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NeoGeoOdin
Colombia140 Posts
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Chewbacca.
United States3634 Posts
I'm fine with people not paying for all of those options...except the one in 2nd place. I can't believe people think they are entilted to 20hrs of free entertainment from MLG when almost no other source of entertainment is free. | ||
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neurosx
Luxembourg1096 Posts
On February 14 2012 08:52 Prochainezo wrote: This thread is why starcarft WILL fail... please read on if you want to support esports... Are these people really so dumb to not support this for a measly $20????? Everyone knows starcraft is losing money atm. It is down to MLG and other leagues to find a way to monetize it otherwise the scene will quite simply collapse. Nobody is making money atm, and nobody can get big sponsors because there are no hard figures behind these kind of events. (Money talks, free stream viewers doesn't) Now MLG take the initiative to try to prove esports can work as a viable bussiness, and all these turds on here say they wont pay.... Well enjoy killing your own hobby idiots. I can't beleive how moderate Sundance is being about this. He has put on so many high quality events, that none of you assholes have ever paid for, and this is the thanks he gets for trying to get $20 for 5 STREAMS and HOURS of content. He even suggests pulling together with friends, or going to barcrafts. Jesus christ, starcraft doesn't deserve to succeed if its fanbase are so short minded as to not support this. Seriously this is so sad it is beyond words. I bet you guys wouldnt blink an eyelid at spening $20 for a new mouse/keyboard/game or even freaking pizza, now when the time coomes to truly support esports, you all can't be asked to spend your doritoes money on a company that has given you so much already for free. Think of any other sport, people pay the entry fee, they buy the merch, they spend money on food/drinks at the event.... and thats how the sport survives as a bussiness. You guys are so shortsighted its unbeleivable. /rant over TLDR; If you can't find $20 to support this, then dont complain when starcraft collapses in the west. It'll be on your head. If this fails, then esports fails. MLG can't continue making money like they have before, and If a company like MLG cant make money, then who the hell can? 20$ is NOT NOTHING for everyone, you talk like everyone can throw 20$ in pizzas, keyboards, whatever. Hey surprise it's not actually the case. I eat for a week for 20$ can you get that ? You're the one being a shortsighted jerk, If you want to throw 20$ to make you think " you're making e-sports grow " go ahead, but this is actually killing it. | ||
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VirgilSC2
United States6151 Posts
On February 14 2012 08:33 MrCon wrote: 20$ would be perfect but the results are leaked already (Parting will win) so not worth it. :p User was temp banned for this post. Why the hell was he banned for this? How could the results of a live event in the future ACTUALLY be leaked? Seriously? | ||
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TBone-
United States2309 Posts
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SC2NeCro
Canada507 Posts
On February 14 2012 08:56 bobzx wrote: Yea Leenock, Naniwa, DonRaeGu, MVP, HUK, MC, Haypro, Idra, Violet, Ret, Thorzain, Pomi, Socke, Sjow, Grubby, Merz, Nestea, Parting, Losira, MKP, OZ, STC, Ganzi, San, Drewbie, Ddoro, Sheth, Sase, Axslav, Artist, Minigun, DDE are definately not top notch valid argument here. Over half those names aren't top notch. | ||
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Silidons
United States2813 Posts
On February 14 2012 08:59 Smackzilla wrote: Alot of movies are still crap. An MLG tournament is easily better than most movies. Heck, its better than most movies I've payed for. this is all subjective | ||
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Soleron
United Kingdom1324 Posts
On February 14 2012 08:54 carloselcoco wrote: VOD's will be free one week after though => Not visit TL for a week to not be spoiled => Watch VODs as live except skipping the downtime | ||
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TyrantPotato
Australia1541 Posts
bad business practice, i won't be watching. Normally they'd get like $5 from me watching all the ads on the free stream. now they wont get a cent. | ||
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RogerChillingworth
2872 Posts
Vieweres have to feel like they're getting a steal. Tons of free content and new, engaging stuff on stream to attract more viewers -->more/more prominent sponshorships. And on the weekend of Assembly of all things. Holy smokes. | ||
