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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12770 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-27 12:36:48
January 24 2012 23:37 GMT
#1
Prime : future GSTL Champions

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Before the last GSTL, people would have laughed after seeing that sentence.
Even now, some may still find that it's a ridiculous idea. After all, when the GSTL format was still a simple elimination bracket, Prime was the only team that didn't advance even once. Even with high caliber players such as MarineKing, a several times runner-up, Polt, a GSL champion, and HongUn, at that time code S, they had a lot of troubles even qualifying in the playoffs of the last GSTL.
In fact, they were qualified solely because oGs lost to an already eliminated, and supposedly less strong, F.United team which consists almost exclusively of warcraft 3 players, foreign or koreans, and Fenix.
Then they stepped it up, and despite the loss of one of their key players, Poltimus, they surprised everyone and qualified for the final.
And they will not stop here. They lost many of their known players, Check, HongUn, Polt, Maka, almost every « old school » open season Prime player is not part of Prime anymore. But Prime is as strong as ever, and I will explain you why they are gonna win the first, and the biggest as of yet, GSL Team League of the year.

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Prime's Secret Weapon...
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Some of you may have, as I did, put Creator on their fantasy team after seeing him play against Mvp. And, like me, you were disappointed that Prime didn't even use him. I wondered why. And when I saw them use him in the playoffs, I knew. Creator was such a powerful weapon in teamleague that they did not want to reveal him until the real deal, the playoffs. What if they showed everyone how capable he was, before it was an elimination bracket? People would know that they had to snipe him, and they would have been able to study him really well since there were a lot of matches in pool play. Therefore, Prime did not use him until the playoffs. And what a blast was that! After a respectable 2 kills against StarTale, losing to a future code A champion, Curious, Creator showed how strong his PvT was, (even before the 1,4,2 patch and the new mappool) by scoring 4 kills against TSL, the team which was 5-0 in poolplay, dismantling terrans such as Clide, aLive and Heart. Oh, I almost forgot. It was 4-1 for TSL, it was the ace match for them, and despite his young age and the pressure, Creator did not fail to deliver. Whereas a lot of protoss were gimmicky and so on, Creator was just crushing code S players with safe, solid, standart play. The Prime secret weapon was revealed, and one of the favorite teams for this GSTL season got shredded into pieces by this young boy. But now, Creator will be even more scary. Protosses at that time were still struggling, whereas now they are as strong as ever, almost every protoss in code S ended up qualifying for the ro16, and the mappool is more favored for Protoss than it was before (calm before the storm anyone?). Creator 4-killed FXO, only losing to Leenock, by beating a player of each race, in the KSL team league. Known as the player who practiced the most for GSTL in the Prime team, he is not gonna fail to deliver this season, believe me.

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The Creator Effect : "sup son?"


Prime's Ace
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Everybody knows who he is, and I'm not gonna lie, even as a MarineKing fan, he has been the most disappointing ace in the GSTL history thus far, at least, from the first GSTL to the last GSTL in pool-play. Even when he was not an ace, he just lost almost every game he played in the various GSTL. For a player of his caliber, his stats were probably the worst of any player in the GSTL, along with Polt. The reasons can be multiple, and nobody outside korea can really know why MarineKing was struggling so much in the GSTL. Maybe it's the nerves of being sent out as ace?
GerrardPrime stopped sending him as an ace, without success. However, MarineKing was kinda in a slump, being sent in code A because of his TvT, so his confidence was probably not high enough to perform well in GSTL.
He played better in the playoffs, thanks to the patch (yeah remember, the blue flame nerf, allowing bio to become a valid strat again in TvT, and the death of all these gimmicky blue flame openings in every TvT) and the fact that the whole team played better in the playoffs.
Despite all of this, I think that MarineKing will be a powerful and scary ace this season.
Let me explain why : MarineKing has not always been a « big name that fails in GSTL ». In fact, he was a « big name that kick asses in team leagues ». Yeah, team leagues, not GSTL. Long ago, he reverse all-killed oGs, MC included (soon after his GSL season 3 win), and 3-killed Slayers (who were obviously not as strong as they are now, but that's still good). This was when MarineKing was along with Mvp, at the top of the top, in december/january of 2011. As we have seen in his multiple final / series against Mvp, MarineKing's performance depends heavily of his confidence and how he sees his opponent. And right now I say it to you, MarineKing's confidence is really high for this new year, and will litteraly be off the charts if he gets out alive of his GSL group. His play has not been as good (comparetively to the other players) as it was in his ro32 group since the super tournament. He was playing smartly and patiently, and his timings were... deadly. Go watch his ro32 GSL matches if you haven't yet. It was only some TvT you say? Oh, wanna talk about MarineKing's TvP? http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/players/959_MarineKing/games/vs/P#tblt-3042-1-1-DESC That's MarineKing's Korean TLPD page with special leagues accounted. Yeah, your eyes don't lie, MarineKing is currently at 31-9 in TvP in these last six months in korea. The last bo3 he lost in TvP in korea is 7 months old. Along with Polt and Jjakji (TaeJa has a promising TvP as well but is kinda unproven in GSL), MarineKing has probably the best TvP. He is very confident in TvZ and we will see his shape in his code S group. By the way, as we have seen in the KSL : Team League and the playoffs GSTL, MarineKing is more confident as an ace when it's not a tied score, he beat Leenock and Bomber rather easily when Prime was winning by quite a margin (in the KSL & GSL respectively). And with CreatorPrime and the other Prime members, Prime winning by a good margin will happen more often, and MarineKing will be scarier and scarier in the team league as well as in the individual league.

