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DreadKnight
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom123 Posts
March 16 2012 04:43 GMT
#281
If it's part of GOMTV's requirements who are any of you to oppose that...? It's their business and within reason they can do what they like.
IntoTheBush
Profile Joined July 2010
United States552 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-16 05:17:22
March 16 2012 05:16 GMT
#282
He's a professional, he needs to look clean. So yes, he should have to shave his beard. Sorry, but just because he commentates our favorite game doesn't mean he gets to be lazy and look like a slob. If anything it will reflect poorly on E-Sports if someone is looking in from the outside. The outsiders see a guy with a scruffy beard casting video games and they think "Another lazy guy who sits around and plays video games all day." Just my opinion
Tektos
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1321 Posts
March 16 2012 05:32 GMT
#283
On March 16 2012 11:31 cosimorondo wrote:
Preferably I would not have to look at his face at all, but since I do, I would prefer that he shaved his beard and saved me from an even more unnerving experience


Wow, you're a dick.
MaV_gGSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1345 Posts
March 16 2012 05:33 GMT
#284
no one should be forced to shave their beard. IRL you're not forced; if you don't shave it off you get sacked
Life's good :D
Go1den
Profile Joined June 2011
England116 Posts
March 16 2012 05:35 GMT
#285
In most cases, people look better without beards. Let's keep it at that.
Iamportal
Profile Joined January 2011
United States184 Posts
March 16 2012 05:42 GMT
#286
I think he projects a more professional sense without a beard than he would if he had one
If you're not attacking, you're probably loosing
Mallidon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Scotland557 Posts
March 16 2012 07:03 GMT
#287
On March 16 2012 08:23 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 08:19 Mallidon wrote:
On March 16 2012 08:06 Torte de Lini wrote:
On March 16 2012 08:05 Mallidon wrote:
I reckon it is his choice tbh. The whole 'beards are not professional' statement is totally not right imo. There are loads of professional people who have beards.

I do find it funny this thread has spawned from one comment Wolf made btw.

<3 TL


Again, the professionalism is set by the views of the organization, not the comparison of leniency by other organizations.


Overly strict rules are set by some organisations, not everyone has to follow them.

Are we really going to get to a stage where we decide that SC2 casting is one of these and ban TLO's manly beard from our screens? Ban Wolf from choosing to grow a beard because he wants to?

I hope not.


How is this overly strict? In what way does it harshly impede one's ability to express themselves? Give me a break, they asked a maintaining of what they view is a professional look and Wolf abides because he prefers his job over his facial hair.

Yeah, I'm sure it's a "ban" on Wolf's beard. They put a no-smoking sign up but replaced the cigarette with the image of Wolf's beard. They even banned mustaches to prevent any confusion on which parts of his face can he grow facial hair.

What if they ban monobrows, or nose hairs! WHAT THEN! WHERE DOES IT STOP?

The TLO thing is just you trying way too hard to be emotionally distraught about the whole thing.


In MY opinion it IS overly strict. And according to most people voting in the poll, he should be allowed to have a beard.

Nuff said.

I think you are taking what I am saying a bit too far, all I am doing is expressing an opinion and I am definitely not 'emotionally distraught'.
Bleh.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
March 16 2012 07:15 GMT
#288
There lies the problem. It's your opinion and not the organizations.

This is as close to TV as he'll get. They want to go for a certain image. Nothing wrong with it.
Poo
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada536 Posts
March 16 2012 07:22 GMT
#289
Cause his ID is Wolf.. I think a beard would suit him nicely. Lol :D
Try hard or don't try at all.
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6255 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-16 07:30:44
March 16 2012 07:27 GMT
#290
GOM can turn this into something positive - they will ask for viewer donations, and if a certain amount is met, Wolf will then not shave and grow a beard. GOM can contribute by matching the money dollar-for-dollar (up to a certain amount). The money will be donated to esports - for example, rather than just inviting big names to play a special tournament, organise some kind of special event where players out of the limelight (and hence struggling) will have some kind of "time in the sun". Or maybe some kind of "e-sports scholarship", or equivalent idea.

Then doing Wolf's casts, he can say he's growing this beard for such-and-such activity in order to grow esports.
ElvisWayCool
Profile Joined March 2010
United States437 Posts
March 16 2012 07:45 GMT
#291
On March 16 2012 16:03 Mallidon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 08:23 Torte de Lini wrote:
On March 16 2012 08:19 Mallidon wrote:
On March 16 2012 08:06 Torte de Lini wrote:
On March 16 2012 08:05 Mallidon wrote:
I reckon it is his choice tbh. The whole 'beards are not professional' statement is totally not right imo. There are loads of professional people who have beards.

I do find it funny this thread has spawned from one comment Wolf made btw.

<3 TL


Again, the professionalism is set by the views of the organization, not the comparison of leniency by other organizations.


Overly strict rules are set by some organisations, not everyone has to follow them.

Are we really going to get to a stage where we decide that SC2 casting is one of these and ban TLO's manly beard from our screens? Ban Wolf from choosing to grow a beard because he wants to?

I hope not.


How is this overly strict? In what way does it harshly impede one's ability to express themselves? Give me a break, they asked a maintaining of what they view is a professional look and Wolf abides because he prefers his job over his facial hair.

