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Alex is verbose, and you owe it to yourself (and the rest of us) to read the statement in its entirety. Remember, when making comments/claims to provide proper evidence, facts etc. Arguments based on incorrect assumptions, facts and straw men, will be dealt with swiftly. If in doubt, PM a mod or ask IRC. Do NOT spread misinformation, when in doubt, check your sources.

In short, be smart.

Alex comments on Idra:


Orbs Statement: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=319038

Personal attacks against other posters in this thread will be met with a ban -- 14:20 KST
whiterabbit
Profile Joined June 2009
2675 Posts
March 09 2012 04:02 GMT
#141
Awesome, Reddit witch-hunters won and we lost one really good caster. :/

Next on Reddit: groups being made to regularly check trash cans of pro gamers for evidence of misbehave. I wouldn't be surprised. :/
NUTELLA y u no make me skinny?!?
StarcraftAlaska
Profile Joined August 2011
United States26 Posts
March 09 2012 04:02 GMT
#142
I agree with the comments here and I'm glad that even those who disagree with this deliberation are coming to the table to discuss it rationally and maturely. Lets continue to show the world that we dare to be more respectful in our discourse. I'm proud of you SC2 community.
"Not even god could f*** up that build"
Esk23
Profile Joined July 2011
United States447 Posts
March 09 2012 04:02 GMT
#143
"There is no more racist word than n*****" double standard at it's best, great job.
guluru
Profile Joined August 2010
United States83 Posts
March 09 2012 04:02 GMT
#144
I feel that this sucks, but it's understandable. I'm in disbelief that people contacted the sponsors so fast, that just blows my mind that people would do that so soon
TheWorldToCome
Profile Joined January 2012
United States452 Posts
March 09 2012 04:02 GMT
#145
On March 09 2012 12:57 VirgilSC2 wrote:
I can see the necessity in EG's move here, however I feel really sour about the fact that reddit managed to destroy yet another caster's career.


Uhh I think Orb destroyed Orb's carrer, you can't put all the blame on reddit.
Starcraft 2 was designed to have a best race. You play the worst one.
Kerwin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States220 Posts
March 09 2012 04:02 GMT
#146
Hmmm, maybe someone can shed some light on this CS team for me? Were they doing things that would be considered racist such as portraying a stereotype while pretending to be African-Americans? Otherwise I don't understand how it's considered racist. If they pretended to be 3 African-Americans and 2 Asians but were white would it still be racist? I don't see how pretending to be a different person online is racist (obviously please shed some light if there is more to this story than the OP mentioned)
Oerbaa
Profile Joined October 2011
Scotland184 Posts
March 09 2012 04:02 GMT
#147
He deserved what he got in terms of lying to EG management but your going on about this whole rant about how you hate people saying the n-word, yet ive seen one of your players say it multiple times on twitter, although the way Orb was using the word was in a completely racist way unlike the player, you handled this really well though, he made a blatant lie up to try and worm his way out of punishment but the Reddit detectives got onto that, he's got his punishment just hope the Sc2 community doesn't blacklist Orb for ladder rage.
I came here to kick as and drink milk, and ive finished my milk
Twiggs
Profile Joined January 2011
United States600 Posts
March 09 2012 04:02 GMT
#148
On March 09 2012 12:55 Liquid`NonY wrote:
I respect this decision and reasoning. I share pretty much every opinion expressed by Alex in this statement.

Seconded. I've never heard a racist comment on your stream or anything else that is offensive. You're a beacon of light in this community NoNy!
My life for Auir | FLASH . JD . BISU . HERO . Nony . Incontrol . FIGHTING
SerafeimSC
Profile Joined September 2011
98 Posts
March 09 2012 04:02 GMT
#149
Up next on the agenda.... Destiny!
I love you like dora loves maps, and the popes toilet holy craps!
Megabuster123
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada1837 Posts
March 09 2012 04:02 GMT
#150
I can't believe Reddit ruined this poor bastards career....Jesus christ. The starcraft community has shown anything but maturity with all of this tabloid TMZ bullshit.
Oreo7
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1647 Posts
March 09 2012 04:02 GMT
#151
On March 09 2012 13:01 lowercase wrote:
This entire thing is retarded. If he had raged and cursed and used all manner of foul language except the word "nigger," he would be in the clear. It just shows that the taboo the word has in the world, most especially American society, is so extreme even saying it in a completely different, racially-empty context is considered the greatest transgression.

America, get over your guilt complex.


This is bad logic. "Nigger" has huge societal implications and is a unique word and that warrants unique treatment. Alex (ottersareneat? Mr. Garfield? idk) made a good argument for why it carries so much weight, you just sort of ignored this.
Stork HerO and Protoss everywhere - redfive on bnet
jenzebubble
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States183 Posts
March 09 2012 04:02 GMT
#152
Why do you chide the community for homophobic language when you house one of the worst offenders? Keep it sleazy, Alex Garfield.
"It's like waxing your balls, it hurts like a biiiitch but after they are silky smooth...." -Kennigit
NuclearWINtr
Profile Joined February 2011
United States125 Posts
March 09 2012 04:02 GMT
#153
Why would someone post the screenshots of orb typing that though. That is the part I find most deplorable about this that someone would intentionally try to damage the position of someone who has helped the community. While what orb did certainly was juvenile it did not cause any damage to anyone. To the person on reddit who caused this I can only say that what you did is an action which has caused nothing but damage to people. What may have offended you has caused offense to many others and has led to the removal of a hard-working man from his position.

Was it worth it?
cooked
Profile Joined December 2010
China1238 Posts
March 09 2012 04:03 GMT
#154
Had to be done. Good thoughtful writeup, glad EG stood up for what had to be done.
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
March 09 2012 04:03 GMT
#155
Thanks for this, you didn't have to include as in depth of a statement but it was a good read and I gained a lot of respect for EG, in addition you made the stand at the derisive comments and never included any lies that may have been said to EG. Much respect.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
integrity
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1014 Posts
March 09 2012 04:03 GMT
#156
god damn alex. why do you have to be such a fine educated man.
MercilessMonkey
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada150 Posts
March 09 2012 04:03 GMT
#157
Glad you reacted as quickly and appropriately as you did

Seems reasonable to me to give an organization a few days to figure situations like these out; I'm surprised people were already raging at sponsors within a day. Hopefully no lasting damage was done, especially since you acted pretty fast all things considered.
Nick!
Profile Joined March 2011
Scotland701 Posts
March 09 2012 04:03 GMT
#158
I'm sorry but after this valiant and noble post, how can alex let IdrA get away with calling people ''faggots'' etc on Stream.
iloveAthene
Profile Joined June 2011
186 Posts
March 09 2012 04:03 GMT
#159
On March 09 2012 12:55 Liquid`NonY wrote:
I respect this decision and reasoning. I share pretty much every opinion expressed by Alex in this statement.


Always a voice of reason. Love you bro
Calebcalebcaleb
Profile Joined June 2011
United States22 Posts
March 09 2012 04:03 GMT
#160
On March 09 2012 12:51 Champloo wrote:
GJ reddit, you successfully destroyed the casting career of someone who raged in a ladder game.


So true...
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