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Alex is verbose, and you owe it to yourself (and the rest of us) to read the statement in its entirety. Remember, when making comments/claims to provide proper evidence, facts etc. Arguments based on incorrect assumptions, facts and straw men, will be dealt with swiftly. If in doubt, PM a mod or ask IRC. Do NOT spread misinformation, when in doubt, check your sources.

In short, be smart.

Alex comments on Idra:


Orbs Statement: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=319038

Personal attacks against other posters in this thread will be met with a ban -- 14:20 KST
Cheeseypoofs
Profile Joined August 2010
66 Posts
March 09 2012 03:57 GMT
#81
This was written in an utterly professional and admirable fashion. EG again demonstrates how the top tier should act in our community. Thanks guys, and in the future, Convergence Gaming will certainly follow your example. The ideals of a team should always be followed and enforced to the best of their ability, and I'm glad to see you guys doing as such.
TheAlchemist89
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
160 Posts
March 09 2012 03:57 GMT
#82
Umm perfect decision, perfect statement. Well done EG. I am happy that organizations aren't just turning a blind eye to this, but instead are standing up for a solid bit of "virtue" within the community.
LovE-
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1963 Posts
March 09 2012 03:57 GMT
#83
Good move EG.. How would one go about contacting your sponsors? Email, twitter? I've never used twitter, but I think I can make an exception.

I'm glad you took action.
LovE.311 (NA) || @LovE_Sc2
Catchafire2000
Profile Joined August 2010
United States227 Posts
March 09 2012 03:57 GMT
#84
Nothing is wrong with being racist, just be smart about it. I'm not Mr. Sunshine smiling at all the colors under me, but just because I have a viewpoint against a race doesn't mean I should publicly put them down...

Its a pity, because I am sure Orb has tons of black fans.
jabooty
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
March 09 2012 03:57 GMT
#85
I can see the necessity in EG's move here, however I feel really sour about the fact that reddit managed to destroy yet another caster's career.
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
March 09 2012 03:57 GMT
#86
Unfortunate for orb but it was the right decision, good job
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
pullarius1
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States522 Posts
March 09 2012 03:57 GMT
#87
This is a great post. It really captures why and how the community needs to think about stuff like this.
@pullarius1
Kharnage
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia920 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 04:00:37
March 09 2012 03:57 GMT
#88
Really impressive EG. <3 You guys

And just for you + Show Spoiler +
bennyaus
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia1833 Posts
March 09 2012 03:57 GMT
#89
Orb is a legitimately good caster and it is very unfortunate that the community decided to escalate this to a level that it didn't need to be escalated to. All he needed was a stern talking to, so that he was more professional in the future. I am actually disgusted with how much our community likes to go on witch hunts all in the name of 'e-sports'.

There is a huge amount of hypocrisy here when two of the community's favourite players (IdrA and Destiny) frequently use terms which are derogatory towards homosexuals. I am disgusted that the line is drawn here just because Orb is comparatively a nobody who doesn't make EG/QxG money.
I play Random - HuK, DRG + Liquid fan
Vague
Profile Joined April 2011
170 Posts
March 09 2012 03:57 GMT
#90
On March 09 2012 12:51 Champloo wrote:
GJ reddit, you successfully destroyed the casting career of someone who raged in a ladder game.

There are acceptable ways of raging in ladder and he chose the wrong one. Lots of players rage in the same way, but that doesn't make it any better. Actions like that are (or should be enough) to fire any caster from any respectable and professional organization (and, of course, I have in mind organizations outside esports as well).
viticuss
Profile Joined December 2010
United States37 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 04:00:02
March 09 2012 03:57 GMT
#91
Perfect. Eloquent, intelligent, thoughtful... hats off

edit: Why should someone be allowed to rise to the top of e-sports (when there are clearly equally qualified people begging for a chance) when they choose to be hateful in such a manner.
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 03:59:32
March 09 2012 03:57 GMT
#92
THANK YOU.

I don't think Orb deserved to lose his job outright, but I certainly respect that EG is willing to set a standard for professionalism, and frankly, our communities values.
Sprungjeezy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1313 Posts
March 09 2012 03:57 GMT
#93
Hell, it's about time.

Not too shocked people talked to your sponsors after this -

"Jake has said this was not him last night, that he went to bed, that he has a couple of friends who he shared his account with - which obviously he's not supposed to do - and that he woke up to this shit storm.

Now, you all can choose to believe Jake or not. We at EG are all going to believe him, but have told him that if we find out that this is not the case, your story does not flush, and this is your behaviour and you continue to act this way, then you will be very, very quickly removed from our world."


After reading this it seemed like you might try (or at least were wishing) to make it seem like baseless complaints and not really investigate it, but after you were contacted by sponsors you understood how real the shit just got. Regardless, I'm glad the way you handled it (even if I personally view it as your hand was forced to deal with it). It's really too bad the way Orb tried to handle this not to mention childish.
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
March 09 2012 03:57 GMT
#94
Excellent post by Alexander Garfield.

We still have bad eggs in our community, but I'm glad that enough people care enough about decency and respect that Orb lost his job over this.
Utinni
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1196 Posts
March 09 2012 03:57 GMT
#95
On March 09 2012 12:55 Huitzi wrote:
I didn't email any sponsor nor do I participate in much of the drama that happens around Sc2, but this post shows that you're trying to form eSports as a mature environment in which one can be competitive in. I am glad that you wrote this response and I hope that in the future kids will think twice before they type anything into chat, not because of fearing what might happen to them but because it is wrong, plain and simple. I will be contacting your sponsors and I hope many do the same, you have shown that you really care about the community, your values, and the dignity of others. What I hope you would do is link a page with your sponsors and their contact information, so that we could send positive comments about your response on this matter.


Good call. support this post totally.
“... you don’t have to be Sun freakin Tzu to know that real fighting isn’t about killing or even hurting the other guy, it’s about scaring him enough to call it a day.” - Max Brooks: World War Z
kilerz
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada2 Posts
March 09 2012 03:58 GMT
#96
Counter-Strike players (mostly White and Asian) decided that it would be fun to masquerade as an African-American Counter-Strike team.


Just curious... why is it ok to refer to Caucasians/Europeans as "white" but not African-Americans as "black" and Asians as either "yellow" or "brown"?

Anyone else see the problem with this statement?

User was warned for this post
Kvz
Profile Joined March 2010
United States463 Posts
March 09 2012 03:58 GMT
#97
The words, "A chink in the armor" got someone fired from ESPN. It ruined their career. I agreed with that move and I agree with this move as well.

Is it the same situation? Probably not, but I can respect an organization that is willing to make moves like this maintain professionalism.

We want esports to matter. We want it to mean something. This is a step in the right direction.
NrG.Kvz
RonNation
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States385 Posts
March 09 2012 03:58 GMT
#98
fuck that

User was warned for this post
BilltownRunner
Profile Joined July 2010
United States229 Posts
March 09 2012 03:58 GMT
#99
On March 09 2012 12:50 kibeth wrote:
I actually find your post overly condescending and obnoxious, and I like EG as an organization.

It's kind of like if I stole a toy from a grocery store when I was 8. Later in life I work there, and somehow someone finds out that a decade ago I stole a 99cent toy, and I was fired. Sounds ridiculous right?


You are comparing stealing a 99cent toy as an 8 year old to an adult calling people n*****'s and f**''s? Sounds ridiculous, right?
mnu
Profile Joined October 2010
4 Posts
March 09 2012 03:58 GMT
#100
I have never been a EG fan but today they - and especially alex - have really earned my respect.
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