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Insomni7
Profile Joined June 2011
667 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-03 16:50:07
January 03 2012 16:43 GMT
#101
I dont quite understand how it works. how can you decide if the foot pedal moves your screen or sets a new location?
from the video it looks like it always does both. That seems annoying.

Also you can see at 1:38 he uses a Razer Naga. This guy really likes unconventional setups.
Never Forget.
g.Sagan
Profile Joined September 2010
36 Posts
January 03 2012 16:44 GMT
#102
All questions of practicality aside.... He is simulating multiple keyboards events from the condition of a single keystroke (foot switch). The current screen/camera position is saved (first keystroke) and then the previously saved position is recalled (second keystroke) all with only a single event. This is against Battle.nets Terms of Use for anyone contemplating using something that works on the same premise.

Despite all of that though, I still applaud this guy for setting himself a challenge of designing and building the system. Regardless of its practicality and legitimacy, it's still something he can say he accomplished, and if he gets satisfaction from it then more power to him (and to the trolls; No I'm not advocating the use of this for anything other than a curiosity).
bluQ
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany1724 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-03 16:58:33
January 03 2012 16:56 GMT
#103
On January 04 2012 01:44 g.Sagan wrote:
All questions of practicality aside.... He is simulating multiple keyboards events from the condition of a single keystroke (foot switch). The current screen/camera position is saved (first keystroke) and then the previously saved position is recalled (second keystroke) all with only a single event. This is against Battle.nets Terms of Use for anyone contemplating using something that works on the same premise.

Despite all of that though, I still applaud this guy for setting himself a challenge of designing and building the system. Regardless of its practicality and legitimacy, it's still something he can say he accomplished, and if he gets satisfaction from it then more power to him (and to the trolls; No I'm not advocating the use of this for anything other than a curiosity).

Erm, i guess he just saved the position previously because the only thing this pedal can do is 0 and 1 which means it cant differe between "save" and "load" when the only thing u do is always a single hit on the pedal. If there is some script behind it then yes it is against the rules.

Hum just noticed you would also need some sort of logic if you really only hit the pedal once to switch positions ... whatever xD
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g.Sagan
Profile Joined September 2010
36 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-03 17:17:18
January 03 2012 17:13 GMT
#104
Erm, i guess he just saved the position previously because the only thing this pedal can do is 0 and 1 which means it cant differe between "save" and "load" when the only thing u do is always a single hit on the pedal.


His opening statement is that - "The player can swap between two locations by pressing the foot peddle, and secondly these locations can change over time to allow both flexibility as the game progresses."

I'm not sure where he says that the program that controls the micro-controllers operation only executes a single "save or load" per key-press. I think you are just making an incorrect assumption, in fact I can see it in his code clear as day. He may only be pressing the foot peddle once but the code is simulating multiple keystrokes each time he does.

+ Show Spoiler +

int main(void) {
while (1) {
if(DI == 1){
if(alternating){
keyboard.keyCode(KEY_F5, 1);
wait(0,1);
keyboard.keyCode(KEY_F6);
}else{
keyboard.keyCode(KEY_F6, 1);
wait(0,1);
keyboard.keyCode(KEY_F5);
}
lights(alternating0;
alternating = !alternating;
}
wait(0.0002);
}
}


Mouzone
Profile Joined April 2011
3937 Posts
January 03 2012 17:28 GMT
#105
Watching this makes me want to train a monkey to become the greatest Starcraft player of all time. Imagine the apm of his 4 limb interaction!

I'd call him Chimpro.
-stOpSKY-
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada498 Posts
January 03 2012 20:33 GMT
#106
I hope this is just a troll. You can do the exact samething with screen hotkey saves and any good player should be using them.
Exempt.
Profile Joined May 2011
United States470 Posts
January 03 2012 20:37 GMT
#107
On January 03 2012 09:13 Beorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2012 09:09 SkimGuy wrote:
I'm sure any grandmaster play could use their hotkeys faster than pressing their foot on a pedal, but it's a nice innovation.