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The MarineKing Effect


Prime's zergs :

BBoongBBoong, aka Pizza Boy or Fart Zerg, Terious, known now as Bumblebee, and AnnYeong, the guy who knocked DongRaeGu out of the WCG korea qualifiers. These three are the most renown zerg players of Prime. Everybody knows who BboongBBoong is, and aknowledge him as a good player, since he performed really well in GSTL, and made a lot of good showings in the KSL and ESV Korean Weeklies as well. But do you know who AnnYeong is? And Bumblebee? Let me show you why these two should not be underestimated, and why these three are gonna kick some asses in the GSTL.

Bumblebee (aka TeriousPrime) :

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Bumblebee (damn I'm not gonna get used to his new nickname, TeriousPrime just sound more... natural?) is a former fOu player. He was relatively unknown despite two qualifications for the GSL, in the open season 2 and the GSL January. He did not perform well, even though he beat Polt, who was as we all know, not as good back then, except against MC. But, recently, he qualified for code A. His bracket was not the hardest, I must concede, but it's still an amazing feat to qualify these days. And, he beat True one month ago. Why is this promising? Because True showed really amazing ZvZ in the KSL opening, 2-0ing Leenock, 3-0ing Line. Bumblebee is not the deadliest weapon that Prime has, but he is a strong asset that Prime can use to defeat various opponents, and his qualification in code A will give him more confidence, I'm certain.

AnnYeong :
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AnnYeong who? Some of you may say. And you would be right to ask if you only watch GSL. But for those who watch the online korean weeklies cups, you may have heard of him (!). Or if you are a DongRaeGu fan, but then you hate him, because AnnYeong is the zerg who knocked DRG out of the WCG Korea pre-qualifications. He lost to Mvp in the end (who would not anyways?) but had a good showing. Oh, and he also beat fOrGG in a korean weekly. Even if fOrGG displayed better games in the GSL than in the ESV weekly, AnnYeong is capable of beating the most hyped up players in ZvZ and ZvT. His only real weakness is ZvP, but he can score some kills against a lot of players. He qualified for code A too of course.

BboongBBoong :
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BboongBBong is the most known Prime zerg, and I must say, the strongest and scariest zerg that Prime has. Without him, Prime would have not qualified for the GSTL playoffs. He has always been used as a key player by Prime's coach, and right now he is becoming really scary. 12-0. What's that? His last 12 ZvZ. 12-0, hey everyone can have these stats against lesser good players! Well, some of these wins are against his teammate AnnYeong, and he dismantled Sirius who is a rather unknown player 4-0. CoCa, Life, NesTea. BboongBBoong 2-0ed NesTea, you may say : « online! NesTea slumping! Meaningless games! », it's still an impressive feat to beat NesTea in a ZvZ without him being possibly jetlagged and him knowing his opponents in advance. Along with TSL.Symbol and IMTrue, BboongBBoong is one of the scarier up & coming zergs in ZvZ. He used to have a very good ZvP but at that time the protoss were really struggling, and he hasn't played enough ZvP recently to judge.

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The BBoongBBoong Effect : "NesTea who? Oh, Nestea! That's good with some pizza yeah"


Which teams will most likely be the hardest to win for Prime?

This season the competition will be even fiercer than it has been in the past, the teams will be more eager to win the GSTL trophy. We will analyze every team :

Top 3 contenders for the title : (Prime not included)

MVP : the current champions, as well as the former runner-ups, beat Prime in the last GSTL. Their strongest weapon is DongRaeGu, who, if you aren't prepared, can all-kill, reverse all-kill, dismantle an entire team. But DongRaeGu did not even play against Prime. The terrans hurted the most Prime, with a Noblesse 3-kill and Keen 2 kill. Why is that? Because at that time, Prime anti-terran weapon was only Creator. As strong as he is nobody can win 100% of his matches, and as soon as he got killed, there was no real hope. But now, MarineKing is becoming scary in TvT again. After promising showings in WCG Korea, he said in an interview that he was gonna practice his TvT really hard. He did not fail to deliver as I already said, and now if he can beat aLive and Happy almost easily, I don't think that the slumping MVP terrans can beat both Creator and MKP. What about DongRaeGu? Here is the thing, DongRaeGu dismantled Prime in the past, but lost to AnnYeong and MarineKing in bo3 and bo7. He later beat MarineKing 3-1 in the King of Kongs tournament, but MarineKing played these games from Germany, on the KR server, so I don't think that they have real meaning. If MarineKing can beat DongRaeGu in code S, Prime will be able to come out ahead against MVP. If MarineKing loses, it will be very hard for Prime but MarineKing will want to redeem himself so they should be able to make it. However, during the last GSTL, Genius was not special. He was an average code S protoss. Like Clide or Zenio, you don't see him drop in code A but they don't do anything past the ro16 (Clide did once, but the majority of the year he did not). But right now, Genius is being hyped up like shit and is looking really scary. His performance will probably depend of this epic groupe D of death, because MarineKing is Prime's main protoss killer, along with Creator and BboongBBoong.

SlayerS : Prime beat them easily in the last GSTL, because of HongUn, but now it's different. It will be harder. SlayerS main force is their terran line-up, as well as Cella, Jessica and BoxeR. And here is the scary thing : if Creator loses without doing enough kills, Prime will have a really hard time because MMA will be really hard to stop, since cOre is protoss he can probably snipe him but he will be stopped after that. GanZi is one of the best TvTers, and very good vZ. SlayerS protoss and zergs are not strong enough to beat the likes of Creator, BboongBBoong and MarineKing, but it will be almost impossible for Prime if Creator doesn't get enough kills. Core, Classic or Daisy will probably be used here. It can be the easiest match for Prime, or the hardest, depending of their protoss performance.

