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Hey guys, I was watching ShoutCRAFT and I was saying to myself... wow 50k people watching and only 5k$ for prizes ? This atention , I guess would generate more revenue hmmm... and then I went on day9tv mirc channel and wrote this :
[22:13] <bOne7> lol guys 50k people watching shoutcraft invitational
[22:13] * antinova (~whyme101@c-87-251-222-185.cust.bredband2.com) has joined #day9tv
[22:13] <bOne7> a tournament with that atention would totally deserve more than 5k$ :D
[22:13] <Jingwa_Nyanda> the prizepool is a blizz restriction
[22:14] <Jingwa_Nyanda> I think it's Blizz gets half of all profits for pools over 5K
Is this true? Does blizzard actually restricts it ? Because if it is true, Blizzard's gone from no respect ( on my side ) , to total loathing.( until at least some one explains me how this would help the community )
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Yep, this is true, any online tourney that wants to have a <$5000 prize pool has to pay a fee to blizzard...
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On January 16 2012 05:38 ASNheat wrote:
I really don't understand this as it doesn't make sense for them to stop their own games' development. :|
Money Money Money. Blizzard's own motto.
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ok so I'm focusing all my hate towards Blizzard right now....I'm getting dizzy actually :-/ .... Instead of actually supporting the esports community you want to .... oh ... I'm rather sad...
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Stream chat's are not often a reliable source of info.
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On January 16 2012 05:43 bOneSeven wrote:
ok so I'm focusing all my hate towards Blizzard right now....I'm getting dizzy actually :-/ .... Instead of actually supporting the esports community you want to .... oh ... I'm rather sad...
It isn't that big of a deal o.o.
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juicyjames
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Blizzard doesn't get half of all profits for prize pools over $5K.
"Not sure how much it is in the states. Polish tournament organizers told me it's 10-15% from the entire prize pool IF it's over 5,000 USD." - mki
"This is what I know. Yes, you can go over $5k with special dispensation from Blizzard. However, it is policy for them to then require 50% of your ad revenue. I know of several large tournaments that have had to do this. If SHOUTcraft Invitational were to do this, it would mean less money getting into the hands of players, which is completely against what the tournament is all about. It makes no sense for SCI to do this, rather than just run more than one event." - TotalBiscuit
"This isn't entirely accurate, and as far as i'm aware most tournament organizers are under NDA once they go over 5K so you won't get a proper explanation....its not as money grubbing as the OP makes it out to be. Closing, unless TB actually isn't under NDA (you can PM me)." - Kennigit
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If you want bigger tournaments, you need a special tournament license from Blizzard, which costs money, and they take % of all the money u make
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On January 16 2012 05:46 Xeris wrote:
If you want bigger tournaments, you need a special tournament license from Blizzard, which costs money, and they take % of all the money u make
Is right! 
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On January 16 2012 05:46 Xeris wrote:
If you want bigger tournaments, you need a special tournament license from Blizzard, which costs money, and they take % of all the money u make
Lame!!
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I guess that's Blizzards way to make money beside selling the game. In WoW they have a monthly fee to support and earn money. So I guess this is better?
For us (Players)
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I was saying that Blizzard were a rather vicious corporation after the merge with Activision ... but I was not aware of this then ... now I can only say .... IDK , why would people even support Blizzard anyways ? What they have done in SC2 to make the esports scene better ? Anything at all ? I'm sure that patching costs really not that much money.
Nvm about the NDA just googled it :D .... Anyways ... Horrible Horrible Blizzard ... The ones who own it are rather horrible people ...
As IdrA said ... they probably won't help balance to game so it get more competitively ... They won't do anything to make it better for competition because they are BLIZZARD ... GG IdrA I'm ure fan for ever for saying what no1 else really said being in his position.
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On January 16 2012 05:52 JoeAWESOME wrote:
I guess that's Blizzards way to make money beside selling the game. In WoW they have a monthly fee to support and earn money. So I guess this is better?
For us (Players)
If it gets to the point where sc2 is mainstream, then no, it is not better for us (players)
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On January 16 2012 05:53 bOneSeven wrote:
What they have done in SC2 to make the esports scene better ?
Made BW and SC2. There's that
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On January 16 2012 05:56 Diamond wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2012 05:53 bOneSeven wrote:
What they have done in SC2 to make the esports scene better ? Made BW and SC2. There's that
How does this entitle them to a stake in everything arising from the broadcast of said games, though? Yes, I'm aware that the US has some really retarded copyright laws that make it legal to retain indefinite rights to basically everything you do with any product, but from a straightforward point of view, how could this really be thought of as logical?
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blizzard runs all the bnet servers and continues to patch the game and release new maps. Tournaments are the only continuing source of income for them since the game is only sold once. Whether they make a shit ton of money or not is no reason to loath them. Its a much better way for them to have a strong relationship with tournament organizers and continue to make money without subscriptions from players. Imo, it would also be unfair for tourney organizer to make money off their servers and hard work for no fee.
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On January 16 2012 05:56 Diamond wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2012 05:53 bOneSeven wrote:
What they have done in SC2 to make the esports scene better ? Made BW and SC2. There's that
They made that for money. They got their money, now what have they done after that ? You wanna tell me they made SC2 to help the esports scene ? No, they would help the esports scene if they would remove this unreasonable restriction , lower the price to the game ( expansion set appears in less than 6 months so it's perfectly reasonable ) to maybe 10-15$ so it gets more players-> more spectators for the game . and spend some resources to try and balance the game to make it more competitively. "There's that"
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Since there are so many tournaments with a larger prizepool than 5k, the blizzard tournament fee cant be that bad.
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