EPTStarCraft gaming foot pedal
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Gemfog
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Nortac
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IntoTheBush
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JOJOsc2news
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On January 03 2012 08:59 Nortac wrote: lol Exactly my thought. | ||
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agahamsorr0w
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Seiferz
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NB
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SkimGuy
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TrickyGilligan
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Is it practical? Lol fuck no. Good times though. ![[image loading]](http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-1liLJWcqaq4/Tg-C--iW1iI/AAAAAAAAACs/S5kbUzknXkI/s1600/sb.jpg) Honestly though I haven't tried just the foot pedals. I can see it being better than the 7-8 buttons on the keyboard for me at least, I already have 9 and 0 rebound to my mouse, and 7 and 8 are the only remaining keys I still sometimes miss on my keyboard. Now, let's see what happens when I show up to MLG with this monstrosity... | ||
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bluQ
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Beorning
United States243 Posts
On January 03 2012 09:09 SkimGuy wrote: I'm sure any grandmaster play could use their hotkeys faster than pressing their foot on a pedal, but it's a nice innovation. Yeah, but what if there was a separate keyboard to use with your toes? There are people who can play musical instruments with their feet, if pro gamers really want the best edge, having 20 digits to press keys with would surely be better than just 10. | ||
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s.a.y
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Useless but cool | ||
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zakmaa
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fantasy305
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Flamingo777
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Badfatpanda
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Denzil
United Kingdom4193 Posts
I play starcraft with a drumkit. I create a musical symphony of my opponents demise. | ||
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TheLOLas
United States646 Posts
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hoby2000
United States918 Posts
Anyway, the point is that I eventually hooked up a Nostromo gamepad and used one of the corners buttons as my switch. Worked pretty well. I would hold my foot down sometimes on accident while doing something and sometimes my guild would hear me singing or humming along to my music... haha. The problem I could see with starcraft is that people don't have very good hand-food coordination; In fact, this type of thing takes years to develop - Just look at any modern rock drummer, or ask anyone who knows how to play a musical instrument that's not drums, and has tried to play. The foot pedal is really hard because you have to move it independently of your hands, sometimes in rhythms that even accomplished piano players can't do. | ||
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MCDayC
United Kingdom14464 Posts
On January 03 2012 09:13 Beorning wrote: Yeah, but what if there was a separate keyboard to use with your toes? There are people who can play musical instruments with their feet, if pro gamers really want the best edge, having 20 digits to press keys with would surely be better than just 10. hhahahaha, epic. I honestly can't tell if I'm being trolled with this or not. On January 03 2012 09:27 Denzil wrote: You guys must all be living in the past, using footpads mice and keyboards. I play starcraft with a drumkit. I create a musical symphony of my opponents demise. Drumkit? So 2011, I play on a mutherfucking saxophone, while my feet play the bongo;s. GOML son. | ||
ManaO
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arthurrr157
United States118 Posts
No | ||
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GGPope
Australia367 Posts
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halfies
United Kingdom327 Posts
but maybe he genuinely finds it useful and im just wrong | ||
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kiy0
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
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StrinterN
Denmark531 Posts
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xlava
United States676 Posts
Why exactly would we need this? I mean its would be great for people missing fingers, or the like, but I mean I don't think there's a place for it in the game in general. | ||
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mnck
Denmark1518 Posts
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soulist
United States932 Posts
On January 03 2012 09:52 mnck wrote: WCG Grand Finals 2015 a player will use this device to secure victory changing the world of progaming as we know it! too bad wcg will be dead by then. | ||
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Jacobs Ladder
United States1705 Posts
On January 03 2012 09:23 CptCutter wrote: i guess the guy who made it hasnt realised that there are buttons and hotkeys for this. Of course he did, how else do you think he implemented it? | ||
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Mortal
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Kuni
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Papulatus