TSL : I hesitated a lot between NSHoSeo and TSL, but I will trust TSL's experience, even if they lost quite a lot of players. TSL beat Prime easily with PuMa, but PuMa isn't on TSL anymore and Prime is stronger against terran than they were back then. Thus I will look at TSL current roster : Polt & Ultimate as terrans, Cyrano and Dream as protosses, and RevivaL, Symbol, Hyun, Ragnarok and Shine. Their scariest zerg is probably Symbol, who has monstruous stats against various opponents in korean weeklies, and just qualified for the Iron Squid, beating his teammates Polt & Shine, Shine who by the way beat BboongBBoong. They have a lot of promising zergs, but in the end, they are zergs. You don't want to send a zerg against MarineKing, if his nickname is not DongRaeGu. Prime and TSL zergs are all good at ZvZ so it can be tricky depending of the map. Polt can beat MarineKing and MarineKing can beat him. If TSL can get rid of MKP before he kills too many zergs, they may have a chance. But if Creator beat Polt in the individual league, it's definitively over for TSL. MarineKing will be Prime's best asset in this match if it happens.

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You are warned. This GSTL, will be Prime GSTL.
WriterMaru
Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
January 24 2012 23:39 GMT
#2
<3 these types of posts showing up in SC2 general! Great write-up, as a huge MKP fan I can't help but cheer for them.

Fighting!
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-25 00:08:28
January 24 2012 23:41 GMT
#3
Nice post but the headlines should be:""Why Prime will win/Prime will win GSTL XYZ" to stick with the tradition
Cackle™
RageCommodore
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany912 Posts
January 24 2012 23:41 GMT
#4
Seriously, how can you not love Prime? <3
Really hope they will make it to the finals and win to show that they are a great team.
Also, gogo Annyeong!
BW: sGs.sTaRfaLL SC2: MarojiN | fan of: Darkforce, DBS, Last, Mvp, BoguS/InnoVatioN | Executer vs Choosy on Gladiator - Never forget T-T
Protossrush
Profile Joined July 2011
United States56 Posts
January 24 2012 23:42 GMT
#5
PRIME FIGHTING! Hope MKP and the rest of them do well
Jjakji, MMA, MKP, MVP Alive, Ryung, Demuslim, Keen FIGHTING!!! Jaedong, Savi0r, Zer0, Eff0rt Fighting!!
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-24 23:43:15
January 24 2012 23:42 GMT
#6
*applause* Congrats for keeping it a lot more serious than my Why TSL Will Win GSTL

I was waiting to see who else would get the ball rolling for this. It's right around the corner and all the other teams' fans aren't coming through.

It's starting to look like I might have to write them myself.

P.S. You should really get some flashy pictures and banners for this, it's a good article.
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
January 24 2012 23:43 GMT
#7
is this going to curse the team like the post did for TSL? lets hope not ):
Darkthorn
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania912 Posts
January 24 2012 23:43 GMT
#8
Since when isn't IM a contender? even when the coach fails
ChuCky.Ca
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada2497 Posts
January 24 2012 23:43 GMT
#9
careful you might jinx there team and they will lose all there players
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TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-24 23:48:51
January 24 2012 23:47 GMT
#10
On January 25 2012 08:43 Darkthorn wrote:
Since when isn't IM a contender? even when the coach fails

The purpose of these threads isn't to analyze who will most likely win,its about building up hype around your favorite team that you write about,to get people excited about the upcoming team league.
Cackle™
McFeser
Profile Joined July 2011
United States2458 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-24 23:52:16
January 24 2012 23:48 GMT
#11
I'd make a post about oGs and how they would win the GSTL, but if I started to examine why that would happen I'm affraid the facts would dissuade me from believing.
Promethelax still hasn't changed his quote
drgonzhere
Profile Joined November 2010
United States447 Posts
January 24 2012 23:51 GMT
#12
Aside from the many typos I disagree with almost all of your points except that (Z)BBoongBBoong is a pretty good player. For a multitude of reasons I'm looking for Prime to finish near the bottom of the pack this gstl
Dictator for Life of the PuMa Fanclub/ DRG, PuMA, Sage, Puzzle, MMA Fighting!
pPingu
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland2892 Posts
January 24 2012 23:52 GMT
#13
Hope byun will be able to play

It's a shame he can't participate to GSL for the moment, he is really one of prime best players
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12770 Posts
January 24 2012 23:53 GMT
#14
On January 25 2012 08:42 VirgilSC2 wrote:
*applause* Congrats for keeping it a lot more serious than my Why TSL Will Win GSTL

I was waiting to see who else would get the ball rolling for this. It's right around the corner and all the other teams' fans aren't coming through.

It's starting to look like I might have to write them myself.

P.S. You should really get some flashy pictures and banners for this, it's a good article.

I had to post it fast because I had to shut down my computer, and I started with cool big pictures of the players but thought it would make the post too long. I'll edit it tomorrow to make it prettier if it's not too late, ipod is not good for copy/paste/editing unfortunately
WriterMaru
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
January 24 2012 23:55 GMT
#15
On January 25 2012 08:48 McFeser wrote:
I'd make a post about oGs and how they would win the GSTL, but if I started to examine why that would happen I'm affraid the facts would dissuade me from believing.


Go for it. The point of these threads seem to be more about just hyping the underdogs anyway. Not to mention ogs winning is more believable than prime or tsl taking it looking at the players on paper.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
January 25 2012 00:00 GMT
#16
On January 25 2012 08:55 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2012 08:48 McFeser wrote:
I'd make a post about oGs and how they would win the GSTL, but if I started to examine why that would happen I'm affraid the facts would dissuade me from believing.


Go for it. The point of these threads seem to be more about just hyping the underdogs anyway. Not to mention ogs winning is more believable than prime or tsl taking it looking at the players on paper.


