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On January 16 2012 16:39 Azzur wrote:
Many koreans think that there are riches abroad but he is a no-name korean and will be hard pressed to get any decent money. I'm sure a foreign team will pick him up but the amount they will be willing to pay will be far below what he's expecting.
Calling him a no-name korean is stupid. He's in fucking Code S. The top foreigners even have trouble in Code A and Up/Downs, let alone Code S. You forget that often times, (sadly), any of your "no-name" koreans are still miles better than the vast majority of foreign pros. He is a Code-S player. How many of your foreigner heroes have earned that? Don't get me wrong, I want foreigners up there. But there's more to a name than your personality.
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On January 17 2012 02:53 Sphen5117 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2012 16:39 Azzur wrote:
Many koreans think that there are riches abroad but he is a no-name korean and will be hard pressed to get any decent money. I'm sure a foreign team will pick him up but the amount they will be willing to pay will be far below what he's expecting. Calling him a no-name korean is stupid. He's in fucking Code S. The top foreigners even have trouble in Code A and Up/Downs, let alone Code S. You forget that often times, (sadly), any of your "no-name" koreans are still miles better than the vast majority of foreign pros. He is a Code-S player. How many of your foreigner heroes have earned that? Don't get me wrong, I want foreigners up there. But there's more to a name than your personality.
Golden is in Code B o_O
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On January 17 2012 02:51 AeroEffect wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 02:12 Xalorian wrote:On January 17 2012 01:56 HyTex wrote:
This thread is a great example of why 99.9% of the fan base should never go pro.
You work 12 hours a day, 7 days a week for less than Federal Minimum Wage. Working at McDonald's is literally a better life than progaming, unless you're one of the 0.0001% of the populace that makes it to super-stardom. I don't think that any one going pro (someone that have the skill to do it, not someone who just dream to and is like plat) is doing it to earn a shit ton of money. That would be retarded. We pretty much all know that this is not paid that well. Still, most people who aim for that are doing it to earn a living from what they like the most. If you don't "love" to go to tournamenet, to play, to train, to compete... if it's a "job" for you, and not a hobby that you are actually so good that you are paid to do it, to entertain people with you skills, then obviously don't go pro. And it's not that hard to go back to school if you are 18-21 and pro-gaming is not working that well for you. Funny thing is... Im 18, Ive worked at mcdonalds (I hated it..), Im in plat league, and I train everyday for long hours with hopes of becoming a progamer soon. I guess I should find a gun and shoot myself right? No but you might need a better plan than becoming a professional gamer. If gaming is your passion then there are lots of jobs involved in gaming which aren't the risky pro-gamer route. Indie developing (again a bit risky) or gaming journalism are a few careers you could look into.
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Why Dragon, why?
T_T
Too sad.
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oh boy Slayers Zerg lineup taking another hit. i wonder when they're bringing Coca back ^.^
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On January 17 2012 03:19 xXFireandIceXx wrote:
oh boy Slayers Zerg lineup taking another hit. i wonder when they're bringing Coca back ^.^
Slayers plans on going full terran mode, who needs the other races
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On January 17 2012 03:20 OrangeSoda wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 03:19 xXFireandIceXx wrote:
oh boy Slayers Zerg lineup taking another hit. i wonder when they're bringing Coca back ^.^ Slayers plans on going full terran mode, who needs the other races
haha yah they're doing that just fine. but you need a variety, especially for team leagues. besides, Coca was a solid code S player. srsly hope they bring him back soon
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Golden and Dragon to SK Gaming!!!!
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I went from bronze to platinum in 3 days with 4 hours a day training time
I would never even entertain the thought of going pro, if you are slower than that, and need hours upon hours in joke leagues, please do not ruin your future by considering going pro
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On January 17 2012 02:51 AeroEffect wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 02:12 Xalorian wrote:On January 17 2012 01:56 HyTex wrote:
This thread is a great example of why 99.9% of the fan base should never go pro.