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ElvisWayCool
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44326 Posts
I need to learn how to play StarCraft on a DDR pad. | ||
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Erik.TheRed
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Havek
Denmark20 Posts
It's a really cool idea, but is it practical? no not at all. It might help out a small percentage of people, but not everybody. But lets see what happens over the next couple of years if this thing works properly (which I don't think it will) but if it do, then it's up to organizations lile MLG, NASL, GSL and what not to determine if they wanna allow it and use it.  | ||
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FlyingDike
United States221 Posts
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DrGreen
Poland708 Posts
well you could set up some hotkeys for your feet, i think its even legal to do it Imagine those close ups on pros feet in GSL. | ||
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Warillions
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
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sjh
Canada136 Posts
I think it is a very clever idea. Obviously it isn't for everyone, but some people will definitely appreciate it. For shame TL, For shame! | ||
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DGenerate
Canada140 Posts
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KimJongChill
United States6429 Posts
On January 03 2012 09:12 TrickyGilligan wrote: I've got this bad boy hooked up to my computer, and thanks several nifty bits of software, I've even set it up so that I can play SC2. Is it practical? Lol fuck no. Good times though. Honestly though I haven't tried just the foot pedals. I can see it being better than the 7-8 buttons on the keyboard for me at least, I already have 9 and 0 rebound to my mouse, and 7 and 8 are the only remaining keys I still sometimes miss on my keyboard. Now, let's see what happens when I show up to MLG with this monstrosity... sick as shit, must feel like a terran commander. | ||
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Ettick
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peekn
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royal.cze
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sc14s
United States5052 Posts
On January 03 2012 09:02 brachester wrote: i think blizzard do ban these kinda stuff as well no, blizzard doesn't care what you use for an input device as long as its not a hack.. OT: kinda cool , but i doubt it's the future. | ||
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Slivered Skin
Canada347 Posts
On January 03 2012 11:25 sc14s wrote: no, blizzard doesn't care what you use for an input device as long as its not a hack.. OT: kinda cool , but i doubt it's the future. However, they will ban for using this device for 2 keypresses, as the OP is doing (control + Fkey). If you choose to use the pedal, use it for backspace or something if you really have to, but if you continue to use it as it is right now you'll get banned for using macros. | ||
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Drizzt3
United States189 Posts
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Fealthas
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You seem serious but is this april fools early? | ||
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MoreFaSho
United States1427 Posts
"The petal is so natural to use, I wouldn't know for sure because I move this awkwardly in all of 3d-space. | ||
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mhsMILKe
United States14 Posts
I guess? My opinion, no. This is not feasible. | ||
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greendestiny
Bosnia-Herzegovina114 Posts
"Over here, I will make a Pylon *THUD THUD* It's real easy to use *THUD THUD THUD*" :-) | ||
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Vansetsu
United States1454 Posts
On January 03 2012 09:12 TrickyGilligan wrote: I've got this bad boy hooked up to my computer, and thanks several nifty bits of software, I've even set it up so that I can play SC2. Is it practical? Lol fuck no. Good times though. Honestly though I haven't tried just the foot pedals. I can see it being better than the 7-8 buttons on the keyboard for me at least, I already have 9 and 0 rebound to my mouse, and 7 and 8 are the only remaining keys I still sometimes miss on my keyboard. Now, let's see what happens when I show up to MLG with this monstrosity... Wow... if I would have known my Steel Battalion Peripherals could be hooked up to my PC... I probably would have never sold them :< | ||
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Duban
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lorestarcraft
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Belisarius
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On January 03 2012 13:06 Duban wrote: As mentioned; Hotkeys could do the same thing better. It does give me a good idea for a hotkey setup that doesn't require any illegal macros. Set up two hotkeys, say t & y. Set the t key to create location 2 & jump to location 1. Then set the y key to create location 1, and jump to location 2. This way you could easily switch back and forth between two locations using hotkeys, within the game's rules. That's an illegal macro, though. You're performing two actions with one key-press. | ||
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Duban
United States548 Posts