Dude their are posts on why STX will win the Proleague in BW General, go for it
rUiNati0n
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1155 Posts
January 25 2012 00:06 GMT
#17
Doesn't have the hype of the TSL article but has really good written content . I think Prime has a good shot at winning because they are already seeded into the bracket from last season. MKP fighting!
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Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
January 25 2012 00:06 GMT
#18
Cool writeup, but I'm cheering for NsHoSeo!

However I think the title is going to be between SlayerS and MvP. :/
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
Zaxon
Profile Joined January 2011
Belgium209 Posts
January 25 2012 00:12 GMT
#19
On January 25 2012 08:42 VirgilSC2 wrote:
*applause* Congrats for keeping it a lot more serious than my Why TSL Will Win GSTL

I was waiting to see who else would get the ball rolling for this. It's right around the corner and all the other teams' fans aren't coming through.

It's starting to look like I might have to write them myself.

P.S. You should really get some flashy pictures and banners for this, it's a good article.

Virgil is right you should have some more funny pictures and banners it would make it alot more epic! but next to that really awsome you made one :D

PS: Virgil i still feel sorry for you :D also make one about SKMC just to joke around :D
MasterKang
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1373 Posts
January 25 2012 00:12 GMT
#20
I can't see Slayers not winning this season since they have such sheer numbers in talent. But ofc that's just my opinion
Players: MMA, Boxer, Ryung, Life, TaeJa, Squirtle, Brown, Dark,
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
January 25 2012 00:12 GMT
#21
On January 25 2012 08:48 McFeser wrote:
I'd make a post about oGs and how they would win the GSTL, but if I started to examine why that would happen I'm affraid the facts would dissuade me from believing.

there is for stx and ace in bw versions. these threads have nothing to do with how good a team is. but hyping your favorite team instead
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
January 25 2012 00:14 GMT
#22
On January 25 2012 09:12 Zaxon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2012 08:42 VirgilSC2 wrote:
*applause* Congrats for keeping it a lot more serious than my Why TSL Will Win GSTL

I was waiting to see who else would get the ball rolling for this. It's right around the corner and all the other teams' fans aren't coming through.

It's starting to look like I might have to write them myself.

P.S. You should really get some flashy pictures and banners for this, it's a good article.

Virgil is right you should have some more funny pictures and banners it would make it alot more epic! but next to that really awsome you made one :D

PS: Virgil i still feel sorry for you :D also make one about SKMC just to joke around :D

Sorry for me? It's pretty obvious TSL is still going to win. Just wait until they dismantle ReIGN today in IPL TAC 2.
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
January 25 2012 00:17 GMT
#23
Why did you have to write this for Prime?
Now the hype jinx is going to make MKP go to Zenex and slump right into Code B.
"How are you?" "I am fine, because it is not normal to scream in pain."
Apollonius
Profile Joined December 2010
70 Posts
January 25 2012 00:17 GMT
#24
Prime is looking more and more like KT Rolster from Brood War in terms of team structure:

1 terran ace (MarineKing, Flash)
1 solid protoss backup (Creator, Stats)
3 useful zergs (Bboongbboong/Terious/Annyeong, Hoejja/Action/CrazyHydra)

Random additional players as needed, they lack a Wooki or Mind as of now tho.

What do you guys think?
Zaxon
Profile Joined January 2011
Belgium209 Posts
January 25 2012 00:18 GMT
#25
On January 25 2012 09:14 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2012 09:12 Zaxon wrote:
On January 25 2012 08:42 VirgilSC2 wrote:
*applause* Congrats for keeping it a lot more serious than my Why TSL Will Win GSTL

I was waiting to see who else would get the ball rolling for this. It's right around the corner and all the other teams' fans aren't coming through.

It's starting to look like I might have to write them myself.

P.S. You should really get some flashy pictures and banners for this, it's a good article.

Virgil is right you should have some more funny pictures and banners it would make it alot more epic! but next to that really awsome you made one :D

PS: Virgil i still feel sorry for you :D also make one about SKMC just to joke around :D

Sorry for me? It's pretty obvious TSL is still going to win. Just wait until they dismantle ReIGN today in IPL TAC 2.

muhahaah i love your good hope :D but ill be the first one to gloat when IM all kills TSL :D
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12770 Posts
January 25 2012 00:20 GMT
#26
On January 25 2012 09:17 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
Why did you have to write this for Prime?
Now the hype jinx is going to make MKP go to Zenex and slump right into Code B.

My jinx are positive. Polt and Jjakji were undrrrated and underdogs and I said that they were gonna win and they won. It will be the same don't worry :D
WriterMaru
NuKedUFirst
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada3139 Posts
January 25 2012 00:21 GMT
#27
SlayerS and Prime are my two favorites! Hope to see Prime win it though!
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Talack
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada2742 Posts
January 25 2012 00:22 GMT
#28
AH crap now Prime is going to break up.

Wasn't ruining TSL enough for you?
drgonzhere
Profile Joined November 2010
United States447 Posts
January 25 2012 00:22 GMT
#29
On January 25 2012 09:17 Apollonius wrote:
Prime is looking more and more like KT Rolster from Brood War in terms of team structure:

1 terran ace (MarineKing, Flash)
1 solid protoss backup (Creator, Stats)
3 useful zergs (Bboongbboong/Terious/Annyeong, Hoejja/Action/CrazyHydra)

Random additional players as needed, they lack a Wooki or Mind as of now tho.

What do you guys think?