You work 12 hours a day, 7 days a week for less than Federal Minimum Wage. Working at McDonald's is literally a better life than progaming, unless you're one of the 0.0001% of the populace that makes it to super-stardom. I don't think that any one going pro (someone that have the skill to do it, not someone who just dream to and is like plat) is doing it to earn a shit ton of money. That would be retarded. We pretty much all know that this is not paid that well. Still, most people who aim for that are doing it to earn a living from what they like the most. If you don't "love" to go to tournamenet, to play, to train, to compete... if it's a "job" for you, and not a hobby that you are actually so good that you are paid to do it, to entertain people with you skills, then obviously don't go pro. And it's not that hard to go back to school if you are 18-21 and pro-gaming is not working that well for you. Funny thing is... Im 18, Ive worked at mcdonalds (I hated it..), Im in plat league, and I train everyday for long hours with hopes of becoming a progamer soon. I guess I should find a gun and shoot myself right?
There is no problem into training for something if you like it, and hoping to become really good later on. But that should just not be your only option.
My point was that for now, since you are only plat, you don't even have to care about pro-gaming salary and shit like that, since you still have a long road to go, the scene will probably have changed thoroughly by the time you are good enough to think about becoming a pro-gamer, finding a team, going to event, etc.
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On January 17 2012 03:20 OrangeSoda wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 03:19 xXFireandIceXx wrote:
oh boy Slayers Zerg lineup taking another hit. i wonder when they're bringing Coca back ^.^ Slayers plans on going full terran mode, who needs the other races
Well clearly boxer misses SKT T1 and wants SlayerS to be just like his old team, therefore all zergs on SlayerS must suffer.
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On January 17 2012 03:32 Xalorian wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 02:51 AeroEffect wrote:On January 17 2012 02:12 Xalorian wrote:On January 17 2012 01:56 HyTex wrote:
This thread is a great example of why 99.9% of the fan base should never go pro.
You work 12 hours a day, 7 days a week for less than Federal Minimum Wage. Working at McDonald's is literally a better life than progaming, unless you're one of the 0.0001% of the populace that makes it to super-stardom. I don't think that any one going pro (someone that have the skill to do it, not someone who just dream to and is like plat) is doing it to earn a shit ton of money. That would be retarded. We pretty much all know that this is not paid that well. Still, most people who aim for that are doing it to earn a living from what they like the most. If you don't "love" to go to tournamenet, to play, to train, to compete... if it's a "job" for you, and not a hobby that you are actually so good that you are paid to do it, to entertain people with you skills, then obviously don't go pro. And it's not that hard to go back to school if you are 18-21 and pro-gaming is not working that well for you. Funny thing is... Im 18, Ive worked at mcdonalds (I hated it..), Im in plat league, and I train everyday for long hours with hopes of becoming a progamer soon. I guess I should find a gun and shoot myself right? There is no problem into training for something if you like it, and hoping to become really good later on. But that should just not be your only option. My point was that for now, since you are only plat, you don't even have to care about pro-gaming salary and shit like that, since you still have a long road to go, the scene will probably have changed thoroughly by the time you are good enough to think about becoming a pro-gamer, finding a team, going to event, etc.
I plan on going to MLG Raleigh and posting good results.
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This is interesting, because on one hand paying a player $20k + while risking that they simply underperform is tough for e-Sports teams at this stage, considering how tight a lot of teams budgets are.
On the other hand, $18k a year for a player like Sleep doesn't seem like a bad deal at all, so maybe I'm more ignorant of what players are actually making than I thought.
At the end of the day teams are already playing to fly their players around and accomadate them while they are there. That's ridiculously expensive when you consider how many tournaments a player like Idra, Ret, Huk, or even MC attends. I really hope every pro doesn't think they deserve $35k a year salary at this stage of the game.
I just hope Dragon and Golden don't have false expectations- SlayerS is an amazing team. Best of luck to both of them =)
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On January 17 2012 02:53 Sphen5117 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2012 16:39 Azzur wrote:
Many koreans think that there are riches abroad but he is a no-name korean and will be hard pressed to get any decent money. I'm sure a foreign team will pick him up but the amount they will be willing to pay will be far below what he's expecting. Calling him a no-name korean is stupid. He's in fucking Code S. The top foreigners even have trouble in Code A and Up/Downs, let alone Code S. You forget that often times, (sadly), any of your "no-name" koreans are still miles better than the vast majority of foreign pros. He is a Code-S player. How many of your foreigner heroes have earned that? Don't get me wrong, I want foreigners up there. But there's more to a name than your personality.
