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Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
February 16 2012 18:34 GMT
#21
there is also a way you can backspace inject but never have queens running around.
aLt)nirvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Singapore846 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-16 18:56:56
February 16 2012 18:36 GMT
#22
mOOnGLaDe and PiG use this method of Queen larva injection and many zergs who have tried it came to regard it as the absolute best method. They wrote up a whole tutorial explaining exactly how to manage zerg mechanics / larva injection and it involves the simple setting up of a custom hotkey W for "0" to select all your hatcheries and pairing up queens with hatcheries. There is no faster way then this !

http://www.sc2sea.com/showthread.php?t=3074
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Pelirrojo
Profile Joined April 2010
United States98 Posts
February 16 2012 18:52 GMT
#23
I know there are probably already a million threads debating which method is "best", and you have to just experiment and see what feels good to you. I just want to add that I used to use the backspace method, but switched to the method I see many korean pros using and it feels much better to me. I know that just because some pros do it doesn't make it good - many ex-BW players do things sub-optimally just to avoid changing a habit that they've been ingraining for 10 years.

What I do is have all hatches on one hotkey, and then each hatch on its own hotkey. So for instance, I do units for 1-3, all hatches on 4, main hatch on 5, natural on 6, etc. To inject I go 55-click(on the queen at that hatch)-v-click(on the hatch). I feel more in control of things this way. It's not as fast as the backspace method but there is no potential to screw things up, I can have 1 queen for 2 hatches if I have a macro hatch or something, it allows me to easily jump around the map without needing camera hotkeys for each base, makes it easier to create units at a specific base or handle a rally point for a specific base (ie if there is a terran army in between my expos I want to change rally point so I don't lose reinforcements, or if I want to make drones at a certain base).

Each method had pros and cons - since you're new I'd recommend trying them all to see what feels best to you.
ODKStevez
Profile Joined February 2011
Ireland1225 Posts
February 16 2012 19:53 GMT
#24


I made a video on this a long time ago, I know the quality is messed but you can clearly see what to do.
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Liquid`Snute
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Norway839 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-18 11:59:43
February 18 2012 11:55 GMT
#25
Small text tutorial that might be useful!

If you use the backspace method:

A: Braindead method (Fastest, situational).
1. Select all queens.
2. Base Camera hotkey
3. Inject
4. Repeat 2-3
5. Press stop if you notice an error in queen movement.
6. Repeat sequence or fill in missing injects manually (very rare)

Method A works well as long as you have amounts of queens EQUAL or GREATER THAN amount of hatcheries. My impression is that this method is regarded as inferior by some people as it becomes unreasonable when you acquire hatcheries without queens or a great amount of macro hatcheries without queens. In addition, it is considered only marginally faster than other methods such as single queens or single hatcheries on hotkeys, which are far more precise.

If you are in a scenario with fewer queens than hatcheries, you can use the messy method:

B: Below 1 queen per hatch, just want some injects method (Fastest, lossy)
1. Select all queens.
2. Base Camera hotkey
3. Inject
4. Repeat 2-3
5. Always press STOP, this prevents queens from running around.
6. Repeat sequence or fill in missing injects manually (super common)

It is a messy method, but queens will not run around. It's okay as a quick fix until you get 1 queen per hatchery again. If you want to do it proper, you can use the other methods out there. They're probably better in the cases you can't use method A.


There is also a very technical method you can use in combination with A and instead of B that goes something like the following:

C: Precision method (Slower than A, more precise than B)
Bind inject to TILDE (the button left of 1 on the keyboard)

1. Center view on hatcheries and bind them to camera hotkeys (F1-F8 etc).
2. Select all your queens
3. Press F-key of hatchery you want to inject
4. Press tilde |§ (inject)
5. Inject click
6. Repeat Step 4-6, skip hatcheries without queens

Example: Select all queens - F1 - inject - Click - F2 - inject - Click - F4 - inject - click.
I don't think this method is widely used?

People have different methods and all in all its all about remembering injects and getting your own method straight. Some people like to have each hatchery on a hotkey, some like to hotkey their queens. It's all down to practice, remembering injects and executing it right!

The queens running around thing should never be a problem, if you have that issue it means your method is flawed, at the very least press stop!
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Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
February 18 2012 12:02 GMT
#26
Hmm... I bind every queen to a different hotkey and 66v77v88v99v
Tiazi
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands761 Posts
February 18 2012 12:03 GMT
#27
you didnt use the search function did you?
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Prillan
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden350 Posts
February 18 2012 12:35 GMT
#28
On February 17 2012 01:49 Finrod wrote:
Hey guys,

I just continued playing Starcraft 2 two days ago and as a zerg player I'm wondering how all the good player can switch so fast between their queens. I tried the tutorial from tl-wiki but it doesnt work. Everytime a hit spacebar it jumps to a different location. Some help would be nice! Thank you!


Backspace is the one you erase characters with.
Spacebar makes spaces.

I think you're just confused about the names of the keys
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