I'm pretty sure there is some kind of unholy punishment delivered by the BW gods for those who compare flash to marineking in anyway, ye be warned.
Dictator for Life of the PuMa Fanclub/ DRG, PuMA, Sage, Puzzle, MMA Fighting!
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
January 25 2012 00:25 GMT
#30
This thread should be "Prime:future second place GTSL"
Apollonius
Profile Joined December 2010
70 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-25 00:29:27
January 25 2012 00:27 GMT
#31
On January 25 2012 09:22 drgonzhere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2012 09:17 Apollonius wrote:
Prime is looking more and more like KT Rolster from Brood War in terms of team structure:

1 terran ace (MarineKing, Flash)
1 solid protoss backup (Creator, Stats)
3 useful zergs (Bboongbboong/Terious/Annyeong, Hoejja/Action/CrazyHydra)

Random additional players as needed, they lack a Wooki or Mind as of now tho.

What do you guys think?


I'm pretty sure there is some kind of unholy punishment delivered by the BW gods for those who compare flash to marineking in anyway, ye be warned.


Not comparing the two Just saying that the teams' structures are similar

But now that you mention it, both started out as relatively young people (I know for Flash, think for MKP) who cheesed in their games a lot, yet still did well o.o

Anyways nevermind
Chriscras
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2812 Posts
January 25 2012 00:28 GMT
#32
Is this generally more an appropriate post for a fan club or blog?
"En taro adun, Executor."
antilyon
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Brazil2546 Posts
January 25 2012 00:33 GMT
#33
On January 25 2012 09:22 drgonzhere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2012 09:17 Apollonius wrote:
Prime is looking more and more like KT Rolster from Brood War in terms of team structure:

1 terran ace (MarineKing, Flash)
1 solid protoss backup (Creator, Stats)
3 useful zergs (Bboongbboong/Terious/Annyeong, Hoejja/Action/CrazyHydra)

Random additional players as needed, they lack a Wooki or Mind as of now tho.

What do you guys think?


I'm pretty sure there is some kind of unholy punishment delivered by the BW gods for those who compare flash to marineking in anyway, ye be warned.

Comparing ace position races, not players.
skyflyfish
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada499 Posts
January 25 2012 00:38 GMT
#34
On January 25 2012 09:22 Talack wrote:
AH crap now Prime is going to break up.

Wasn't ruining TSL enough for you?

llol
as1
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
January 25 2012 00:46 GMT
#35
On January 25 2012 09:28 Chriscras wrote:
Is this generally more an appropriate post for a fan club or blog?

Nope, traditionally threads like this belong in the General Forum. Just look at Brood War
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mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
January 25 2012 00:47 GMT
#36
What did we learn last week people: Make a thread about who is going to win the GSTL- the team proceeds to lose its best players and everyone hates the coach.
lol jk =]
But seriously- prime has a pretty weak overall lineup- just a couple of sick good players ( not a deep roster anymore)
Long live the Boss Toss!
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
January 25 2012 01:09 GMT
#37
Prime has a reputation for innovation. Expect to see some stuff you've never seen before, probably from primezergs.

MKP, Polt, Hongun, Creator. all have greatly improved their races strategies. there will be more where this comes from..

also I'm probably one of the few if not the only people who is wearing their prime hoodie while looking at a signature of Creatorprime and framed signed photo of MKP while posting in this thread.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
January 25 2012 01:12 GMT
#38
Well, there's definitely one person who won't be winning liquibet this season.
Apollonius
Profile Joined December 2010
70 Posts
January 25 2012 01:20 GMT
#39
On January 25 2012 10:09 PrinceXizor wrote:
Prime has a reputation for innovation. Expect to see some stuff you've never seen before, probably from primezergs.

MKP, Polt, Hongun, Creator. all have greatly improved their races strategies. there will be more where this comes from..

also I'm probably one of the few if not the only people who is wearing their prime hoodie while looking at a signature of Creatorprime and framed signed photo of MKP while posting in this thread.


Polt and Hongun are no longer on the team, right?

Polt is on TSL, and Hongun is on E-Sahara iirc.
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5356 Posts
January 25 2012 01:24 GMT
#40
I'm sad to say that MKP and Creator (and Polt previously) are the only two Prime players that I've watched games of
¯\_(シ)_/¯
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
January 25 2012 01:25 GMT
#41
On January 25 2012 10:20 Apollonius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2012 10:09 PrinceXizor wrote:
Prime has a reputation for innovation. Expect to see some stuff you've never seen before, probably from primezergs.

MKP, Polt, Hongun, Creator. all have greatly improved their races strategies. there will be more where this comes from..

also I'm probably one of the few if not the only people who is wearing their prime hoodie while looking at a signature of Creatorprime and framed signed photo of MKP while posting in this thread.


Polt and Hongun are no longer on the team, right?

Polt is on TSL, and Hongun is on E-Sahara iirc.

right, but they made their innovations while part of Prime. and since then, they've actually dropped off a bit. prime's practice environment is one of the best for creativity and dedication.
A Wet Shamwow
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1590 Posts
January 25 2012 01:33 GMT
#42
Nobody expects the NsHoSeo inquisition!
“Life is a gamble, at terrible odds. If it were a bet you wouldn’t take it.”
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
January 25 2012 01:35 GMT
#43
I think Prime's 2nd place last season was deceptive. They actually finished their group stage with a negative record (2-3) and map score (13-14), only making it into the playoffs thanks to tiebreakers. Then they got lucky avoiding the tough side of the bracket, avoiding IM and MVP, while getting hot at the same time.

That being said I don't think the loss of Polt and Hongun hurts prime that much, but maybe that's just because I personally don't think of either of them as particularly fearsome players. Prime didn't use either of them throughout the entirety of last season's playoffs anyways. I think this is one of those FD/Tester type addition by subtraction moves because with Polt and Hongun out of the way it gives the youngsters room to spread their wings. Unfortunately for Prime most of their good prospects are zerg, and times are not good for zergs in Korea right now.

