mrllamasc << Casting & Analysis Videos
Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
April 01 2012 21:18 GMT
#17
any chance you can post the replays (or at least sources for dling them), i wanna take a closer look at the morrow game
Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
MrLlama
Profile Joined December 2010
United States454 Posts
April 01 2012 21:40 GMT
#18
On April 02 2012 06:18 Endymion wrote:
any chance you can post the replays (or at least sources for dling them), i wanna take a closer look at the morrow game


I have added the replays to my first post. I'll continue to do this for the rest of the the series.

Thanks!
www.youtube.com/mrllamasc << Casting & Analysis Videos
Sergio1992
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Italy522 Posts
April 02 2012 19:27 GMT
#19
Hi sir, are you gonna make a tvp video? I'm kinda curious! thanks for these videos!
MrLlama
Profile Joined December 2010
United States454 Posts
April 02 2012 23:26 GMT
#20
On April 03 2012 04:27 Sergio1992 wrote:
Hi sir, are you gonna make a tvp video? I'm kinda curious! thanks for these videos!


Yes I will. The first 9 episodes will be of each match up and then from there I will repeat matchups but analyze different builds.

Is there any specific tvp build/pro video that you would like me to analyze?
www.youtube.com/mrllamasc << Casting & Analysis Videos
KrsOne
Profile Joined March 2011
United States64 Posts
April 02 2012 23:56 GMT
#21
I've only watched the second episode but I really liked it a lot and I subscribed. I would like to see you do some 1 1 1 defense pvt, I keep losing to it no matter how much I study it.
Life is to short so love the one you got, cause you might get run over or you might get shot-Sublime
stoicRegret
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada206 Posts
April 03 2012 00:00 GMT
#22
Woa... 2000 views per video. Grats.

I wish i knew the secret :o
MrLlama
Profile Joined December 2010
United States454 Posts
April 03 2012 03:18 GMT
#23
On April 03 2012 08:56 KrsOne wrote:
I've only watched the second episode but I really liked it a lot and I subscribed. I would like to see you do some 1 1 1 defense pvt, I keep losing to it no matter how much I study it.


Sure I'll do a pvt 1-1-1 defense. Is there any specific opener you would like me to showcase defending against it with?

Also, note that there are MANY different styles of the 1-1-1. Identifying the style can help you determine when they'll push out which can be a huge part of determining your success against it so I'll try to cover this the best I can.


On April 03 2012 09:00 stoicRegret wrote:
Woa... 2000 views per video. Grats.

I wish i knew the secret :o


Thanks man!

I actually watch almost all of your intimate with stoic videos so they were definitely an inspiration to start giving my own commentary on replays.
www.youtube.com/mrllamasc << Casting & Analysis Videos
stoicRegret
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada206 Posts
April 03 2012 04:01 GMT
#24
On April 03 2012 12:18 MrLlama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2012 08:56 KrsOne wrote:
I've only watched the second episode but I really liked it a lot and I subscribed. I would like to see you do some 1 1 1 defense pvt, I keep losing to it no matter how much I study it.


Sure I'll do a pvt 1-1-1 defense. Is there any specific opener you would like me to showcase defending against it with?

Also, note that there are MANY different styles of the 1-1-1. Identifying the style can help you determine when they'll push out which can be a huge part of determining your success against it so I'll try to cover this the best I can.


Show nested quote +
On April 03 2012 09:00 stoicRegret wrote:
Woa... 2000 views per video. Grats.

I wish i knew the secret :o


Thanks man!

I actually watch almost all of your intimate with stoic videos so they were definitely an inspiration to start giving my own commentary on replays.


Thanks so much. I didn't want to plug my series, so i didn't mention it. I'm just jealous! haha. Keep it up, i watch yours too. Maybe we should do some ZvX stuff together sometime?
spawnferkel
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany87 Posts
April 03 2012 07:06 GMT
#25
i like
MrLlama
Profile Joined December 2010
United States454 Posts
April 03 2012 15:55 GMT
#26
On April 03 2012 13:01 stoicRegret wrote:

Thanks so much. I didn't want to plug my series, so i didn't mention it. I'm just jealous! haha. Keep it up, i watch yours too. Maybe we should do some ZvX stuff together sometime?


Well then I'll plug it for you. Go check out stoics ZvX series! Lots to be learned

Plus, yes we should get together and make something happen. I'm always open to creating more content
www.youtube.com/mrllamasc << Casting & Analysis Videos
MrLlama
Profile Joined December 2010
United States454 Posts
April 03 2012 22:43 GMT
#27
Episode 5 is up everybody. It has a little different feel to it as this video looks at a player more abusing the current metagame rather than someone playing strong standard play. I still think it is very important for both zerg and protoss players to watch though as it adds a lot more creativity to the match up and could definitely play a factor in how pros play it in the future.
www.youtube.com/mrllamasc << Casting & Analysis Videos
Sergio1992
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Italy522 Posts
April 04 2012 13:27 GMT
#28
On April 03 2012 08:26 MrLlama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2012 04:27 Sergio1992 wrote:
Hi sir, are you gonna make a tvp video? I'm kinda curious! thanks for these videos!


