EPTI just continued playing Starcraft 2 two days ago and as a zerg player I'm wondering how all the good player can switch so fast between their queens. I tried the tutorial from tl-wiki but it doesnt work. Everytime a hit spacebar it jumps to a different location. Some help would be nice! Thank you!
Is there a "tutorial" for backspace switching?
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Finrod
Germany6 Posts
I just continued playing Starcraft 2 two days ago and as a zerg player I'm wondering how all the good player can switch so fast between their queens. I tried the tutorial from tl-wiki but it doesnt work. Everytime a hit spacebar it jumps to a different location. Some help would be nice! Thank you! | ||
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Lorch
Germany3689 Posts
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HaXXspetten
Sweden15718 Posts
2. Press Shift (hold it down!), then press V (just click it) 3. Spam spacebar and left mouse buttom in the middle of the screen until you've cycled through all your hatches. 4. Repeat from Step 1 when the injects are complete Edit: On February 17 2012 01:52 Lorch wrote: Backspace =/= Spacebar. Spacebar just puts you to the last action happened. You need to rebind the hotkey called something like "switch base cam" to backspace (or wherever you want to). Well, obviously you need to do this first unless you havn't, kinda goes without saying. | ||
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Eventine
United States307 Posts
Hopefully that helps. | ||
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Pughy
Wales662 Posts
The trick is too have all queens on a hotkey press backspace with shift and cycle with while injecting all the hatches, the nearest queen will inject (this is smart casting) | ||
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Hulavuta
United States1252 Posts
EDIT: The guy above me got in just a few seconds before I did T_T Are you sure it's smart casting? I've seen tons of situations where players have a ton of queens running all over the map and stuff. Either way it's best to have good creep spread and at least one queen at each hatchery. | ||
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Eventine
United States307 Posts
Snute uses this method and just injects all his hatches in like 1-2 seconds. I haven't seen his queens run around. | ||
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Lorizean
Germany1330 Posts
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ReMiiX
United States338 Posts
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Finrod
Germany6 Posts
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RaiZ
2813 Posts
On February 17 2012 02:07 Eventine wrote: It should be smart cast, there shouldn't be queens running around; Snute uses this method and just injects all his hatches in like 1-2 seconds. I haven't seen his queens run around. Wait what ? How does he do it then ? To never have his queens running around that is ? Only thing i could find is to type S or Stop after every injection cycle so that it won't move far away from their hatch, but then there's also a chance that not a single hatch may be injected ? (happened to me countless time, switched back to my old method) | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
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Lorizean
Germany1330 Posts
On February 17 2012 03:13 RaiZ wrote: Wait what ? How does he do it then ? To never have his queens running around that is ? Only thing i could find is to type S or Stop after every injection cycle so that it won't move far away from their hatch, but then there's also a chance that not a single hatch may be injected ? (happened to me countless time, switched back to my old method) Just make sure to have a sufficient energy queen at every hatch... Or skip the hatches you don't have a queen at (takes longer then obviously as you have to take a sec to check) | ||
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rawb
United States252 Posts
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MinKi
Korea (South)151 Posts
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Mrvoodoochild1
United States1439 Posts
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`Zapdos
United States935 Posts
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Avalain
Canada308 Posts
On February 17 2012 03:16 Torte de Lini wrote: Use tilds instead of backspace, so much better. I recommend this too. I use the tilde (button to the left of your '1' key) instead of the spacebar because then you can still use your spacebar for going to the "location of last message" or whatever it is. Basically you can keep the regular spacebar functionality. And yes, the one thing to watch out for when doing this is that you have a queen with enough energy by the hatchery that you're clicking on. This is typically a problem when you expand and then forget about it, or if your queen was just killed, etc. If you do this it will send the closest queen to that hatch which isn't necessarily what you want. Remember, "closest" queen is a "as the crow flies" kind of close. It doesn't take pathing into account. So, for example, if you are on Shakuras Plateau and you build your third at the other spawn locations natural (aka, that place you almost always put your third as a Zerg) then it will send the queen from your natural. If you build your third at the expansion that is beside the xel'naga tower then the queen from your MAIN will technically be closer and it will move that one instead. It's good to know this since accidentally moving your queens can lead to major confusion - particularly when multitasking. | ||