On January 03 2012 13:10 Belisarius wrote: That's an illegal macro, though. You're performing two actions with one key-press. A macro is a set of instructions that uses code outside of starcraft to execute. This would just be setting up the hotkeys, within starcraft, to do two actions at once. You would be setting two instructions to the same button. | ||
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JuuMeijin
Sweden164 Posts
![[image loading]](http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/01/brando-usb-pedal-01-06-2010.jpg) One of these would be pretty nice, not only could you use it for SC2 but also bind it to work for other programs as well such as Illustrator/Photoshop and so on. | ||
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Belisarius
Australia6230 Posts
On January 03 2012 13:13 Duban wrote: A macro is a set of instructions that uses code outside of starcraft to execute. This would just be setting up the hotkeys, within starcraft, to do two actions at once. You would be setting two instructions to the same button. Oh, right. Well, I'm fairly sure Starcraft doesn't allow hotkey clashes, probably for that reason. Happy to be proven wrong, but I will always remember the game I lost because I rebound roach burrow to the same key as fungal and didn't notice until the engagement. Infestors need burrow too, ya know. | ||
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Malkavian183
Turkey227 Posts
seriously there are many hotkeys and stuff for this but really funny :D | ||
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StarBrift
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MurMiLLo
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ApBuLLet
United States604 Posts
On January 03 2012 12:14 greendestiny wrote: The sound of the pressed pedal is making me chuckle every time I hear it. "Over here, I will make a Pylon *THUD THUD* It's real easy to use *THUD THUD THUD*" :-) Lmao! That got me going too | ||
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LF9
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naux
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vaL4r
Germany240 Posts
On January 03 2012 09:13 Beorning wrote: Yeah, but what if there was a separate keyboard to use with your toes? There are people who can play musical instruments with their feet, if pro gamers really want the best edge, having 20 digits to press keys with would surely be better than just 10. I believe you do have a point, however I don't see this happening in the foreseeable future.In a few centuries perhaps.. however by then we will probably have access to mind reading machines wich seems like a way more efficient input device ^_^ [edit]: spelling mistakes Qq | ||
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GuiltyJerk
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HyTex
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TuElite
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On January 03 2012 08:59 Nortac wrote: lol This! I actually lol'd and quite a lot too, almost hurt myself. wtf lol damn. | ||
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Roope
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Quesadilla
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s2pid_loser
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this might be helpful for people who have money for this and also dont know how to hotkey regular keyboad buttons | ||
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Aquilla
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kkeke
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![[image loading]](http://www.inc.com/uploaded_files/image/feature-92-emotive1_304.jpg) Link | ||
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FoxyMayhem
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EDIT: After reading that article, I was hopeful. Turns out that article is from 2007, though, and the reviews of the current product are very lackluster. The input, it seems, is just not direct enough, and inconsistent. I doubt that is the future of gaming. Face tracking the small, incredibly fast muscles of the face may be! | ||
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caradoc
Canada3022 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Good idea, getting a new razer keyboard for sc2. Bad idea, getting a new footpedal for sc2. Good idea, getting a new foot pedal for your piano. Bad idea, getting a new foot pedal for your sc2. The end. EDIT: reminds me a bit of | ||
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Bojas
Netherlands2397 Posts
On January 03 2012 09:12 TrickyGilligan wrote: I've got this bad boy hooked up to my computer, and thanks several nifty bits of software, I've even set it up so that I can play SC2. Is it practical? Lol fuck no. Good times though. Honestly though I haven't tried just the foot pedals. I can see it being better than the 7-8 buttons on the keyboard for me at least, I already have 9 and 0 rebound to my mouse, and 7 and 8 are the only remaining keys I still sometimes miss on my keyboard. Now, let's see what happens when I show up to MLG with this monstrosity... ROFL must be awesome to play using that 'device'. | ||
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nooboon
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Abort Retry Fail
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Thanks for this OP | ||
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Spicy_Curry
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figq
