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vrok
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden2541 Posts
March 15 2012 18:52 GMT
#201
On March 16 2012 03:41 Terranist wrote:
we have to shave our beards to bag groceries in the united states so its only fair he has to shave his beard when he broadcasts to thousands of people. plus beards make you look homeless.

Do you have to wear a hair net as well?
"Starcraft 2 very easy game" - White-Ra
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3690 Posts
March 15 2012 18:53 GMT
#202
How about we let wolf not shave it for a month and then vote again? I'm sure as hell in favor of him letting it grow a bit.
Baum
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1010 Posts
March 15 2012 19:01 GMT
#203
On March 16 2012 03:53 Lorch wrote:
How about we let wolf not shave it for a month and then vote again? I'm sure as hell in favor of him letting it grow a bit.


This is not a reality show. T_T
I want to be with those who share secret things or else alone.
uoeahtns
Profile Joined February 2012
52 Posts
March 15 2012 19:02 GMT
#204
I think he should try not shaving. If he doesn't look good in a beard, he can always just shave.
somuchPaiN
Profile Joined March 2012
1 Post
March 15 2012 19:10 GMT
#205
On March 15 2012 20:21 graNite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2012 20:08 Lysanias wrote:
It turned TLO to Chuck Norris, who knows what Wolf would turn in to.

[image loading]
Wolverine?

could call him Wolferine, i think the image looks like mike vogel btw. it reminded me of him right away at least.
ShatterZer0
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1843 Posts
March 15 2012 19:15 GMT
#206
On March 16 2012 02:59 vrok wrote:
You couldn't watch a single sportscast in Sweden without looking at quite a few beards and lots of stubble, so the professional/job/whatever angle is pure social bullshit. Damn christians.


What the hell was with the "Damn christians." comment?

That's both needlessly inflammatory and completely irrelevant...

Jesus had a beard xD
A time to live.
Ectrid
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany51 Posts
March 15 2012 19:23 GMT
#207
On March 16 2012 03:21 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 03:11 Ectrid wrote:
[image loading]
Here you got a picture!

On March 16 2012 02:14 Promethelax wrote:
On March 16 2012 01:53 Ectrid wrote:
As the OP, i want this thread be taken serious. Because little things like this are just the tip of the Iceberg!

"It is on the day that we can conceive of a different state of affairs that a new light falls on our troubles and our suffering and that we decide that these are unbearable." -Sartre


Although I approve of your Sartre quote I'm honestly confused, do you really think this is a thing that needs to be addressed? I love beards, I have a beard but when I worked in a kitchen I had to shave it or wear a beard net, that seems reasonable. Why should it be different in another job? If your employer makes a request involving your personal appearance you have two choices follow their direction or leave the job, it is as simple as that.

Beards are awesome though, I haven't been carded at a liquor store in forever.


Well, did you ever have the feeling, after New Years Day, when all the party and family stuff is over and you are by yourself that times goes by so fast? That there is already another year over? Did you ever feel that way? And can you remember your childhood, when everyday was a great experience? Where you wanted to just stay a little bit longer outside with your friends to play, just 5 minutes, tiny 5 minutes where worth it?

Why do you think these times are over? Because you are an adult and you lost your passion and your interests shifted? Imo the reason is, that now you live in the so called "real life" or "the real world" everyone that already had gone this way, know what i mean.
What is expected of you is to do your work, your old friends mostly don't even live anymore near you, because you had to move away, or they had to move away, because the job requires it. So you spent the rest of your life working, maintaining everything you bought and build, your car, your place, your family and the rest of the time you got you kill in consumption of media, food, books, hobbies, sports....

we can learn from experiences other made:
5 of the most things people on their deathbeds regret are:

1. I wish I’d had the courage to live a life true to myself, not the life others expected of me.
2. I wish I didn’t work so hard.
3. I wish I’d had the courage to express my feelings.
4. I wish I had stayed in touch with my friends.
5. I wish that I had let myself be happier.