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MisterTea
United Kingdom1047 Posts
select queens hold shift+v and spam capslock/left click queens do not move if they are not at a hatchery that has already been injected etc | ||
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VaLix
United States5 Posts
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Golgotha
Korea (South)8418 Posts
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aLt)nirvana
Singapore846 Posts
http://www.sc2sea.com/showthread.php?t=3074 | ||
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Pelirrojo
United States98 Posts
What I do is have all hatches on one hotkey, and then each hatch on its own hotkey. So for instance, I do units for 1-3, all hatches on 4, main hatch on 5, natural on 6, etc. To inject I go 55-click(on the queen at that hatch)-v-click(on the hatch). I feel more in control of things this way. It's not as fast as the backspace method but there is no potential to screw things up, I can have 1 queen for 2 hatches if I have a macro hatch or something, it allows me to easily jump around the map without needing camera hotkeys for each base, makes it easier to create units at a specific base or handle a rally point for a specific base (ie if there is a terran army in between my expos I want to change rally point so I don't lose reinforcements, or if I want to make drones at a certain base). Each method had pros and cons - since you're new I'd recommend trying them all to see what feels best to you. | ||
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ODKStevez
Ireland1225 Posts
I made a video on this a long time ago, I know the quality is messed but you can clearly see what to do. | ||
Liquid`Snute
Norway839 Posts
If you use the backspace method: A: Braindead method (Fastest, situational). 1. Select all queens. 2. Base Camera hotkey 3. Inject 4. Repeat 2-3 5. Press stop if you notice an error in queen movement. 6. Repeat sequence or fill in missing injects manually (very rare) Method A works well as long as you have amounts of queens EQUAL or GREATER THAN amount of hatcheries. My impression is that this method is regarded as inferior by some people as it becomes unreasonable when you acquire hatcheries without queens or a great amount of macro hatcheries without queens. In addition, it is considered only marginally faster than other methods such as single queens or single hatcheries on hotkeys, which are far more precise. If you are in a scenario with fewer queens than hatcheries, you can use the messy method: B: Below 1 queen per hatch, just want some injects method (Fastest, lossy) 1. Select all queens. 2. Base Camera hotkey 3. Inject 4. Repeat 2-3 5. Always press STOP, this prevents queens from running around. 6. Repeat sequence or fill in missing injects manually (super common) It is a messy method, but queens will not run around. It's okay as a quick fix until you get 1 queen per hatchery again. If you want to do it proper, you can use the other methods out there. They're probably better in the cases you can't use method A. There is also a very technical method you can use in combination with A and instead of B that goes something like the following: C: Precision method (Slower than A, more precise than B) Bind inject to TILDE (the button left of 1 on the keyboard) 1. Center view on hatcheries and bind them to camera hotkeys (F1-F8 etc). 2. Select all your queens 3. Press F-key of hatchery you want to inject 4. Press tilde |§ (inject) 5. Inject click 6. Repeat Step 4-6, skip hatcheries without queens Example: Select all queens - F1 - inject - Click - F2 - inject - Click - F4 - inject - click. I don't think this method is widely used? People have different methods and all in all its all about remembering injects and getting your own method straight. Some people like to have each hatchery on a hotkey, some like to hotkey their queens. It's all down to practice, remembering injects and executing it right! The queens running around thing should never be a problem, if you have that issue it means your method is flawed, at the very least press stop!  | ||
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Sinensis
United States2513 Posts
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Tiazi
Netherlands761 Posts
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Prillan
Sweden350 Posts
On February 17 2012 01:49 Finrod wrote: Hey guys, I just continued playing Starcraft 2 two days ago and as a zerg player I'm wondering how all the good player can switch so fast between their queens. I tried the tutorial from tl-wiki but it doesnt work. Everytime a hit spacebar it jumps to a different location. Some help would be nice! Thank you! Backspace is the one you erase characters with. Spacebar makes spaces. I think you're just confused about the names of the keys | ||
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