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On January 03 2012 09:13 Beorning wrote: Genius idea, there are no regulations for how to use the keyboard - so if one can train to sit with their legs up to the table and use simultaneously toes and left hand for keyboard + right hand for mouse, he could become the sc2 Michael Johnson.There are people who can play musical instruments with their feet, if pro gamers really want the best edge, having 20 digits to press keys with would surely be better than just 10. | ||
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Cereb
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speedphlux
Bulgaria962 Posts
I really can't see that one catching up. Besides, the guy in the OP's video is too geeky. I could've done the same thing 100 times more easly, thru my Logitech steering wheel profiler, just adding keyboard keys that I don't use to my pedals and then assigning them into SC2 hotkeys. No brainer really, but why bother when your feet can never be quicker then your fingers ? I do come from racing games background (rFactor mainly), which uses pedals and such a lot, but that's a huge waste IMHO. Everyone by now is used to using their eyes, hands and fingers only when it comes down to RTS, FPS and whatever else type of games you can pretty much think of. Can't see that changing, unless you're handicapped in some way and can't reach the F2-F4 keys on your keyboard. | ||
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cmen15
United States1519 Posts
On January 03 2012 10:00 Kuni wrote: Clearly made for Hellions lolol well played sir | ||
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JonB
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HuskyGoalie
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Elldar
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dignitas.ToH1o
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Chemist
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Chaosvuistje
Netherlands2581 Posts
![[image loading]](http://www.technovelgy.com/graphics/content08/predator-wrist-display1.jpg) Now I just need a joystick for Mutalisk micro :D | ||
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Rassy
Netherlands2308 Posts
The skill ceiling of sc2 just got higher again lol | ||
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Insomni7
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from the video it looks like it always does both. That seems annoying. Also you can see at 1:38 he uses a Razer Naga. This guy really likes unconventional setups. | ||
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g.Sagan
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Despite all of that though, I still applaud this guy for setting himself a challenge of designing and building the system. Regardless of its practicality and legitimacy, it's still something he can say he accomplished, and if he gets satisfaction from it then more power to him (and to the trolls; No I'm not advocating the use of this for anything other than a curiosity). | ||
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bluQ
Germany1724 Posts
On January 04 2012 01:44 g.Sagan wrote: All questions of practicality aside.... He is simulating multiple keyboards events from the condition of a single keystroke (foot switch). The current screen/camera position is saved (first keystroke) and then the previously saved position is recalled (second keystroke) all with only a single event. This is against Battle.nets Terms of Use for anyone contemplating using something that works on the same premise. Despite all of that though, I still applaud this guy for setting himself a challenge of designing and building the system. Regardless of its practicality and legitimacy, it's still something he can say he accomplished, and if he gets satisfaction from it then more power to him (and to the trolls; No I'm not advocating the use of this for anything other than a curiosity). Erm, i guess he just saved the position previously because the only thing this pedal can do is 0 and 1 which means it cant differe between "save" and "load" when the only thing u do is always a single hit on the pedal. If there is some script behind it then yes it is against the rules. Hum just noticed you would also need some sort of logic if you really only hit the pedal once to switch positions ... whatever xD | ||
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g.Sagan
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Erm, i guess he just saved the position previously because the only thing this pedal can do is 0 and 1 which means it cant differe between "save" and "load" when the only thing u do is always a single hit on the pedal. His opening statement is that - "The player can swap between two locations by pressing the foot peddle, and secondly these locations can change over time to allow both flexibility as the game progresses." I'm not sure where he says that the program that controls the micro-controllers operation only executes a single "save or load" per key-press. I think you are just making an incorrect assumption, in fact I can see it in his code clear as day. He may only be pressing the foot peddle once but the code is simulating multiple keystrokes each time he does. + Show Spoiler + int main(void) { while (1) { if(DI == 1){ if(alternating){ keyboard.keyCode(KEY_F5, 1); wait(0,1); keyboard.keyCode(KEY_F6); }else{ keyboard.keyCode(KEY_F6, 1); wait(0,1); keyboard.keyCode(KEY_F5); } lights(alternating0; alternating = !alternating; } wait(0.0002); } } | ||
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Mouzone
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I'd call him Chimpro. | ||
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-stOpSKY-
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Exempt.