Now excuse me as I throw salt over my shoulder, knock on wood and offer a human sacrifice so that these team hype threads don't turn into some kind of jinx.
OKScottish
Profile Joined April 2011
United States217 Posts
January 25 2012 02:57 GMT
#44
Great write up! Prime FIGHITNG!!!!!!!
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intel21
Profile Joined March 2011
67 Posts
January 25 2012 03:01 GMT
#45
Why isn't IM listed as a top contender? I'm pretty sure they can win the whole GSTL with 2 players lol.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
January 25 2012 05:23 GMT
#46
On January 25 2012 12:01 intel21 wrote:
Why isn't IM listed as a top contender? I'm pretty sure they can win the whole GSTL with 2 players lol.

the two players they don't use?

and I definitely think FXO, Prime, and ZENEX can beat both MVP and Nestea. the former two because of powerful vs Z and vs T of some of their star players, the latter because they are unpredictable, and can beat both of them in BO1 sniping.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
January 25 2012 05:32 GMT
#47
Part of me wants to be cruel and hopes for Prime to get second again so that MKP's curse as forever Kong continues.

Then again, it's hard not to like the team after their recent show of resilience through the last GSTL and through recent financial troubles that forced them into creating the brilliant Primezzang site. And MKP is cute as hell.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
drgonzhere
Profile Joined November 2010
United States447 Posts
January 25 2012 05:35 GMT
#48
On January 25 2012 14:23 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2012 12:01 intel21 wrote:
Why isn't IM listed as a top contender? I'm pretty sure they can win the whole GSTL with 2 players lol.

the two players they don't use?

and I definitely think FXO, Prime, and ZENEX can beat both MVP and Nestea. the former two because of powerful vs Z and vs T of some of their star players, the latter because they are unpredictable, and can beat both of them in BO1 sniping.


Name one player on Zenex that can defeat MVP. Zenex is a washed up team missing its best players, and MVP is the most solid and likely the best player on the planet. I don't think anyone on Prime could either for that matter, possibly Creator but doubtful.
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Tortious_Tortoise
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States944 Posts
January 25 2012 05:45 GMT
#49
Do you remember the last guy who said a certain team was going to win a TSL? Do you want everybody on Prime.WE to leave? Do you?!

+ Show Spoiler +
Years from now the Curse of the GSTL will remain T_T
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chadissilent
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1187 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-25 05:47:12
January 25 2012 05:46 GMT
#50
Gogo ClassicPrime! He's an insanely talented Protoss player with unique builds.
RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-25 06:01:09
January 25 2012 05:59 GMT
#51
I like the content but I DID NOT like the center justification of the whole thing. >_<

On January 25 2012 14:45 mbr2321 wrote:
Do you remember the last guy who said a certain team was going to win a TSL? Do you want everybody on Prime.WE to leave? Do you?!

+ Show Spoiler +
Years from now the Curse of the GSTL will remain T_T


They are no longer with partnered with .WE and they are now sponsored by ThermalTake.
Someone call down the Thunder?
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
January 25 2012 06:16 GMT
#52
Creator and MKP might make the difference <3 hopefully they'll do well
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CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-25 06:49:13
January 25 2012 06:32 GMT
#53
On January 25 2012 10:25 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2012 10:20 Apollonius wrote:
On January 25 2012 10:09 PrinceXizor wrote:
Prime has a reputation for innovation. Expect to see some stuff you've never seen before, probably from primezergs.

MKP, Polt, Hongun, Creator. all have greatly improved their races strategies. there will be more where this comes from..

also I'm probably one of the few if not the only people who is wearing their prime hoodie while looking at a signature of Creatorprime and framed signed photo of MKP while posting in this thread.


Polt and Hongun are no longer on the team, right?

Polt is on TSL, and Hongun is on E-Sahara iirc.

right, but they made their innovations while part of Prime. and since then, they've actually dropped off a bit. prime's practice environment is one of the best for creativity and dedication.


Let's not make stuff up. Polt is twice as good now as he was back in Prime.

I think Terious will develop nicely into a reliable sniper.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Keeler
Profile Joined November 2010
United States313 Posts
January 25 2012 06:33 GMT
#54
Damn it, now Prime is going to implode.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
January 25 2012 06:42 GMT
#55
Creator is definitely one of their most dangerous weapons..great writeup and I want to see your hopes about MKP become a reality too!
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nt-rAven
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada405 Posts
January 25 2012 06:43 GMT
#56
gstl is the biggest dice roll in sc2 right now imo. if you look back at season 1 and 2 when slayers won, they were playing vs teams like ogs and im, both of which had a higher tier of talent at that time, but i think matchup, team preparation, strategies, luck and better performance on said day that alowed slayers to win. I dont think any team should be underestimated, this tournaments lets unknown players or known players shine in an atmosphere that anywhere else they would never be able to (case in point qxc all killing im). gl hf to prime and all other gstl teams!~
get owned
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
January 25 2012 06:56 GMT
#57
On January 25 2012 14:35 drgonzhere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2012 14:23 PrinceXizor wrote:
On January 25 2012 12:01 intel21 wrote:
Why isn't IM listed as a top contender? I'm pretty sure they can win the whole GSTL with 2 players lol.

the two players they don't use?

and I definitely think FXO, Prime, and ZENEX can beat both MVP and Nestea. the former two because of powerful vs Z and vs T of some of their star players, the latter because they are unpredictable, and can beat both of them in BO1 sniping.


Name one player on Zenex that can defeat MVP. Zenex is a washed up team missing its best players, and MVP is the most solid and likely the best player on the planet. I don't think anyone on Prime could either for that matter, possibly Creator but doubtful.


They're called baneling busts. MVP tends to die to them for some reason.

