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krisss
Luxembourg305 Posts
On February 14 2012 19:57 zaii wrote: Chances are they won't have too, because Riot keeps putting up the prize money (5 million). lol, the best long-term business plan ever. drop sc2 and take LoL, LOL. as soon as LoL auits its support, which will be as soon as LoL is going into a slump, its gg MLG. nice strategy | ||
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acrimoneyius
United States983 Posts
If my internet wasn't so shit, I could justify paying for HD streams. | ||
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Belial88
United States5217 Posts
$20 really is not that much money, it's barely a tank of gas or dinner for a couple. | ||
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Serelitz
Netherlands2895 Posts
On February 14 2012 20:00 clementdudu wrote: if you want to support esports,do not buy it. edit:a tournament supporting esport is making money through adds on free streams,lots of viewers attracting sponsors,bringing money into the scene,not the opposite. i sincerely hope assembly will rape mlgs numbers And how do you know that that is enough money wise? You know what the cost is of flying out 32 top players in addition to venue, production (satellite trucks last year for example) and prize pool? Ads don't cover that, and the ROI for sponsors simply isn't enough. MLG as it was in 2011 simply isn't sustainable costwise. | ||
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Typhus
Norway122 Posts
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17692 Posts
"Will Sundance become the VInce Mcmahon of eSports?" With MLG's last few moves it appears that question will be answered in 2012! | ||
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Duravi
United States1205 Posts
On February 14 2012 20:08 Belial88 wrote: MLG always has amazing tournaments, and the price for content is competitive to GSL. $20 really is not that much money, it's barely a tank of gas or dinner for a couple. What? GSL gives you roughly 3 months of content for less ($14.99 for Season Light Ticket). With better production, better players, and better casters. There is no comparison. | ||
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mememolly
4765 Posts
On February 14 2012 20:00 kurrysauce wrote: Personally I feel GSL is a tad bit stale and boring although it provides high level games . MLG really gives me those chills that I get when I hear the crowd screaming at the top of their lungs or when there are rivalries going on carried on from the previous MLG. I'm sorry but Assembly and DH doesn't provide that kind of excitement value for me , it feels like the tournament is just a bunch of pro-gamers thrown inside and asked to play each other till the end. / off topic no live crowd at winter MLG? | ||
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Dalavita
Sweden1113 Posts
I think I'm going to mail them and complain, if this isn't a scam I don't know what is. I'm ok with PPV at lower sums, like $5-$10 and it's probably a good idea longterm, but I'm disappointed in MLG for shafting gold members like this. Not sure if I'll keep putting any money back into them from now on unless something gets changed for the better. | ||
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zul
Germany5427 Posts
On February 14 2012 20:00 kurrysauce wrote: ... Personally I feel GSL is a tad bit stale and boring although it provides high level games . MLG really gives me those chills that I get when I hear the crowd screaming at the top of their lungs or when there are rivalries going on carried on from the previous MLG. I'm sorry but Assembly and DH doesn't provide that kind of excitement value for me , it feels like the tournament is just a bunch of pro-gamers thrown inside and asked to play each other till the end. / off topic So about the PPV , I feel that the pricing is too damn high!. $20 for a weekend of content? Furthermore , I was looking through the entire announcement , there wasn't any mention of who is going to cast the games. From what I get , there will be a Main stream and a couple of "beta" streams , that's it. I wouldn't want to pay $20 and find out JP and Husky is casting. I feel day9 is a "must" for all MLGs , something felt amiss during the last MLG when day9 wasn't there. Well, the Winter Arena is played without audience, so I hope you don`t expect any cheering/screaming for your 20$. | ||
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zaii
Guam2611 Posts
On February 14 2012 20:00 clementdudu wrote: if you want to support esports,do not buy it. edit:a tournament supporting esport is making money through adds on free streams,lots of viewers attracting sponsors,bringing money into the scene,not the opposite. i sincerely hope assembly will rape mlgs numbers Hopefully they do and force MLG to drop SC2 from their circuit. There are other scenes that rely on them and need the prizemoney. SC2/eSports is over-saturated and doesn't need them. | ||
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Akta
447 Posts
On February 14 2012 20:08 Belial88 wrote: Wow $20, 150-180 somewhere for tank of gas me.MLG always has amazing tournaments, and the price for content is competitive to GSL. $20 really is not that much money, it's barely a tank of gas or dinner for a couple. | ||
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Delicious Insanity
Belgium841 Posts
I understand that people who bought the GOLD package feel screwed, but some people need to think before they yell. is the 20$ dollars only for those 3 days? If so.....HELL NO. Really? That's $6,66 a day. I am willing to bet all my money people have gone to the movies for more and only got 2,5h of entertainment out of it. Am I missing something here? | ||
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zaii
Guam2611 Posts
On February 14 2012 20:07 krisss wrote: lol, the best long-term business plan ever. drop sc2 and take LoL, LOL. as soon as LoL auits its support, which will be as soon as LoL is going into a slump, its gg MLG. nice strategy The thing is LoL keeps growing ,because it's free. Can't really say the same for SC2. ( There was a thread that saidSC2 went from 2 million players playing to 700k) | ||
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zasda
381 Posts
On February 14 2012 20:08 Belial88 wrote: MLG always has amazing tournaments, and the price for content is competitive to GSL. $20 really is not that much money, it's barely a tank of gas or dinner for a couple. why are you comparing it to random things. compare to other sc2 stuff that require payment. Nowhere near gsl lol u see hwo many content u get for 15$??? or maybe u racist .. | ||
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Bibbit
Canada5377 Posts
On February 14 2012 20:13 Akta wrote: Wow $20, 150-180 somewhere for tank of gas me. Heh ye I was thinking that, and your date probably hates you if your meal (for both of you) cost $20. Is this Burger King ? | ||
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Reasonable
Ukraine1432 Posts
I'm not exactly the target audience for such things though. Some rich young men might pay. I get the same quality of games when I play on the ladder, well, slightly worse, but only slightly. It is not quite as good as the GSL, which is, in fact, free to watch. | ||
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Elp
Netherlands86 Posts
a required step in furthering the growth and success of eSports. Charging $20 for a weekend of SC2 has nothing to do with growing e-sports, it just a pilot to test a new way of creating income for MLG. MLG is a business and it exists to make money. There's nothing wrong with making money, but don't play the 'Let's grow e-sports together" card when the obvious goal of this PPV model is to grow MLG revenue. This is probably the reason why the MLG Gold Members don't get access to this new content. The people that already have a subscription are the same group of people that are most likely to purchase a $20 dollar ticket. Getting a PPV stream does not attract new customers, it's just a way of getting more money from your current customers. | ||
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zaii
Guam2611 Posts
On February 14 2012 20:11 zul wrote: Well, the Winter Arena is played without audience, so I hope you don`t expect any cheering/screaming for your 20$. The price is too damn high, especially with no audience. | ||
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feanor1
United States1899 Posts
On February 14 2012 20:04 ZerguufOu wrote: of course they are making a profit. if they didnt they would go out of business. You really just don't understand how start ups work. Don't spew misinformation. MLG has been using investor capital since its inception. Investors invest now in the hopes that MLG becomes profitable in the future. MLG has not historically been a profitable company. Investors feel that it will develop into a profitable company, but it hasn't yet. | ||
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