Yeah, I'm sure it's a "ban" on Wolf's beard. They put a no-smoking sign up but replaced the cigarette with the image of Wolf's beard. They even banned mustaches to prevent any confusion on which parts of his face can he grow facial hair.

What if they ban monobrows, or nose hairs! WHAT THEN! WHERE DOES IT STOP?

The TLO thing is just you trying way too hard to be emotionally distraught about the whole thing.


In MY opinion it IS overly strict. And according to most people voting in the poll, he should be allowed to have a beard.

Nuff said.

I think you are taking what I am saying a bit too far, all I am doing is expressing an opinion and I am definitely not 'emotionally distraught'.


Your opinion isn't important though... GOM's is.

Nuff said. (but I'll keep going to explain myself)

If they don't want his beard on their cameras, then it won't be there, it's Wolf's choice if he wants to be there or not.

And the poll doesn't ask if Wolf should be allowed to have his beard, it asks if he should shave it or not, which is a different question. I could vote that he be allowed to have his beard and vote that he should shave it off without contradicting myself.

cArn-
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Korea (South)824 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-16 07:48:55
March 16 2012 07:47 GMT
#292
Walking in the woods
You see
A little flower, it has a beard,
So you pick it and you give it to your wife
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Blade Fox
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States215 Posts
March 16 2012 07:50 GMT
#293
I don't want any man beards on my sc2's
Blame it on my A.D.D
Mallidon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Scotland557 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-16 08:04:19
March 16 2012 08:03 GMT
#294
On March 16 2012 16:45 TerlocSG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 16:03 Mallidon wrote:
On March 16 2012 08:23 Torte de Lini wrote:
On March 16 2012 08:19 Mallidon wrote:
On March 16 2012 08:06 Torte de Lini wrote:
On March 16 2012 08:05 Mallidon wrote:
I reckon it is his choice tbh. The whole 'beards are not professional' statement is totally not right imo. There are loads of professional people who have beards.

I do find it funny this thread has spawned from one comment Wolf made btw.

<3 TL


Again, the professionalism is set by the views of the organization, not the comparison of leniency by other organizations.


Overly strict rules are set by some organisations, not everyone has to follow them.

Are we really going to get to a stage where we decide that SC2 casting is one of these and ban TLO's manly beard from our screens? Ban Wolf from choosing to grow a beard because he wants to?

I hope not.


How is this overly strict? In what way does it harshly impede one's ability to express themselves? Give me a break, they asked a maintaining of what they view is a professional look and Wolf abides because he prefers his job over his facial hair.

Yeah, I'm sure it's a "ban" on Wolf's beard. They put a no-smoking sign up but replaced the cigarette with the image of Wolf's beard. They even banned mustaches to prevent any confusion on which parts of his face can he grow facial hair.

What if they ban monobrows, or nose hairs! WHAT THEN! WHERE DOES IT STOP?

The TLO thing is just you trying way too hard to be emotionally distraught about the whole thing.


In MY opinion it IS overly strict. And according to most people voting in the poll, he should be allowed to have a beard.

Nuff said.

I think you are taking what I am saying a bit too far, all I am doing is expressing an opinion and I am definitely not 'emotionally distraught'.


Your opinion isn't important though... GOM's is.

Nuff said. (but I'll keep going to explain myself)

If they don't want his beard on their cameras, then it won't be there, it's Wolf's choice if he wants to be there or not.

And the poll doesn't ask if Wolf should be allowed to have his beard, it asks if he should shave it or not, which is a different question. I could vote that he be allowed to have his beard and vote that he should shave it off without contradicting myself.



And again, someone posting about who's opinion is important or not. I am not stating that MY opinion overrides GOM's, of course it doesn't. I am simply posting my opinion. Last time I looked, open forums were all about that.

Also the poll states 'Poll: Should Wolf shave his beard?'

Implying that if he doesn't shave, he will grow a beard. Implying that the poll is asking 'should he have a beard'.
Bleh.
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
March 16 2012 08:44 GMT
#295
On March 16 2012 16:50 Blade Fox wrote:
I don't want any man beards on my sc2's

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Quintum_
Profile Joined May 2011
United States669 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-16 10:55:38
March 16 2012 08:55 GMT
#296
One thing i dont get is that people are equating having a beard and not being professional. You can have one and still maintain a professional look by keeping nice and trimmed. Just like your hair, if you come to work with your hair all scraggly of course it is going to look unprofessional, but you comb and or gel it to keep it looking nice. Same thing with keeping a tasteful beard.

Edit
This thread is so funny though, wolf gets no fan club but he gets this.
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Shirolol
Profile Joined April 2010
England504 Posts
March 16 2012 09:54 GMT
#297
Real men have beards. People that don't like them can't grow them properly/at all, well known fact! KEEP IT WOLF!
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selaas
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway40 Posts
March 16 2012 10:14 GMT
#298
This should be considered shavery! (Not sure if I need to explain my absolutely fantastic joke) :-/
Ectrid
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany51 Posts
March 16 2012 10:32 GMT
#299
On March 16 2012 10:09 Angel_ wrote:
I feel like Ive read 14 pages of people that don't understand that your boss has more power than you think they do, and sometimes you have to suck it up.


that can only come from an US citizen... poor soul
Nobody is more a slave than the one who considers himself free without being free
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
March 16 2012 10:39 GMT
#300
I support all beards on men.
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