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Orb Dismissed from Evil Geniuses Broadcasts - Page 4

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Alex is verbose, and you owe it to yourself (and the rest of us) to read the statement in its entirety. Remember, when making comments/claims to provide proper evidence, facts etc. Arguments based on incorrect assumptions, facts and straw men, will be dealt with swiftly. If in doubt, PM a mod or ask IRC. Do NOT spread misinformation, when in doubt, check your sources.

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Alex comments on Idra:


Orbs Statement: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=319038

Personal attacks against other posters in this thread will be met with a ban -- 14:20 KST
kupii
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1 Post
March 09 2012 03:54 GMT
#61
Hey Alexander Garfield, you're an idiot. Also, thanks for the history lesson.

User was banned for this post.
DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
March 09 2012 03:55 GMT
#62
Alex Garfield is a pretty deep person.

And as much as I like orb as a caster and as a person, I guess I really respect the decision.

Kudos.
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ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13389 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 03:58:24
March 09 2012 03:55 GMT
#63
On March 09 2012 12:45 Diamond wrote:
, understandable, but still


My thoughts exaclty. I really feel bad for Orb but from a business standpoint alone there is no other decision EG can actually make

I just hope Orb retains a chance to improve himself in the future. I would hate to see the whole situation make orb's career screwed over though.
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setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
March 09 2012 03:55 GMT
#64
Orb will get more chances, the question is: will he learn from his mistakes? This is the correct move and would have been done by any true professional organization where the opinions of it's employees can cause negative perceptions on the organization as a whole.
Takezou
Profile Joined October 2010
United States320 Posts
March 09 2012 03:55 GMT
#65
On March 09 2012 12:53 Nortac wrote:
Everyone rages, sad to know there are such people who go out of their way and complain about something they've probably all done before, and destroy someone's career in the process.


You mean Orb damaged his own career? How can the blame not be on anyone but Orb at this point?
Deshkar
Profile Joined June 2011
Singapore1244 Posts
March 09 2012 03:55 GMT
#66
Awesome news. If the competitive gaming community is to be taken seriously or with less disdain/mockery, such behaviors and actions should not be tolerated at all especially if one is the public light or under sponsorship.
Utinni
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1196 Posts
March 09 2012 03:55 GMT
#67
Good call. People need to realize that the internet is not a hide-out where you can get away with anything. The world is changing and evolving and people need to realize the shit you post on your account on Facebook or any other forums, you will be accountable for.

The world has changed drastically in the last 20 years... (almost unfathomable) and everyone has to keep up.

Thank you for EG for this post and realizing the severity of the situation.
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Ventor
Profile Joined February 2011
United States336 Posts
March 09 2012 03:55 GMT
#68
Justice has been served.
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Labbetuss
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway568 Posts
March 09 2012 03:55 GMT
#69
On March 09 2012 12:52 battyone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 12:51 yawnoC wrote:
Thanks for the post.
I find it kind of crazy that people contacted EGs sponsors though. That honestly blows my mind o_O


Yeah it feels a lot like people were leveraging the sponsors to influence EGs decision. I am not a fan of moves like that, it's a real scumbag thing in my opinion. I am not defending Orb but I somehow feel that if sponsors/money was not involved in this decision we'd see more leniency for what he did while on his own time.


People do drastic things when they get upset, especially in a situation like this. I don't they (people who contacted sponsors) did the right thing, but I understand why some reacted that way.
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kibeth
Profile Joined August 2010
United States116 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 03:56:21
March 09 2012 03:55 GMT
#70

Nobody starts giant shit storms on reddit cause incontrol used to sit there on state of the game and outright call people faggots, that should be viewed as just as vile as this, AND he did it while actually representing EG. This is just a case of him not being popular enough to have his mistakes ignored.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8748 Posts
March 09 2012 03:55 GMT
#71
I respect this decision and reasoning. I share pretty much every opinion expressed by Alex in this statement.
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Tijoy
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada3 Posts
March 09 2012 03:55 GMT
#72
here are many valid reasons to find the word n----- offensive and repulsive, but for me, the overarching reason is that there is no other word that so efficiently and effectively captures such extreme human injustice and inequality.
i personaly think this is one of the best lines reguarding that word i ave ever read
Huitzi
Profile Joined November 2011
United States33 Posts
March 09 2012 03:55 GMT
#73
I didn't email any sponsor nor do I participate in much of the drama that happens around Sc2, but this post shows that you're trying to form eSports as a mature environment in which one can be competitive in. I am glad that you wrote this response and I hope that in the future kids will think twice before they type anything into chat, not because of fearing what might happen to them but because it is wrong, plain and simple. I will be contacting your sponsors and I hope many do the same, you have shown that you really care about the community, your values, and the dignity of others. What I hope you would do is link a page with your sponsors and their contact information, so that we could send positive comments about your response on this matter.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
March 09 2012 03:56 GMT
#74
The mistake orb made was not spouting racist comments (although it's still not the best thing to do :D), it was lying through his teeth while insulting a whole community, even though he was just delaying the inevitable.
SleepTech
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States222 Posts
March 09 2012 03:56 GMT
#75
Great post. Just having heard of the controversy today, I think this is a pretty good response to it be EG.
Josh111
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States239 Posts
March 09 2012 03:56 GMT
#76
wow... that sucks i love orb and his casting
Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
March 09 2012 03:56 GMT
#77
Wow rough decision to make but it sounds like the right one. There is just too much evidence of orb using a poor choice of words while hes on bnet.
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taintmachine
Profile Joined May 2010
United States431 Posts
March 09 2012 03:56 GMT
#78
idra called people faggots prolly still does

guess you didn't get a degree in homosexual gender sociology whatever studies
KiF1rE
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States964 Posts
March 09 2012 03:56 GMT
#79
well written. I would like to see alot of things gone from our communities, But alot of this is growing pains of a sport, Everyone of the older main stream "real world" sports went through similar things with racism directly. Though why are we really repeating alot of the older mistakes?
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
March 09 2012 03:56 GMT
#80
On March 09 2012 12:52 battyone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 12:51 yawnoC wrote:
Thanks for the post.
I find it kind of crazy that people contacted EGs sponsors though. That honestly blows my mind o_O


Yeah it feels a lot like people were leveraging the sponsors to influence EGs decision. I am not a fan of moves like that, it's a real scumbag thing in my opinion. I am not defending Orb but I somehow feel that if sponsors/money was not involved in this decision we'd see more leniency for what he did while on his own time.

Some people just jumped on this welcome opportunity to hurt EG.
This community sometimes does its best to hurt itself.
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