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Pokemonxoxo
United States217 Posts
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turamn
United States1374 Posts
 its a business, they can't just give shit out for 20 bucks. its unrealistic to expect this. honestly, if you're in a position in your life where you can't spend 20 dollars on entertainment you like -- i don't know what else to tell you. i really really really cannot understand why people on this forum are so reluctant to pay for streams, like they are entitled to it | ||
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how2TL
1197 Posts
On February 14 2012 09:00 dsousa wrote: I love from how MLG went from not even enough seats for SC2, to focusing more on SC2, to being exclusive for SC2 to being PPV for SC2. Ride that train...... I never liked Sundance, he was just building goodwill so he could cash in. Don't forget, the winners of all last years MLG's only got 5k (until the Championship) SC2 doesn't need this kind of opportunism. Yeah it's terrible how SC2 has grown into something of a legitimate business. Too bad it couldn't stay unknown and neglected forever. | ||
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Whatson
United States5356 Posts
On February 14 2012 08:59 Trowa127 wrote: I'm at university and I have a job. I'm happy to pay for this. Please don't pull that bullshit card. I understand people have different perceptions of the value of money, but no one living in the developed World can honestly say $20 for a three day tournament is a bank breaker. That is literally a few pints in a pub. "A few pints in a pub." Who's rich and spoiled now? These Americans and their willingness to blow money everywhere...I feel super Korean now. | ||
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MrDudeMan
Canada973 Posts
On February 14 2012 08:59 magnaflow wrote: God Just make it $59.99-$69.99 a year and include all SC2 events. GIve me access to SC2 only. I don't care about anything else. I would honestly much rather see this. If MLG is making the community put their money where their mouths are then they should do the same. I don't particularly care for CoD, I might check out halo depending on halo 4, but there should be no reason I have to pay for CoD/Halo streams that I don't want to see. | ||
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theBizness
United States696 Posts
On February 14 2012 09:02 RogerChillingworth wrote: MLG's business model is pretty awful. They should consider parnering with EG for an ambiguously bad duo. Vieweres have to feel like they're getting a steal. Tons of free content and new, engaging stuff on stream to attract more viewers -->more/more prominent sponshorships. And on the weekend of Assembly of all things. Holy smokes. I think the problem is that ad revenue alone is not enough to make MLG sustainable. | ||
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Clank
United States548 Posts
On February 14 2012 08:57 RmoteCntrld wrote: MLG trying to justify their greed. Sad really real people in the Starcraft community to make you bigger than ever before then reach into their pockets great job. LOL, since when is trying to make a profit greed? Sundance tweeted that MLG has put more money into this than they have received, so what is wrong with trying to move forward to a more stable business model and actually make some money? | ||
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Chanted
Norway1001 Posts
MLG`s production have been good so far concerning the games, allthought they have alot of downtime so I want to see what they can provide in between the games before I pay up. Best of luck anyways, hopefully many people will buy, or go to barcrafts! | ||
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Whatson
United States5356 Posts
On February 14 2012 09:01 VirgilSC2 wrote: Why the hell was he banned for this? How could the results of a live event in the future ACTUALLY be leaked? Seriously? The mods don't understand sarcasm. I've had the same experience lol. | ||
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nam nam
Sweden4672 Posts
On February 14 2012 08:57 Klonere wrote: I would almost guarantee Assembly do not make money on the tourney, its more a showcase for ASUS much like IEM is a showcase for Intel. MLG are trying for something more sustainable (although I saw 2GD saying Dreamhack was sustainable with no PPV at all, interested to see how that is possible) Probably because Dreamhack is not an esports event. It a big lan event with many different elements where esports is one only part of it as opposed to MLG and IEM that is all about esports. You can't compare them directly like that. | ||
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