Yeah, but what if there was a separate keyboard to use with your toes? There are people who can play musical instruments with their feet, if pro gamers really want the best edge, having 20 digits to press keys with would surely be better than just 10.


not true because no ones even close to the skillcap with just 10 digits. Also those 10 digits can be mapped to 20 easily.
AGIANTSMURF
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1232 Posts
January 03 2012 21:59 GMT
#108
danm, this totally shits on the under-arm hotkey control that i was working on.....

touche good sir.
Thats "Grand-Master" SMURF to you.....
fvlt
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6 Posts
January 03 2012 22:04 GMT
#109
couldn't you just use the gas / brake pedal from a racing wheel? i used to use it in steam games for activating my mic
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
January 03 2012 22:11 GMT
#110
On January 04 2012 07:04 fvlt wrote:
couldn't you just use the gas / brake pedal from a racing wheel? i used to use it in steam games for activating my mic


hahaha I do this, fucking hell I knew I wasn't the only one!!

I use the clutch pedal though. :p
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
MrTortoise
Profile Joined January 2011
1388 Posts
January 03 2012 22:12 GMT
#111
On January 03 2012 09:12 TrickyGilligan wrote:
I've got this bad boy hooked up to my computer, and thanks several nifty bits of software, I've even set it up so that I can play SC2.

Is it practical? Lol fuck no. Good times though.

[image loading]


Honestly though I haven't tried just the foot pedals. I can see it being better than the 7-8 buttons on the keyboard for me at least, I already have 9 and 0 rebound to my mouse, and 7 and 8 are the only remaining keys I still sometimes miss on my keyboard.

Now, let's see what happens when I show up to MLG with this monstrosity...




that look sliek a mech warrior rig ... i miss that game.
and descent

how many axis of rotation can you handle at once on a keyboard?
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-03 22:16:45
January 03 2012 22:14 GMT
#112
NOPE I AM WRONG

Came with Steel Battalion! Not Mech Warrior :p
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
Xapti
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2473 Posts
January 03 2012 22:19 GMT
#113
On January 04 2012 01:44 g.Sagan wrote:
All questions of practicality aside.... He is simulating multiple keyboards events from the condition of a single keystroke (foot switch). The current screen/camera position is saved (first keystroke) and then the previously saved position is recalled (second keystroke) all with only a single event. This is against Battle.nets Terms of Use for anyone contemplating using something that works on the same premise.

Despite all of that though, I still applaud this guy for setting himself a challenge of designing and building the system. Regardless of its practicality and legitimacy, it's still something he can say he accomplished, and if he gets satisfaction from it then more power to him (and to the trolls; No I'm not advocating the use of this for anything other than a curiosity).
Iw as going to say pretty much the same thing as you.

Frankly, I'm surprised it took so long for anyone to point this out tough — this isn't just an extra button, it's macro/automation functionality.

That said, using pedals (I'd say more foot switches, since pedals are typically analog and hence more expensive and less effective as buttons) without macros could maybe be viable, but still probably never used by much more than a small minority. It would be interesting to see if any high level players adopt a device like this though (and by high level I mean anyone winning tournaments, not just (inter)national stars)
"Then he told me to tell you that he wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire" — "Well, you tell him that I said that I wouldn't piss on him if he was on Jeopardy!"
Mrvoodoochild1
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1439 Posts
January 03 2012 22:32 GMT
#114
Because it's too difficult to hotkey and cycle through buildings and locations on the map you need to get a foot petal O.o? This video blew my mind.
"let your freak flag fly"
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
January 03 2012 22:34 GMT
#115
On January 04 2012 07:04 fvlt wrote:
couldn't you just use the gas / brake pedal from a racing wheel? i used to use it in steam games for activating my mic


This is genius and I really want to do this. Such a pain finding a good push to talk mic key.
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Naughty
Profile Joined March 2011
United States114 Posts
January 03 2012 22:34 GMT
#116
I Guess if you had good hand feet coordination having a button or two that can be pressed while your hands are preforming other commands could come in handy, It would have to be a more responsive setup than in the video, and perhaps assigned to a better task than recalling set map locations.
0kz
Profile Joined January 2010
Italy1118 Posts
January 03 2012 22:42 GMT
#117
this thread made me smile
but honestly.. I think I'll stick to my normal keyboard ( hotkey locations isn't that hard.. )
SEA KarMa
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia452 Posts
January 03 2012 22:45 GMT
#118
i never use the spacebar key, and it just doesnt seem viable to be used in practicality. if it was a useful hotkey, it might be viable.
"terrible, terrible damage". terrible, terrible design.
Millard
Profile Joined June 2011
United States11 Posts
January 03 2012 22:51 GMT
#119
Your pedal sensitivity is way too low.
If men would observe realities only, life, to compare it with such things as we know, would be like a fairy tale.
dani`
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands2402 Posts
January 03 2012 23:07 GMT
#120
It takes like a year to press that pedal all the way down, so no.
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