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Shockk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany2269 Posts
February 14 2012 19:06 GMT
#1121
On February 15 2012 00:07 Belial88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 15:53 jackdaniels wrote:
Blizzard before: Made games to make the best game they can, rewarded with tons of cash.
Blizzard now: Makes games to make money; Less and less people buying their crap.


I cannot believe anyone can bash on blizzard games.


Should Blizzard be immune to criticism in your opinion, just because they're the best at what they're doing? Should we be content with missing features just because their competitors set the standard so low? No. If you're happy with getting less than you could, fine. We're not. Simple as that.
Brainling
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States660 Posts
February 14 2012 19:16 GMT
#1122
I'll never understand the "I feel so alone when I login in to B.net!" argument. With my friends list, and several private channels that I am in, I never feel alone when I login, I can always find a practice game, or just a shits-and-giggles 4v4. What exactly do you want Blizzard to do? Put EHarmony in b.net so you can match up with new friends using 26 points of compatibility?

If you feel alone when you login, that absolutely sounds like a personal problem.

Some of the other complaints in this thread have merit, but I think in true internet fashion are completely blown out of proportion. The idea that the UI somehow hinders you form playing the game is just silly. How hard is to click Multiplayer -> Find Game? Is Find Game not big and orange enough? Maybe Blizzard needs to make it blink?

Or, A Blizzard employee should personally message you when you login, and point you to the Find Game button. Two birds with one stone: The UI won't hinder you from playing, and you won't feel alone.
"The welfare of each of us is dependent fundamentally upon the welfare of all of us." - Theodore Roosevelt
Tarotis
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Germany1931 Posts
February 14 2012 19:17 GMT
#1123
On February 15 2012 04:16 Brainling wrote:
I'll never understand the "I feel so alone when I login in to B.net!" argument. With my friends list, and several private channels that I am in, I never feel alone when I login, I can always find a practice game, or just a shits-and-giggles 4v4. What exactly do you want Blizzard to do? Put EHarmony in b.net so you can match up with new friends using 26 points of compatibility?

If you feel alone when you login, that absolutely sounds like a personal problem.

Some of the other complaints in this thread have merit, but I think in true internet fashion are completely blown out of proportion. The idea that the UI somehow hinders you form playing the game is just silly. How hard is to click Multiplayer -> Find Game? Is Find Game not big and orange enough? Maybe Blizzard needs to make it blink?

Or, A Blizzard employee should personally message you when you login, and point you to the Find Game button. Two birds with one stone: The UI won't hinder you from playing, and you won't feel alone.

Did you ever play WarCraft 3 online?
godly-cheese
Profile Joined November 2011
United States67 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-14 20:09:15
February 14 2012 20:01 GMT
#1124
On February 15 2012 04:16 Brainling wrote:
I'll never understand the "I feel so alone when I login in to B.net!" argument. With my friends list, and several private channels that I am in, I never feel alone when I login, I can always find a practice game, or just a shits-and-giggles 4v4. What exactly do you want Blizzard to do? Put EHarmony in b.net so you can match up with new friends using 26 points of compatibility?

If you feel alone when you login, that absolutely sounds like a personal problem.

Some of the other complaints in this thread have merit, but I think in true internet fashion are completely blown out of proportion. The idea that the UI somehow hinders you form playing the game is just silly. How hard is to click Multiplayer -> Find Game? Is Find Game not big and orange enough? Maybe Blizzard needs to make it blink?

Or, A Blizzard employee should personally message you when you login, and point you to the Find Game button. Two birds with one stone: The UI won't hinder you from playing, and you won't feel alone.


I don't think I've met one single person on StarCraft 2 and actually stuck with them and played with them for years and years. Compared to WarCraft 3 and even Brood War, this is beyond silly. StarCraft 2 that is...

Hell, I've met some really cool people on Diablo 2 and just stuck with them forever. I never even met them in person. StarCraft 2 is just making it hard to communicate and meet with people.

Public channels also made this easy to do where you could just talk about whatever you wanted and setup games easier. Last time I checked. There was about 350 people using the chat channels in StarCraft 2.

And it's funny that you say it's a personal problem but how many people that I know in real life, actually play StarCraft 2? Hmm, let's see. Maybe one? But he's bronze and I try to coach him and it's hard but he'll make it. But I can't go onto StarCraft 2 and be like "hey, how is everyone?" Instead everyone is just jerking off in the crappy custom games somewhere out of boredum because they can't find a game to play with anyone.

Just like yesterday I was playing on PeepMode Metalopolis but I wanted to play on Peepmode Cloud Kingdom instead, but there was only one other person in there. Just because the game wasn't popular. Bullshit? Then I have to join up on PeepMode Metalopolis and contribute to the horrible map, and when I do that. I just making the game more popular. Which makes it suck even more.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Parnass
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany145 Posts
February 14 2012 21:06 GMT
#1125
I seriously wish that I had a US account just so I could keep bumping the US battle.net thread. This is so frustrating that there was absolutely no official feedback yet...
Thylacine
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden882 Posts
February 14 2012 21:21 GMT
#1126
On February 15 2012 04:16 Brainling wrote:
I'll never understand the "I feel so alone when I login in to B.net!" argument. With my friends list, and several private channels that I am in, I never feel alone when I login, I can always find a practice game, or just a shits-and-giggles 4v4. What exactly do you want Blizzard to do? Put EHarmony in b.net so you can match up with new friends using 26 points of compatibility?

