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Alex is verbose, and you owe it to yourself (and the rest of us) to read the statement in its entirety. Remember, when making comments/claims to provide proper evidence, facts etc. Arguments based on incorrect assumptions, facts and straw men, will be dealt with swiftly. If in doubt, PM a mod or ask IRC. Do NOT spread misinformation, when in doubt, check your sources. In short, be smart. Alex comments on Idra: Orbs Statement: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=319038 Personal attacks against other posters in this thread will be met with a ban -- 14:20 KST | ||
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garbodor
269 Posts
On March 09 2012 13:02 Megabuster123 wrote: I can't believe Reddit ruined this poor bastards career....Jesus christ. The starcraft community has shown anything but maturity with all of this tabloid TMZ bullshit. Reddit made orb spew vitriol because he lost a game on ladder? Huh. | ||
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The Starting Line
United States9 Posts
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Zzoram
Canada7115 Posts
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
On March 09 2012 13:05 Loxley wrote: Everybody using examples "it was in beta! Blabla! Before he was hired by EG!" etc. Maybe people will finally learn that the internet is not the excuse to be a douchebag, even tho you're safely at home behind your screen. Sometimes being a douche will have consquences. After today i bet a lot of would-be pro's are watching their language a bit more.. Replays are saved, vods are made. If you get attention on the internet, you better handle it properly or it will forever stick. The fact that up and coming pro's will watch their language a bit more is probably the best possible outcome of the entire incident. This isn't just ESPORTS, it's life on the internet and social media whenever you're trying to keep a job. | ||
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hejakev
Sweden518 Posts
On March 09 2012 13:00 elis wrote: i fucking hate you redditgoers, your autism ruins this community every time you have one of your shitty witch hunts, i felt so bad for katu and now i feel even worse for orb. User was warned for this post As someone with autism, that wasn't very nice. | ||
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Chaggi
Korea (South)1936 Posts
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sn0wyy
Canada33 Posts
I felt bad for Katu and I feel even worse for Orb. | ||
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opaque
Russian Federation89 Posts
Racism is only still so relevant in America because its such a taboo, highly discussed subject. | ||
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1Eris1
United States5797 Posts
On March 09 2012 13:04 mcleod wrote: this all seems a bit harsh on Orb i think hes a great caster, yes he said some awful things no need to fuck his shit up tho grow up EG He also lied to them. No matter what your job is, if you lie to your boss chances are your ass is gonna get canned. The thread would have been 15 pages max if Orb had just come out and apologized, but he didn't, and choose to make excuses/try to cover it up. | ||
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whiterabbit
2675 Posts
On March 09 2012 12:42 ottersareneat wrote: ... So will you make one of these topics for IdrA soon enough? I don't think so. He brings money for SC2 community, he is just too important and let's be totally okey with him using all kind of homophobic slurs on his stream while having EG tag. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44374 Posts
Major props to you, Alex  I'm sure Orb will bounce back | ||
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kellymilkies
Singapore1393 Posts
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
1) does EG plan to bring a different caster into the EG house to do what they planned to ahve Orb do? 2) does EG plan to never affiliate with Orb again or would perhaps for the next EG MCSL or other special event Orb be considered to be cast? 3) do you feel like Orb should be completely shunned by the community forever or do you think what EG has done to him enough of a punishment? 4) if Orb had been more careful in his choice of insult would he still ahve been removed from EG? (like do you completely shun such behaviour from all EG affiliated people or is it jsut he crossed the line using that specific language) | ||
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unit
United States2621 Posts
has idra seriously never made any similar comments over the years? | ||
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yawnoC
United States3704 Posts
On March 09 2012 12:57 Sprungjeezy wrote: After reading that statement ... you came to that conclusion. I... what is wrong with you internet -.-;Hell, it's about time. Not too shocked people talked to your sponsors after this - After reading this it seemed like you might try (or at least were wishing) to make it seem like baseless complaints and not really investigate it, but after you were contacted by sponsors you understood how real the shit just got. Regardless, I'm glad the way you handled it (even if I personally view it as your hand was forced to deal with it). It's really too bad the way Orb tried to handle this not to mention childish. | ||
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OnFiRe888
United States629 Posts
I know racism should take no part in the community, however, I still think not enough time has been passed to see whether or not orb was actually innocent. (we don't know for sure that he was at fault, at least for one of them) Albeit, I do agree with the fact that orb needed to clean up his act, he's still one of the best casters that we have ever had in SC2. I think the thing that bothers me the most is showing that reddit witch-hunts are really starting to work. I feel like after the last two weeks (with the whole Katu debacle and now this). Reddit is becoming far too powerful, everybody makes mistakes, and you can always bet your bottom dollar that reddit will point them out. I admire how Mr. Garfield gave everybody in reddit the benefit of the doubt in saying that they are morally inclined to punish orb for his racism, however, I do not think that is the case. As he said, our community really needs to mature and even though orb/katu are not perfect, they really do contribute a lot to esports, which is often what many overlook when they are being called out. I feel like many of the people do not actually take offense to orb or his racist comments, but more they take offense that he made a fault and everybody jumped on him. But I digress, at least orb's dismissal will prompt him to need to be more careful in the future. | ||
NonY
8748 Posts
On March 09 2012 12:51 PowerDes wrote: What a joke. Let this be a warning guys, be on your bestest behavior when playing ladder games or the internet will destroy your reputation. People really have no idea how often opportunities are missed and doors closed without them knowing. Because not only does the internet operate in funny ways, so do people in the real world. It's always best to be your best at all times. Those of us who sometimes allow ourselves to act worse do it at our own risk. The difference in attitude here is what often sets apart people who hit a plateau in life and people who miraculously, seemingly luckily, succeed. | ||
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densha
United States797 Posts
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dizzy101
Netherlands2066 Posts
Many Europeans may not "get" this decision, because the N-word is less stigmatized there compared to the US. For instance, it occurs pretty regularly in the TeamLiquid funny pictures thread. (I just assume it's because the Euro sensitivity to that word is very different.) | ||
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TheAmazombie
United States3714 Posts
The mature thing would have been to man up, admit it, apologize or defend his position, and grow as a human, but Orb did not do that and that offends me as an intelligent human being before anything else. We are not that stupid Orb. It is just a hard a situation, but if Joe Buck had typed that to someone else, he would not be allowed to cast the World Series again. | ||
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