You really think, none of these are things you will regret on you own deathbed?
And this is no bullshit, your life will be over, forever.

We live in a world where we could have everything, but the greed of some, lets us waste our time, our life.
Wake up and open your eyes, you are not free, you are as free as they allow you! If you don't follow you will get thrown into prison or worse!

We are born into these systems! Can you really choose? Different Country's are just different human farms! We are controlled by fear! the mass media, education, religion and society!

Can't YOU see, that you ARE blind?


But, as Voltaire says, flies are born to be eaten by spiders and men are born to be consumed by sorrow. And to be a member of a society one must give up freedom. The only way to be truly free of the demands of other people and of society is to exist without any other people, to live as either a god or a beast.

In the words of Aristotle "he who is unable to live in society, or who has no need because he is sufficient for himself, must be either a beast or a god: he is no part of a state. A social instinct is implanted in all men by nature, and yet he who first founded the state was the greatest of benefactors."

So yes, I can see, I am not blind and though I disagree with what you say I believe in your right to say it.


Oh yeah you gotta love freedom of speech! I really have to say, i am quite surprised by your answer!
Thanks for this!

But don't you think, that we now live in a connected world, where we have the communication capabilities, the technology and the production capacity's, to feed every human, to give every human a home and a place and to maintain a certain degree of living standard?

Why can't we work for us? Instead we work for companies, private people or the government! The rich only get richer and those with power only gain more power! While for the most people it gets harder every day...
All i want to say is, we should begin to work for ourselves! Work as and for our species.

I think we can only have a better world, if society wants to change the system.
And most important, people need to understand this concept. Don't call it Socialism, Capitalism or Marxism...
That's pigeonhole thinking.

We fulfill the requirements for a change, only the chains of our minds are holding us back.


Why is this thread btw still running? lol
I really think this thread shows the desire of many for a better world.
Nobody is more a slave than the one who considers himself free without being free
Bengui
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada775 Posts
March 15 2012 19:31 GMT
#208
On March 16 2012 04:15 ShatterZer0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 02:59 vrok wrote:
You couldn't watch a single sportscast in Sweden without looking at quite a few beards and lots of stubble, so the professional/job/whatever angle is pure social bullshit. Damn christians.

Jesus had a beard xD

Quote from the bible ? Jesus is depicted by various artists as having a beard, but that doesn't mean anything... When it comes to religion, artists are more often wrong than right.
Ectrid
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany51 Posts
March 15 2012 19:39 GMT
#209
Credits for this lovely picture goes to "Asha`"!
I'm sorry!
Nobody is more a slave than the one who considers himself free without being free
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15725 Posts
March 15 2012 19:41 GMT
#210
This is a cultural difference. Korea vs Western society.

He works and lives in Korea.

Annnnd that about does it, not really sure what you guys are thinking <_<
SadMachine
Profile Joined October 2010
United States98 Posts
March 15 2012 19:42 GMT
#211
On March 16 2012 01:59 MaV_gGSC wrote:
He needs to, for the sake of professionalism

Who decides that having a beard is unprofessional and not having one is professional? These are social biases that are absurd and need to eradicated.
darkscream
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2310 Posts
March 15 2012 19:44 GMT
#212
all this ridiculous chatter, we don't even know if he "has" to for work. that's just an assumption. Maybe he "has" to because he doesn't like how he looks with a beard? Maybe he "has" to because he's got a nagging G/F? I don't recall him saying GOMTV forces him to shave.
SadMachine
Profile Joined October 2010
United States98 Posts
March 15 2012 19:44 GMT
#213
On March 16 2012 04:31 Bengui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 04:15 ShatterZer0 wrote:
On March 16 2012 02:59 vrok wrote:
You couldn't watch a single sportscast in Sweden without looking at quite a few beards and lots of stubble, so the professional/job/whatever angle is pure social bullshit. Damn christians.