Yes I will. The first 9 episodes will be of each match up and then from there I will repeat matchups but analyze different builds.

Is there any specific tvp build/pro video that you would like me to analyze?

Thanks for the attention sir! I don't know which replays I could recommend you, though , if you need good tvp replays, I would aim for lastshadow replaypack that you can find here
MrLlama
Profile Joined December 2010
United States454 Posts
April 04 2012 21:34 GMT
#29
On April 04 2012 22:27 Sergio1992 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2012 08:26 MrLlama wrote:
On April 03 2012 04:27 Sergio1992 wrote:
Hi sir, are you gonna make a tvp video? I'm kinda curious! thanks for these videos!


Yes I will. The first 9 episodes will be of each match up and then from there I will repeat matchups but analyze different builds.

Is there any specific tvp build/pro video that you would like me to analyze?

Thanks for the attention sir! I don't know which replays I could recommend you, though , if you need good tvp replays, I would aim for lastshadow replaypack that you can find here


I'll take a look in there as well as see what pops up in drop or out of MLG replays or something where a 1-1-1 is defended quite well.
www.youtube.com/mrllamasc << Casting & Analysis Videos
MrLlama
Profile Joined December 2010
United States454 Posts
April 09 2012 19:25 GMT
#30
Happy 1 day after Easter everybody!

here is episode 6! It's a TvP between SlayersMMA and Feast (one of their IEM games).



feedback is always appreciated
www.youtube.com/mrllamasc << Casting & Analysis Videos
MrLlama
Profile Joined December 2010
United States454 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-27 05:46:12
April 27 2012 04:42 GMT
#31
I know it has been a little bit since my last video and I apologize but it was finals week so I was busy studying my butt off.

But I just finished my last final so now I'm back and ready to continue posting!

And as an added bonus, for tonight's cast I'm going to be doing it live

www.twitch.tv/mrllamasc

Starting now!

After I finish casting I will have a little Q&A if the audience has any questions.

Okay the video of the cast is up now! thanks for watching! Tune in next time if you missed it (I'll also try to give more heads up)

www.youtube.com/mrllamasc << Casting & Analysis Videos
Murtag
Profile Joined April 2012
4 Posts
April 27 2012 06:16 GMT
#32
Love the series, amazing work man!!

Keep it up
MrLlama
Profile Joined December 2010
United States454 Posts
April 27 2012 15:22 GMT
#33
On April 27 2012 15:16 Murtag wrote:
Love the series, amazing work man!!

Keep it up


Thanks a lot

if you ever have any specific games of pros that you want explained just link me the replay and if it's decent I'll give an analysis of it.
www.youtube.com/mrllamasc << Casting & Analysis Videos
JoeRasha
Profile Joined April 2012
2 Posts
April 28 2012 20:53 GMT
#34
I like your style. Maybe you can do a series of videos for low league players, like me, to learn strategy. Stuff like what to scout for/when to scout, how to defend against certain builds/punish the opponent for building a certain way. Being adaptable is a huge advantage but I feel like I just pick a build and stick to it regardless of the game circumstances.
MrLlama
Profile Joined December 2010
United States454 Posts
April 30 2012 00:31 GMT
#35
On April 29 2012 05:53 JoeRasha wrote:
I like your style. Maybe you can do a series of videos for low league players, like me, to learn strategy. Stuff like what to scout for/when to scout, how to defend against certain builds/punish the opponent for building a certain way. Being adaptable is a huge advantage but I feel like I just pick a build and stick to it regardless of the game circumstances.


Yeah that wouldn't really fit the best for this series but I'll definitely consider starting another series that looks at more basic stuff for lower league players.

Glad you like the series!
www.youtube.com/mrllamasc << Casting & Analysis Videos
MrLlama
Profile Joined December 2010
United States454 Posts
May 04 2012 04:53 GMT
#36
In 10 minutes (Yay short notice again!) I am going to be starting up an inside the minds of masters in depth look into ZvT. This is going to be much different from the other style where I analyze 1 video after having watched it before and instead I am simply going to run through about 10 replays and just give my thoughts and showcase what I think is important.

Feel free to join me as I give my replay analysis

www.twitch.tv/mrllamasc
www.youtube.com/mrllamasc << Casting & Analysis Videos
MrLlama
Profile Joined December 2010
United States454 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-05 01:43:07
May 05 2012 00:28 GMT
#37
There is going to be ZvZ tonight for the match up.

Vod will be posted in the OP
www.youtube.com/mrllamasc << Casting & Analysis Videos
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