Remember Toodming? Yea, you probably don't because who the hell is Toodming? But he almost knocked MVP out at Blizzcon. Anything can happen in bo1. Hell, Bling and Macsed almost took him out at WCG.
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TBone-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2309 Posts
January 25 2012 06:58 GMT
#58
This was really cool! But you name it on the lines of "Why Prime will win the GSTL.
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parazice
Profile Joined March 2011
Thailand5517 Posts
January 25 2012 07:05 GMT
#59
LOL After TSL future GSTL now we have Prime

btw nice read

drgonzhere
Profile Joined November 2010
United States447 Posts
January 25 2012 07:09 GMT
#60
On January 25 2012 15:56 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2012 14:35 drgonzhere wrote:
On January 25 2012 14:23 PrinceXizor wrote:
On January 25 2012 12:01 intel21 wrote:
Why isn't IM listed as a top contender? I'm pretty sure they can win the whole GSTL with 2 players lol.

the two players they don't use?

and I definitely think FXO, Prime, and ZENEX can beat both MVP and Nestea. the former two because of powerful vs Z and vs T of some of their star players, the latter because they are unpredictable, and can beat both of them in BO1 sniping.


Name one player on Zenex that can defeat MVP. Zenex is a washed up team missing its best players, and MVP is the most solid and likely the best player on the planet. I don't think anyone on Prime could either for that matter, possibly Creator but doubtful.


They're called baneling busts. MVP tends to die to them for some reason.

Remember Toodming? Yea, you probably don't because who the hell is Toodming? But he almost knocked MVP out at Blizzcon. Anything can happen in bo1. Hell, Bling and Macsed almost took him out at WCG.


First of all my question was not answered, and has not been answered by your response with any other. And your argument that he ALMOST lost to these players at WCG and Blizzcon proves nothing because he did not lose to them. The last time MVP lost to an early game bust with regularity was almost a year ago against July, this is not a trend.

I don't believe that I need to list the myriad of accomplishments MVP has to back up my point. But can you honestly tell me in a best of one you would pick someone from Zenex or Prime to beat MVP? I would question both your intelligence and your sanity if that were the case.
Dictator for Life of the PuMa Fanclub/ DRG, PuMA, Sage, Puzzle, MMA Fighting!
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
January 25 2012 07:41 GMT
#61
I love seeing these write ups! =D

However, in the opening I think there should have been a section for "Others to look out for" because there's also:

- anypro
- Maru
- Nettie
- cOre
- GhostKing (Byun)

and a lot of others that are underrated.

But thanks for the writeup, a good read!
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
January 25 2012 08:06 GMT
#62
On January 25 2012 16:09 drgonzhere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2012 15:56 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On January 25 2012 14:35 drgonzhere wrote:
On January 25 2012 14:23 PrinceXizor wrote:
On January 25 2012 12:01 intel21 wrote:
Why isn't IM listed as a top contender? I'm pretty sure they can win the whole GSTL with 2 players lol.

the two players they don't use?

and I definitely think FXO, Prime, and ZENEX can beat both MVP and Nestea. the former two because of powerful vs Z and vs T of some of their star players, the latter because they are unpredictable, and can beat both of them in BO1 sniping.


Name one player on Zenex that can defeat MVP. Zenex is a washed up team missing its best players, and MVP is the most solid and likely the best player on the planet. I don't think anyone on Prime could either for that matter, possibly Creator but doubtful.


They're called baneling busts. MVP tends to die to them for some reason.

Remember Toodming? Yea, you probably don't because who the hell is Toodming? But he almost knocked MVP out at Blizzcon. Anything can happen in bo1. Hell, Bling and Macsed almost took him out at WCG.


First of all my question was not answered, and has not been answered by your response with any other. And your argument that he ALMOST lost to these players at WCG and Blizzcon proves nothing because he did not lose to them. The last time MVP lost to an early game bust with regularity was almost a year ago against July, this is not a trend.

I don't believe that I need to list the myriad of accomplishments MVP has to back up my point. But can you honestly tell me in a best of one you would pick someone from Zenex or Prime to beat MVP? I would question both your intelligence and your sanity if that were the case.


Almost beating him does matter since the matches in question were bo3. He dropped games, meaning he can just as easily lose in a bo1 which was the point I was making. Nobody has advanced to the point that they're nearly unbeatable even against lower-tier players in bo1, case and point: Tails hasn't really amounted to much of anything in Korea, yet he saved his team in the playoffs against IM by beating MVP AND Nestea.

Go ahead and list his 9 titles or w/e the hell ridiculous number he achieved in 2011, idc, I know he's the favorite. The argument is whether or not he is beatable, which almost everyone has proven to be in bo1. Would not be surprised at all if Creator, MKP, Line, etc managed to snipe him. Or hell, just call qxc back :p. Now if it's bo3+ that's something to be shocked about.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Atoissen
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway1737 Posts
January 25 2012 08:15 GMT
#63
Prime got some exciting players!

Creator <3
“Strength lies not in defense but in attack.”
Atoissen
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway1737 Posts
January 25 2012 08:17 GMT
#64
Btw, someone should make a Creator Fanclub! Future GSL champ <3
“Strength lies not in defense but in attack.”
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12770 Posts
January 25 2012 11:59 GMT
#65
I edited some typos, added some pictures as well as pictures in spoilers.
About IM, when I said that MarineKing and Polt had probably the worst stats for players of their caliber, I immediately thought of Mvp and NesTea, who failed to deliver in the last GSTL. However, they did good in the previous GSTL, but I don't think that their coach strategy (sending out their B teamers and such), plus the fact that NesTea doesn't really want to play in the GSTL (as said in multiple interviews) will allow Incredible Miracle to be a top contender.
WriterMaru
frequency
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia1901 Posts
January 25 2012 12:08 GMT
#66
Creator is really really good, I hope he comes up soon in GSL.