Jesus had a beard xD

Quote from the bible ? Jesus is depicted by various artists as having a beard, but that doesn't mean anything... When it comes to religion, artists are more often wrong than right.

Jesus was a Jewish male living in the Middle East 2000 years ago. He had a beard. The only males that didn't have beards in that area at that time were Romans.
AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
March 15 2012 19:47 GMT
#214
At the bear minimum, it wolf suit his name.
"How are you?" "I am fine, because it is not normal to scream in pain."
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
March 15 2012 19:47 GMT
#215
On March 16 2012 04:23 Ectrid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 03:21 Promethelax wrote:
On March 16 2012 03:11 Ectrid wrote:
[image loading]
Here you got a picture!

On March 16 2012 02:14 Promethelax wrote:
On March 16 2012 01:53 Ectrid wrote:
As the OP, i want this thread be taken serious. Because little things like this are just the tip of the Iceberg!

"It is on the day that we can conceive of a different state of affairs that a new light falls on our troubles and our suffering and that we decide that these are unbearable." -Sartre


Although I approve of your Sartre quote I'm honestly confused, do you really think this is a thing that needs to be addressed? I love beards, I have a beard but when I worked in a kitchen I had to shave it or wear a beard net, that seems reasonable. Why should it be different in another job? If your employer makes a request involving your personal appearance you have two choices follow their direction or leave the job, it is as simple as that.

Beards are awesome though, I haven't been carded at a liquor store in forever.


Well, did you ever have the feeling, after New Years Day, when all the party and family stuff is over and you are by yourself that times goes by so fast? That there is already another year over? Did you ever feel that way? And can you remember your childhood, when everyday was a great experience? Where you wanted to just stay a little bit longer outside with your friends to play, just 5 minutes, tiny 5 minutes where worth it?

Why do you think these times are over? Because you are an adult and you lost your passion and your interests shifted? Imo the reason is, that now you live in the so called "real life" or "the real world" everyone that already had gone this way, know what i mean.
What is expected of you is to do your work, your old friends mostly don't even live anymore near you, because you had to move away, or they had to move away, because the job requires it. So you spent the rest of your life working, maintaining everything you bought and build, your car, your place, your family and the rest of the time you got you kill in consumption of media, food, books, hobbies, sports....

we can learn from experiences other made:
5 of the most things people on their deathbeds regret are:

1. I wish I’d had the courage to live a life true to myself, not the life others expected of me.
2. I wish I didn’t work so hard.
3. I wish I’d had the courage to express my feelings.
4. I wish I had stayed in touch with my friends.
5. I wish that I had let myself be happier.

You really think, none of these are things you will regret on you own deathbed?
And this is no bullshit, your life will be over, forever.

We live in a world where we could have everything, but the greed of some, lets us waste our time, our life.
Wake up and open your eyes, you are not free, you are as free as they allow you! If you don't follow you will get thrown into prison or worse!

We are born into these systems! Can you really choose? Different Country's are just different human farms! We are controlled by fear! the mass media, education, religion and society!

Can't YOU see, that you ARE blind?


But, as Voltaire says, flies are born to be eaten by spiders and men are born to be consumed by sorrow. And to be a member of a society one must give up freedom. The only way to be truly free of the demands of other people and of society is to exist without any other people, to live as either a god or a beast.

In the words of Aristotle "he who is unable to live in society, or who has no need because he is sufficient for himself, must be either a beast or a god: he is no part of a state. A social instinct is implanted in all men by nature, and yet he who first founded the state was the greatest of benefactors."

So yes, I can see, I am not blind and though I disagree with what you say I believe in your right to say it.


Oh yeah you gotta love freedom of speech! I really have to say, i am quite surprised by your answer!
Thanks for this!

But don't you think, that we now live in a connected world, where we have the communication capabilities, the technology and the production capacity's, to feed every human, to give every human a home and a place and to maintain a certain degree of living standard?