If you feel alone when you login, that absolutely sounds like a personal problem.

Some of the other complaints in this thread have merit, but I think in true internet fashion are completely blown out of proportion. The idea that the UI somehow hinders you form playing the game is just silly. How hard is to click Multiplayer -> Find Game? Is Find Game not big and orange enough? Maybe Blizzard needs to make it blink?

Or, A Blizzard employee should personally message you when you login, and point you to the Find Game button. Two birds with one stone: The UI won't hinder you from playing, and you won't feel alone.



Want me to explain why 90% of ppl feel lonely, even tho I shouldnt need to explain this easy thing?
There is no official blizzard channel that isnt dead so you have to search one up, privately, and the channels got no moderators so there can be tons of trolls there or its just a dead chat.

There is no clan support and you cant have cool clan channels like you had in wc3 which made the game way more socializful.
There is no /w function which makes you even more lonely because you have to go to someones score screen of a game they played to talk to them or add them, and many times you cant add someone.

And what people mean is that Sc2 is LONELIER THEN WC3. Which never shouldve happened. BN.et 2.0 (0.2) shouldve IMPROVED the socializing part. alot. They owe us this and if you cant see that then im sorry I dislike you hell of a lot.

Thanks for bumping this thread regardless and I hope I explained something...
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acrimoneyius
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States983 Posts
February 14 2012 21:38 GMT
#1127
On February 15 2012 04:16 Brainling wrote:
I'll never understand the "I feel so alone when I login in to B.net!" argument. With my friends list, and several private channels that I am in, I never feel alone when I login, I can always find a practice game, or just a shits-and-giggles 4v4. What exactly do you want Blizzard to do? Put EHarmony in b.net so you can match up with new friends using 26 points of compatibility?

If you feel alone when you login, that absolutely sounds like a personal problem.

Some of the other complaints in this thread have merit, but I think in true internet fashion are completely blown out of proportion. The idea that the UI somehow hinders you form playing the game is just silly. How hard is to click Multiplayer -> Find Game? Is Find Game not big and orange enough? Maybe Blizzard needs to make it blink?

Or, A Blizzard employee should personally message you when you login, and point you to the Find Game button. Two birds with one stone: The UI won't hinder you from playing, and you won't feel alone.


Maybe you missed the part of the thread where it explains the loneliness is due to the custom game system missing so many intuitive features. What you're describing is ladder, which many people have said is the only redeeming feature of b.net 2.0.

Please read before posting ignorance.
Disconnect
Profile Joined September 2010
United States84 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-14 21:45:29
February 14 2012 21:39 GMT
#1128
On February 15 2012 04:06 Shockk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2012 00:07 Belial88 wrote:
On February 14 2012 15:53 jackdaniels wrote:
Blizzard before: Made games to make the best game they can, rewarded with tons of cash.
Blizzard now: Makes games to make money; Less and less people buying their crap.


I cannot believe anyone can bash on blizzard games.


Should Blizzard be immune to criticism in your opinion, just because they're the best at what they're doing? Should we be content with missing features just because their competitors set the standard so low? No. If you're happy with getting less than you could, fine. We're not. Simple as that.



Who exactly is setting the bar lower than Blizzard when it comes to the features surrounding the game? It's so low you have to be a limbo champion to get underneath the thing.

LoL, HON, DOTA2 are all doing it way better. Even the Tribes Ascend beta which isn't even close to feature complete lets you play on any server you want.

This it takes time crap doesn't fly either. HiRez Studios did a complete overhaul of the out of game UI and features as well as completely redid the class system in the game within a couple months after receiving feedback from testers. Blizzard can't even give us a lobby list for customs in two years.


I honestly feel like Blizzard wanted us to buy the game, play for a couple weeks, and get the hell off their servers.

Ryan307 :)
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States1289 Posts
February 15 2012 05:21 GMT
#1129
Has there been any kind of response from blizzard yet?
Dont let the action of factual things fracture your casual swing
BamBam
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
745 Posts
February 15 2012 05:34 GMT
#1130
On February 15 2012 14:21 Ryan307 wrote:
Has there been any kind of response from blizzard yet?


To any feature requested?

"This is a functionality we're interested in providing our players at some point in the future."
"two is way better than twice as one" - artosis
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
February 15 2012 05:39 GMT
#1131
DotA 2 just confirmed LAN mode.... uh oh...
Igaryu85
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany195 Posts
February 15 2012 05:44 GMT
#1132
Wow nice compilation of stuff that still needs changing and suggestion how to do it ;-). Thumbs up!
wunsun
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada622 Posts
February 15 2012 05:45 GMT
#1133
On February 15 2012 14:39 Sinensis wrote:
DotA 2 just confirmed LAN mode.... uh oh...