Dude, Golden hasn't even Qualified for Code A.........
He doesn't even stay in the SlayerS house anyway....
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On January 17 2012 03:40 UndoneJin wrote:
This is interesting, because on one hand paying a player $20k + while risking that they simply underperform is tough for e-Sports teams at this stage, considering how tight a lot of teams budgets are.
On the other hand, $18k a year for a player like Sleep doesn't seem like a bad deal at all, so maybe I'm more ignorant of what players are actually making than I thought.
At the end of the day teams are already playing to fly their players around and accomadate them while they are there. That's ridiculously expensive when you consider how many tournaments a player like Idra, Ret, Huk, or even MC attends. I really hope every pro doesn't think they deserve $35k a year salary at this stage of the game.
1.5k is a lot of salary, especially for a korean. I would guess many koreans, some even in Code S, don't make that much.
But maybe Sleep didn't know too much or just wanted to try his chances as he heard foreign teams are paying good.
I find it really inappropriate of Xeris to post this WITH naming the players.
There isn't that much money in SC2 at the moment. And like in every (individual) sport, there is a HUGE gap between the earnings of stars and average players.
(in cycling Contador/Schleck make 2-3 million, the domestiques make 50-100k)
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On January 17 2012 02:53 Sphen5117 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2012 16:39 Azzur wrote:
Many koreans think that there are riches abroad but he is a no-name korean and will be hard pressed to get any decent money. I'm sure a foreign team will pick him up but the amount they will be willing to pay will be far below what he's expecting. Calling him a no-name korean is stupid. He's in fucking Code S. The top foreigners even have trouble in Code A and Up/Downs, let alone Code S. You forget that often times, (sadly), any of your "no-name" koreans are still miles better than the vast majority of foreign pros. He is a Code-S player. How many of your foreigner heroes have earned that? Don't get me wrong, I want foreigners up there. But there's more to a name than your personality.
True but "having a name" can help you get a good salary as i'm sure Geoff "The Personality" Robinson can testify. Getting into code s once several months ago doesn't give you a name or make you a great player now.
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On January 17 2012 03:50 00Visor wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 03:40 UndoneJin wrote:
This is interesting, because on one hand paying a player $20k + while risking that they simply underperform is tough for e-Sports teams at this stage, considering how tight a lot of teams budgets are.
On the other hand, $18k a year for a player like Sleep doesn't seem like a bad deal at all, so maybe I'm more ignorant of what players are actually making than I thought.
At the end of the day teams are already playing to fly their players around and accomadate them while they are there. That's ridiculously expensive when you consider how many tournaments a player like Idra, Ret, Huk, or even MC attends. I really hope every pro doesn't think they deserve $35k a year salary at this stage of the game. 1.5k is a lot of salary, especially for a korean. I would guess many koreans, some even in Code S, don't make that much. But maybe Sleep didn't know too much or just wanted to try his chances as he heard foreign teams are paying good. I find it really inappropriate of Xeris to post this WITH naming the players. There isn't that much money in SC2 at the moment. And like in every (individual) sport, there is a HUGE gap between the earnings of stars and average players. (in cycling Contador/Schleck make 2-3 million, the domestiques make 50-100k)
To be fair, Xeris has started from the beginning that those were just guesses towards the salaries of other players. For example, at lot of people had already speculated that HuK was in the 6 figures for his salary. At the same time, a lot of the other estimates seemed reasonable, especially when you factor in that fact that a lot of Korean teams are having problems finding sponsorship.
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whattt why T_T oh well...
gl to them in the future
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I believe both players are looking for more support to further progress their skills, and it's kind of true that foreign teams are more accomodating in that sense.
For all Dragon fans who are tweeting him - Dragon has confirmed that he will continue streaming, on TwitchTV. Hope this helps.
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On January 17 2012 04:08 dearyuna wrote:
I believe both players are looking for more support to further progress their skills, and it's kind of true that American teams are more accomodating in that sense.
For all Dragon fans who are tweeting him - Dragon has confirmed that he will continue streaming, on TwitchTV. Hope this helps.
Dragon is not and will not ever be a competitive player.
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