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Alex is verbose, and you owe it to yourself (and the rest of us) to read the statement in its entirety. Remember, when making comments/claims to provide proper evidence, facts etc. Arguments based on incorrect assumptions, facts and straw men, will be dealt with swiftly. If in doubt, PM a mod or ask IRC. Do NOT spread misinformation, when in doubt, check your sources. In short, be smart. Alex comments on Idra: Orbs Statement: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=319038 Personal attacks against other posters in this thread will be met with a ban -- 14:20 KST | ||
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Takezou
United States320 Posts
On March 09 2012 13:02 KhAmun wrote: I don't understand why people would go to their sponsors, what an ignorant action to take... They do it because that is how they believe things will get done. Whether you agree with them or not it makes sense. | ||
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On March 09 2012 12:51 PowerDes wrote: What a joke. Let this be a warning guys, be on your bestest behavior when playing ladder games or the internet will destroy your reputation. It's that's what you believe ... GOOD. | ||
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taintmachine
United States431 Posts
On March 09 2012 13:01 tomatriedes wrote: The fact that he ignores Idra and Incontrol calling people faggots makes this post pretty hypocritical. well, none of the bosses majored whatever sociology fields would make one sensitive to getting called or seeing/hearing someone get called a faggot, so they are safe. in before "lol south park said faggot isn't a bad word deerrrp" | ||
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Champloo
Germany1850 Posts
On March 09 2012 12:57 pullarius1 wrote: This is a great post. It really captures why and how the community needs to think about stuff like this. I dont know. Calling people the n-word gets you removed from EG. Calling people fags is ok though? | ||
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Oreo7
United States1647 Posts
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On March 09 2012 13:02 Megabuster123 wrote: I can't believe Reddit ruined this poor bastards career....Jesus christ. The starcraft community has shown anything but maturity with all of this tabloid TMZ bullshit. Orb has no one to blame but Orb. | ||
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Mr.Rager
United States59 Posts
For the record, I do want to point out that I don't think Orb is "a racist." As mentioned above, I think that to make such a claim would be to misunderstand the nature of contemporary racism. This, of course, does not lessen the severity of his actions, or the extent to which they are unacceptable and inexcusable, but it's still an important distinction to make. I don't even understand what you're trying to say here. You release him, not because he's a racist, but because of his actions? People are making this blown way out of proportion and I don't feel orb should have this type of punishment. Maybe have him apologize and put him on a week break, but absolutely releasing him for saying a word that may offend somebody. Because god forbid we offend someone. It's not even like it was under your supervision or on the EG Master Cup, it was on his own stream where he can say what he wants. It's his content. | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On March 09 2012 12:59 Luepert wrote: Pretty weird when you get fired for getting mad while playing a video game. At pretty much any other job you can't get fired for BMing someone in a video game on your own free time. because at any other job, BM'ing people in game is completely irrelevant to your job. In this case it would be like going into the store you work at, on your day off and being a dick to customers. You would get fired for that. | ||
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Ercster
United States603 Posts
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mcleod
Canada350 Posts
i think hes a great caster, yes he said some awful things no need to fuck his shit up tho grow up EG | ||
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
On March 09 2012 13:02 TheWorldToCome wrote: Uhh I think Orb destroyed Orb's carrer, you can't put all the blame on reddit. He could have simply admitted his faults and issue a formal apology for his past behavior. Not claim that it was someone else, or that he was under the influence or that it was a non issue. Shitty excuses don't fly. | ||
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momonami5
United States109 Posts
On March 09 2012 12:59 Luepert wrote: Pretty weird when you get fired for getting mad while playing a video game. At pretty much any other job you can't get fired for BMing someone in a video game on your own free time. if a pizza guy was out calling ppl n word on the street, then ppl complained to the employer " hey man I'm not coming back to your shop if you gonna hire racist" pretty sure the guy would be fired. when the guy is in the wrong and the fans and supporters dont' forgive him then he will be terminated in any business. those are potential customers who will forever not respect you for letting a racist stay in the company. They will view you as a racist company, and everyone who see's the outcome will follow the same steps. Even if orb isn't racist, he is doing something 10-12 yr old in halo and counter strike doing calling ppl n word. he need to grow up man. Not like it the end of orb forever perhaps people will forgive him but he gonna have to start over now. Lets be real here, orb didn't even man up , he tried to lie at first and made it worse. which shows how can I trust orb isn't really racist and just saying sorry and i'm not racist just to keep his fans? | ||
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bennyaus
Australia1833 Posts
On March 09 2012 13:03 Nick! wrote: I'm sorry but after this valiant and noble post, how can alex let IdrA get away with calling people ''faggots'' etc on Stream. IdrA earns EG money. Fans choose to be willfully ignorant about someone they idolise as opposed to Orb who they envy more than idolise for being good enough to cast top level games. | ||
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ZerguufOu
United States107 Posts
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DanLee
Canada316 Posts
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bro_fenix
United States132 Posts
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Fission
Canada1184 Posts
On March 09 2012 13:02 NuclearWINtr wrote: Why would someone post the screenshots of orb typing that though. That is the part I find most deplorable about this that someone would intentionally try to damage the position of someone who has helped the community. While what orb did certainly was juvenile it did not cause any damage to anyone. To the person on reddit who caused this I can only say that what you did is an action which has caused nothing but damage to people. What may have offended you has caused offense to many others and has led to the removal of a hard-working man from his position. Was it worth it? Yes, absolutely. | ||
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ObliviousNA
United States535 Posts
On March 09 2012 13:03 Nick! wrote: I'm sorry but after this valiant and noble post, how can alex let IdrA get away with calling people ''faggots'' etc on Stream. Agree 100%. Would like to hear a response from Alex Garfield. | ||
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aithran
16 Posts
I can say that I'm extremely proud to be a Starcraft, and in particular, EG afficionado. | ||
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ConsummateK
United States98 Posts
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