This and the TSL thread have got me thinking to maybe make a "Why FXO will win the GSTL"... hmm...
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Nuithari
Profile Joined December 2010
Belgium737 Posts
January 25 2012 12:18 GMT
#67
Kudos for this thread
I've been hyping prime for some time now to my friends, but few believe me

I do think Prime is on fire! 6 Prime members qualified for code A... 6!!
The KSL has showcased some very nice games from their members as well!

Even more players are looking scary as of late that the OP didn't mention: Maru and cOre for instance.

Other teams have a very decent shot, I wouldn't be surprised if SlayerS took it home. But I'm really feeling the Prime Hype :D
"Marineking's greatest strength is his enjoyment of the game" -Grubby
Keyboard Warrior
Profile Joined December 2011
United States1178 Posts
January 25 2012 12:31 GMT
#68
Great article, although I dont think Prime will win :p

But great article!
Not your regular Keyboard Warrior ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
MetalSlug
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany443 Posts
January 25 2012 12:41 GMT
#69
Great post ! Pime fighting !

I hope we would get one for every team until GSTL kicks off but i guess theres little time left.
Also i think its time for Team Symbols for Starcraft 2
MKP | Maru | Nada | Boxer | Supernova | Keen
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
January 25 2012 12:43 GMT
#70
I liked Prime a lot more back when it still had Maka and HongUn. Without them it feels so sad and empty ;_;
adiga
Profile Joined July 2011
495 Posts
January 25 2012 13:06 GMT
#71
Great post, loved it!
As a huge MKP and Prime fan I hope they will be able to win this time around.
But I believe Prime will really need MKPs a-game this season annyoung/bumblebee can be good against some players but they can easily be as bad as the best for no particular reasons, and Creator not being an unknown player anymore teams will prepare for him a sniper.

So
Thanks a lot for hyping up! this community really needs this kind of posts to build up hype for tournaments and not just relay on the website writers to do the job for them.
The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. The second best time is now.
SoapSC
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands112 Posts
January 25 2012 13:12 GMT
#72
Hopefully people will now not leave Prime.....
umad?
KingPaddy
Profile Joined November 2010
1053 Posts
January 25 2012 15:09 GMT
#73
Prime will take it.
I hope Byun is allowed to play though, I miss him
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
January 25 2012 15:13 GMT
#74
Threads like this make me feel like making a "Why MVP will win the GSTL" thread. But I really don't have time for it these days .
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ElusoryX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Singapore2047 Posts
January 25 2012 15:15 GMT
#75
prime will make it deep i bet :D
xd
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12770 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-25 15:34:16
January 25 2012 15:29 GMT
#76
On January 25 2012 16:41 bittman wrote:
I love seeing these write ups! =D

However, in the opening I think there should have been a section for "Others to look out for" because there's also:

- anypro
- Maru
- Nettie
- cOre
- GhostKing (Byun)

and a lot of others that are underrated.

But thanks for the writeup, a good read!

I hesitated but since in teamleagues there are only 4 or 5 players per team allowed to play, I wrote about the players that are the most likely to play and will have the most impact.
I talked about cOre and Daisy, Classic a bit (forgot anypro and Nettie) who will probably be used against teams weak versus protoss.
I would have done an entire paragraph for Byun, who I consider a very strong terran, probably the best that isn't in the GSL right now. Unfortunately with the "CoCa - Byun" case, he is probably still not allowed to play so we will not see him this season :/.
edit : oh and if you plan to make a thread about your favorite team, go for it :D.
WriterMaru
XRaDiiX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1730 Posts
January 26 2012 05:42 GMT
#77
Prime will win the GSTL no-one can defeat MarineKing no-one not even MVP will take him down this time.
Never GG MKP | IdrA
EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
January 27 2012 07:14 GMT
#78
PRIME FUCK YEAH

prime will win GSTL for sure, my fav team by far :D
savior did nothing wrong
tapk69
Profile Joined January 2011
Portugal264 Posts
January 27 2012 20:38 GMT
#79
I think that byun can play now , at least i saw him play in KSL , and byun is a great TvT weapon so hold your horses , maybe he will play this time.

Great read , i really got my hopes high for Prime to win the GSTL , they have improved after losing 2 of their best players ( polt and honghun ) , and MKP is back really really back. Now we also know that he speaks English and is a good caster .

The only thing i disagree is with TSL because i think that IM , OGS or FXO are scarier than tsl ( even without Mc )
ja foste
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12770 Posts
April 10 2012 08:57 GMT
#80
Told you :D.
(I know this thread is old but since Prime just won I think it's ok to revive it).
WriterMaru
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
April 10 2012 09:08 GMT
#81
On April 10 2012 17:57 Poopi wrote:
Told you :D.
(I know this thread is old but since Prime just won I think it's ok to revive it).




You missed the effect of Ghostking and Maru, though...
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Poopi
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France12770 Posts
April 10 2012 09:16 GMT
#82
On April 10 2012 18:08 Ghanburighan wrote:
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On April 10 2012 17:57 Poopi wrote:
Told you :D.
(I know this thread is old but since Prime just won I think it's ok to revive it).




You missed the effect of Ghostking and Maru, though...

Not really, I knew Byun was a beast but at that time he was not allowed to play. Maru showed his skills afterwards but he didnt do that much in the GSTL itself. I wanted to write about Byun, Maru and Prime ipltac/ksl results but I forgot since there were so.many streams going on (the gathering and IPl mainly).
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ReadySetFire
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Kuwait545 Posts
April 10 2012 09:30 GMT
#83
More like MKP: Future GSTL champion
emc
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3088 Posts
April 10 2012 09:44 GMT
#84
there was a thread about each team winning a gstl, so the i told you so's are irrelevant. I think the first one to pop up was TSL
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