I don't see that as a huge problem. I don't want or really need LAN myself. What SC2 needs to be an actual esport is to have tournament LAN, at least at the big tournaments. To me, that is what is really needed.
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-15 05:55:26
February 15 2012 05:48 GMT
#1134
On February 15 2012 14:45 wunsun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2012 14:39 Sinensis wrote:
DotA 2 just confirmed LAN mode.... uh oh...


I don't see that as a huge problem. I don't want or really need LAN myself. What SC2 needs to be an actual esport is to have tournament LAN, at least at the big tournaments. To me, that is what is really needed.


Yeah but you see... we're not going to get it ever even for tournaments, and DotA 2 is...

And then suddenly DotA 2 has LAN latency for EVERYONE if they so choose, not just professionals or tournament organizers...

My point is bnet looks like a steaming pile of feces compared to DotA 2's client.
wunsun
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada622 Posts
February 15 2012 05:55 GMT
#1135
On February 15 2012 14:48 Sinensis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2012 14:45 wunsun wrote:
On February 15 2012 14:39 Sinensis wrote:
DotA 2 just confirmed LAN mode.... uh oh...


I don't see that as a huge problem. I don't want or really need LAN myself. What SC2 needs to be an actual esport is to have tournament LAN, at least at the big tournaments. To me, that is what is really needed.


Yeah but you see... we're not going to get it ever even for tournaments, and DotA 2 is...


True, but it's a different game. I think there is some overlap, but not that much. Maybe the issue is competition? Dota 2, LOL and HON are all competing for the same audience, while SC2 doesn't have much compeition from any serious online RTS game. Which is unfortunate.
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-15 06:05:50
February 15 2012 06:01 GMT
#1136
On February 15 2012 14:55 wunsun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2012 14:48 Sinensis wrote:
On February 15 2012 14:45 wunsun wrote:
On February 15 2012 14:39 Sinensis wrote:
DotA 2 just confirmed LAN mode.... uh oh...


I don't see that as a huge problem. I don't want or really need LAN myself. What SC2 needs to be an actual esport is to have tournament LAN, at least at the big tournaments. To me, that is what is really needed.


Yeah but you see... we're not going to get it ever even for tournaments, and DotA 2 is...


True, but it's a different game. I think there is some overlap, but not that much. Maybe the issue is competition? Dota 2, LOL and HON are all competing for the same audience, while SC2 doesn't have much compeition from any serious online RTS game. Which is unfortunate.


What we take away from this is that what was originally a Starcraft Brood War map Aeon of Strife, which turned into a Warcraft 3 map Defence of the Ancients, which turned into it's own genre of strategic games called MOBAs, Valve's game is vastly superior to even the current model for which it is based on.

DotA 2 could have been a Sc2 related phenomenon if Blizzard was up to community standards. There's no reason they couldn't given the fact that their games established the genre. Now all they can hope for is suing Valve for being better than them at everything they do.
Gwypaas
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden41 Posts
February 15 2012 07:12 GMT
#1137
http://www.joindota.com/en/news/2526-erik-johnson-confirms-lan-mode-for-dota2

DotA 2 here I come! Lan and mod support while having an awesome online platform. Blizzard take notes please.
magnaflow
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1521 Posts
February 15 2012 07:25 GMT
#1138
On February 15 2012 16:12 Gwypaas wrote:
http://www.joindota.com/en/news/2526-erik-johnson-confirms-lan-mode-for-dota2

DotA 2 here I come! Lan and mod support while having an awesome online platform. Blizzard take notes please.




My favorite part of that artice (besides all of it) is this,

On behalf of joinDOTA and it's community I extend a thankyou to Erik Johnson and Valve for listening to the community and taking the time to share what is happening behind the scenes at Valve.
how2TL
Profile Joined August 2010
1197 Posts
February 15 2012 07:27 GMT
#1139
On February 15 2012 14:55 wunsun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2012 14:48 Sinensis wrote:
On February 15 2012 14:45 wunsun wrote:
On February 15 2012 14:39 Sinensis wrote:
DotA 2 just confirmed LAN mode.... uh oh...


I don't see that as a huge problem. I don't want or really need LAN myself. What SC2 needs to be an actual esport is to have tournament LAN, at least at the big tournaments. To me, that is what is really needed.


Yeah but you see... we're not going to get it ever even for tournaments, and DotA 2 is...


True, but it's a different game. I think there is some overlap, but not that much. Maybe the issue is competition? Dota 2, LOL and HON are all competing for the same audience, while SC2 doesn't have much compeition from any serious online RTS game. Which is unfortunate.


All those people not playing ladder anymore are playing other games now, any of the popular MOBA's, I'm guessing.

I doubt the majority of SC2 players only play RTS's. And MOBA's are an offshoot of Warcraft III anyway. The point is there's probably a lot of overlap.

Blizzard sure wants a lot of control over a game that they don't seem to want to actively support in ways that grow the community very much.
Deleted User 61629
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
1664 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-15 07:40:28
February 15 2012 07:38 GMT
#1140
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