Why can't we work for us? Instead we work for companies, private people or the government! The rich only get richer and those with power only gain more power! While for the most people it gets harder every day...
All i want to say is, we should begin to work for ourselves! Work as and for our species.

I think we can only have a better world, if society wants to change the system.
And most important, people need to understand this concept. Don't call it Socialism, Capitalism or Marxism...
That's pigeonhole thinking.

We fulfill the requirements for a change, only the chains of our minds are holding us back.


Why is this thread btw still running? lol
I really think this thread shows the desire of many for a better world.


Why are you surprised by this answer? What other answer could I have given? You are most welcome though.

We do indeed live in such a world. A world where, if there was no human corruption, everyone would be fed and healthy. Everyone would have a roof over their head and the world would be even more over populated, if we did that we would destroy the world we live in even faster. We, in the so called first world, are already using natural resources faster than they can be created and reproducing too fast. Adding more people to this will not help humanity as a whole.

The problem is that each person works for themselves, we cannot work for us because we are not a unity. To work for ourselves, for our species, we would have to intentionally kill off many other members of our species, we have over populated the world and there are no natural predators left to us. We are the most dangerous game and the most dangerous prey.

I don't see how we can have a better world, until we do work as a society to reduce our ease of life and make our species a part of the world instead of acting against it. The concept needs a name for people to understand it, humans define everything within their language so what shall we call it if not those? Societalism? Populism? We must pigeon hole the idea so that a person coming from the outside can understand it quickly and at a glance.

How in the world is this thread showing that desire? It was started to talk about one man's beard and whether or not he has the right to have it in a public area while being employed by a private organization. This thread is silly.
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45184 Posts
March 15 2012 19:51 GMT
#216
On March 16 2012 04:42 SadMachine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 01:59 MaV_gGSC wrote:
He needs to, for the sake of professionalism

Who decides that having a beard is unprofessional and not having one is professional? These are social biases that are absurd and need to eradicated.


Just to elaborate a bit...

In many industries, properly maintained facial hair is allowed, while only out-of-control facial hair (or hair, for that matter) is viewed as unprofessional. Dustin Browder and TotalBiscuit are fine, but early CatsPajamas (think back to when he had that scraggly beard) is a no-go. But then again, CatsPajamas ended up maintaining his facial hair in a professional manner (keeping it short), and now I actually think it's completely gone anyway.

But then again, some companies have a policy that the members be completely clean shaven. Sometimes it's for good reasons, and sometimes it's a bit too restrictive for others' tastes. Regardless, if you don't like that policy, don't work there
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Areon
Profile Joined November 2010
United States273 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-15 19:53:34
March 15 2012 19:53 GMT
#217
No, he cannot grow a beard just as women can never leave the kitchen. People need to learn their place in society and stop complaining about oppression and suck it up. You don't have any free will so stop thinking you do goddamit.

(/sarcasm)
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45184 Posts
March 15 2012 20:01 GMT
#218
On March 16 2012 04:53 Areon wrote:
No, he cannot grow a beard just as women can never leave the kitchen. People need to learn their place in society and stop complaining about oppression and suck it up. You don't have any free will so stop thinking you do goddamit.

(/sarcasm)


I get that you're being sarcastic, but I don't really understand why it's warranted o.O How does the (sarcastic) analogy make sense? In all actuality, women can leave the kitchen... however, for some reason (contract, genetics, etc.) Wolf apparently can't grow a proper beard. Right?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
SiN]
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States540 Posts
March 15 2012 20:02 GMT
#219
this is really fucking stupid
every guy shaves
a lot of people dont like doing it
it's not your business, either
MonkSEA
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia1227 Posts
March 15 2012 20:05 GMT
#220
9/10 times here in Australia, you're educated saying facial hair has to be non-existent or cleanly styled, at my old work we actually were forced to shave AT WORK if it wasn't appropriate :\
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