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Alex is verbose, and you owe it to yourself (and the rest of us) to read the statement in its entirety. Remember, when making comments/claims to provide proper evidence, facts etc. Arguments based on incorrect assumptions, facts and straw men, will be dealt with swiftly. If in doubt, PM a mod or ask IRC. Do NOT spread misinformation, when in doubt, check your sources. In short, be smart. Alex comments on Idra: Orbs Statement: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=319038 Personal attacks against other posters in this thread will be met with a ban -- 14:20 KST | ||
elis
Sweden69 Posts
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Sadistx
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
This might have been a slight overreaction, but for an organization of EG's caliber, it's better to err on the side of caution. | ||
flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
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antitrop
United States29 Posts
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taintmachine
United States431 Posts
now they are on the same team LOL | ||
Oreo7
United States1647 Posts
Thank you so much. This was necessary. Racism can't be a part of our community, and regardless of whether what Orb was thinking when he said "nigger" he needed to understand that the word is widely offensive and carries weight. He didn't care about that and for that reason I don't think he should have a public job in our community. Thank you for this post, Mr Garfield, I didn't really like you before but you've won yourself a fan. | ||
Gecko
United States519 Posts
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Vekalisk
Australia137 Posts
I'm also extremely curious as to wondering why people would contact sponsors to show their outrage after such little time spent on the matter and no EG comments being made on it yet, that's just asking for hurt if you're wanting this scene to grow. Thanks for the post Alex, really well written, constructed and it makes sense. And although I share wildly different opinions on the context of these words, I do agree with your decision wholeheartedly and hope that people are willing to tell your sponsors that they were wrong and aren't going to change their view on EG in any way shape or form based upon some mistakes that weren't in EG's control. | ||
Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
On March 09 2012 12:57 VirgilSC2 wrote: I can see the necessity in EG's move here, however I feel really sour about the fact that reddit managed to destroy yet another caster's career. can't make an omelet without breaking a couple eggs. | ||
ineedaicon
United States17 Posts
Think before you act people...why would you contact sponsors before a statement is released. They need to look into the claims and figure out what action needs to be taken and THEN WRITE THE STATEMENT. Why would you put a team in hot water before they made a decision because of a player on the team. Its the same thing when Grubby lost his steel series sponsor. People immediately said "I am not buying this product anymore" "wow you dropped Grubby well cya steel series I am going to razer" With that said I am happy with the action taken and hope we as a community can learn from it. | ||
hiyo_bye
United States737 Posts
On March 09 2012 12:54 BandonBanshee wrote: How is anyone suprised....Is there actually a job where you can say Nigger and not be fired? (Besides a prison guard) Laddering isn't his job, I don't think... But I assume there is a TON of trashtalking in sports like basketball, football, etc, and I'm sure there are worse instances of badmouthing by professional athletes, only these cases aren't so easily captured and delivered for thousands of people to see... | ||
Zzoram
Canada7115 Posts
On March 09 2012 12:59 pugowar wrote: What orb said - in the past - was obviously not good. That being said, he is a young man, who made a mistake (or several mistakes in a chain and acted extremely immature). While he should be punished, I think that a complete dismissal is way over punishment. It feels to me as though EG and their sponsors gave in to a mob mentality here - and should be careful to allow others so much power over their decision making process. While racism is not to be tolerated, I would think that Orb would be warned that his actions are not to be tolerated, told if he did it again he would be fired, and suspended for part of the season or something else. I guess I am more forgiving then most, but we all make mistakes, and typically are given chances to move past them. Even Michael Vick has been given a second chance after being convicted of dogfighting and torturing and killing dogs. He went to jail first. Actions have consequences. | ||
tomatriedes
New Zealand5356 Posts
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lowercase
Canada1047 Posts
America, get over your guilt complex. | ||
Mist7
United States73 Posts
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Ortheas
United States1 Post
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EnderSword
Canada669 Posts
They've been my favourite team, I've got an EG mousepad, and one of the Hoodies and generally watch a lot of the team in general. That certainly ends today. This type of caving in to pressure by a loud, vicious minority of people who were hunting, not out of genuine offense, but to cause drama is an incredible display of horrible judgement and a complete lack of loyalty. I could give two shits about orb...and to be honest, no one could. Nobody REALLY cares about it. It's just something to talk about between events. Totally selling out an employee to save your own ass, especially while completely tolerating IdrA's...existence, and inviting Destiny onto EG sponsors and produced shows is so hypocritical as to be laughable. I don't believe a single damn word Alex Garfield said, and his fake offendedness over this word is so ridiculous it's not worthy of any respect. It's the worst type of fake, two-faced holier-than-thou bullshit you can get. Shove your sanctimonious bullshit and hypocritical policy and fuck off. Or to quote your Own popular Team Member IdrA: "This Game is Retarded" and "The Game is worse because of Fags like you" User was warned for this post | ||
BluemoonSC
SoCal8903 Posts
keep up the great work at EG! | ||
KhAmun
United States1005 Posts
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Tydrokos
United States56 Posts
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