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Orb Dismissed from Evil Geniuses Broadcasts - Page 6
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Alex is verbose, and you owe it to yourself (and the rest of us) to read the statement in its entirety. Remember, when making comments/claims to provide proper evidence, facts etc. Arguments based on incorrect assumptions, facts and straw men, will be dealt with swiftly. If in doubt, PM a mod or ask IRC. Do NOT spread misinformation, when in doubt, check your sources. In short, be smart. Alex comments on Idra: Orbs Statement: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=319038 Personal attacks against other posters in this thread will be met with a ban -- 14:20 KST | ||
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Acronysis
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I respect EG more than I did before all this drama. | ||
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pirates
United States701 Posts
On March 09 2012 12:51 Champloo wrote: GJ reddit, you successfully destroyed the casting career of someone who raged in a ladder game. yep. I dont feel Alex overreacted, he did what he had to. The community overreacted and fucked over Orb, he didnt deserve this. Hope you are all proud of yourselfs for wasting Alex's time and ruining a great opportunity for Orb over text on the internet. | ||
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UrielSC
Canada143 Posts
Gl to orb in the future | ||
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Kuja
United States1759 Posts
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Deleted User 47542
1484 Posts
On March 09 2012 12:50 kibeth wrote: I actually find your post overly condescending and obnoxious, and I like EG as an organization. It's kind of like if I stole a toy from a grocery store when I was 8. Later in life I work there, and somehow someone finds out that a decade ago I stole a 99cent toy, and I was fired. Sounds ridiculous right? Did your school not teach you what a logical fallacy is? | ||
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Skuller
United States197 Posts
Interesting that the post addressed the action and not what Orb stated after the witchhunt started. Best of luck to Orb. | ||
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ePLocust
United States587 Posts
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babylon
8765 Posts
On March 09 2012 12:55 kibeth wrote: Nobody starts giant shit storms on reddit cause incontrol used to sit there on state of the game and outright call people faggots, that should be viewed as just as vile as this, AND he did it while actually representing EG. This is just a case of him not being popular enough to have his mistakes ignored. Let's not forget IdrA's ladder rage and liberal use of "faggot." I laughed out loud reading that last section at the end about wishing the community would fight homophobia too. Hilarious. | ||
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spancho
United States161 Posts
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Zzoram
Canada7115 Posts
On March 09 2012 12:57 bennyaus wrote: Orb is a legitimately good caster and it is very unfortunate that the community decided to escalate this to a level that it didn't need to be escalated to. All he needed was a stern talking to, so that he was more professional in the future. I am actually disgusted with how much our community likes to go on witch hunts all in the name of 'e-sports'. There is a huge amount of hypocrisy here when two of the community's favourite players (IdrA and Destiny) frequently use terms which are derogatory towards homosexuals. I am disgusted that the line is drawn here just because Orb is comparatively a nobody who doesn't make EG/QxG money. This is entirely Orb's fault. If he admitted what he did and made a formal apology and then did some charitable event to make up for it, people would have forgiven him. Instead he chose to lie about it and attack the people who exposed him. He demonstrated that he never felt any remorse for what he did and had no respect for his boss, the community, or his job. | ||
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PhsX
United States12 Posts
On March 09 2012 12:50 kibeth wrote: I actually find your post overly condescending and obnoxious, and I like EG as an organization. It's kind of like if I stole a toy from a grocery store when I was 8. Later in life I work there, and somehow someone finds out that a decade ago I stole a 99cent toy, and I was fired. Sounds ridiculous right? As a senior in college earning a certification to teach secondary school, we were all warned as freshman that almost any offense against us legally could stop us from being certified. One horror story was centered around stealing a coke. A bottle of coke caused a guy a 6-month headache before getting his certification to teach. Get a DUI or MIP? You might as well change majors. Your comparison of 8 years old to adulthood doesn't apply, it's too far stretched. It's reasonable to expect that recent actions can affect your future, especially when you're supposed to be a community's role model. | ||
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Luepert
United States1933 Posts
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pugowar
United States142 Posts
While racism is not to be tolerated, I would think that Orb would be warned that his actions are not to be tolerated, told if he did it again he would be fired, and suspended for part of the season or something else. I guess I am more forgiving then most, but we all make mistakes, and typically are given chances to move past them. Even Michael Vick has been given a second chance after being convicted of dogfighting and torturing and killing dogs. | ||
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battyone
United States180 Posts
On March 09 2012 12:55 Labbetuss wrote: People do drastic things when they get upset, especially in a situation like this. I don't they (people who contacted sponsors) did the right thing, but I understand why some reacted that way. It seems overly reactionairy to do it before giving EG a shot to correct the issue. These kinds of things can cost EG a sponship, how the community (I wanted to really say reddit here but it was a lot more than just /r/sc here) feel if Monster pulled support for EG becuase of this and now EG has to close the lair or let go of players? People were going to war at the drop of a hat before the truth came out, and it feels like that applied both an unfair time constraint on EG (Better act fast before we lost sponsors) and had a heavy influence over what their decision was. Basically people need to at least give everyone a fair shot, not just immediately go into full on Judge Dredd mode, we are the community, we can discuss things, we can point out shame, but we should not be judge jury and executioner. It's too easy for things to look one way, and horrible miscarriges of justice to occur. I am not saying that happened here, I do feel it happened with Katu but hey. More importantly we should at least have the decency to let things run their course a bit before we start attacking the funding for a team. | ||
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MaestrO_
United States591 Posts
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SupplyBlockedTV
Belgium313 Posts
On March 09 2012 12:58 kilerz wrote: Just curious... why is it ok to refer to Caucasians/Europeans as "white" but not African-Americans as "black" and Asians as either "yellow" or "brown"? Anyone else see the problem with this statement? And nigger comes from latin niger, meaning black :D | ||
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Cel.erity
United States4890 Posts
On March 09 2012 12:51 PowerDes wrote: What a joke. Let this be a warning guys, be on your bestest behavior when playing ladder games or the internet will destroy your reputation. Or maybe your worst behavior shouldn't include spouting racist bullshit, then you'll never have to worry!  | ||
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TheSwamp
United States1497 Posts
On March 09 2012 12:57 Catchafire2000 wrote: Nothing is wrong with being racist, just be smart about it. I'm not Mr. Sunshine smiling at all the colors under me, but just because I have a viewpoint against a race doesn't mean I should publicly put them down... Its a pity, because I am sure Orb has tons of black fans. What the actual fuck | ||
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garbodor
269 Posts
On March 09 2012 12:59 Kuja wrote: EG just lost one fan. They shouldn't of dismissed Orb. Did you read the post? | ||
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Razuik
United States409 Posts
On March 09 2012 12:50 kibeth wrote: I actually find your post overly condescending and obnoxious, and I like EG as an organization. It's kind of like if I stole a toy from a grocery store when I was 8. Later in life I work there, and somehow someone finds out that a decade ago I stole a 99cent toy, and I was fired. Sounds ridiculous right? Yeah, if the N-Word used in a malicious way was anywhere near as petty as the theft of a 99cent toy. | ||
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