United States470 Posts
On January 03 2012 09:13 Beorning wrote: Yeah, but what if there was a separate keyboard to use with your toes? There are people who can play musical instruments with their feet, if pro gamers really want the best edge, having 20 digits to press keys with would surely be better than just 10. not true because no ones even close to the skillcap with just 10 digits. Also those 10 digits can be mapped to 20 easily. | ||
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AGIANTSMURF
United States1232 Posts
touche good sir. | ||
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fvlt
United States6 Posts
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Torenhire
United States11681 Posts
On January 04 2012 07:04 fvlt wrote: couldn't you just use the gas / brake pedal from a racing wheel? i used to use it in steam games for activating my mic hahaha I do this, fucking hell I knew I wasn't the only one!! I use the clutch pedal though. :p | ||
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MrTortoise
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On January 03 2012 09:12 TrickyGilligan wrote: I've got this bad boy hooked up to my computer, and thanks several nifty bits of software, I've even set it up so that I can play SC2. Is it practical? Lol fuck no. Good times though. Honestly though I haven't tried just the foot pedals. I can see it being better than the 7-8 buttons on the keyboard for me at least, I already have 9 and 0 rebound to my mouse, and 7 and 8 are the only remaining keys I still sometimes miss on my keyboard. Now, let's see what happens when I show up to MLG with this monstrosity... that look sliek a mech warrior rig ... i miss that game. and descent how many axis of rotation can you handle at once on a keyboard? | ||
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Torenhire
United States11681 Posts
Came with Steel Battalion! Not Mech Warrior :p | ||
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Xapti
Canada2473 Posts
On January 04 2012 01:44 g.Sagan wrote: Iw as going to say pretty much the same thing as you.All questions of practicality aside.... He is simulating multiple keyboards events from the condition of a single keystroke (foot switch). The current screen/camera position is saved (first keystroke) and then the previously saved position is recalled (second keystroke) all with only a single event. This is against Battle.nets Terms of Use for anyone contemplating using something that works on the same premise. Despite all of that though, I still applaud this guy for setting himself a challenge of designing and building the system. Regardless of its practicality and legitimacy, it's still something he can say he accomplished, and if he gets satisfaction from it then more power to him (and to the trolls; No I'm not advocating the use of this for anything other than a curiosity). Frankly, I'm surprised it took so long for anyone to point this out tough — this isn't just an extra button, it's macro/automation functionality. That said, using pedals (I'd say more foot switches, since pedals are typically analog and hence more expensive and less effective as buttons) without macros could maybe be viable, but still probably never used by much more than a small minority. It would be interesting to see if any high level players adopt a device like this though (and by high level I mean anyone winning tournaments, not just (inter)national stars) | ||
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Mrvoodoochild1
United States1439 Posts
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Logo
United States7542 Posts
On January 04 2012 07:04 fvlt wrote: couldn't you just use the gas / brake pedal from a racing wheel? i used to use it in steam games for activating my mic This is genius and I really want to do this. Such a pain finding a good push to talk mic key. | ||
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Naughty
United States114 Posts
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0kz
Italy1118 Posts
but honestly.. I think I'll stick to my normal keyboard  ( hotkey locations isn't that hard.. ) | ||
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SEA KarMa
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Millard
United States11 Posts
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dani`
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Kevan
Sweden2303 Posts
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Kal_rA
United States2925 Posts
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caradoc
Canada3022 Posts
god this thread just keeps on giving. + Show Spoiler + On January 03 2012 10:00 Kuni wrote: Clearly made for Hellions On January 03 2012 10:05 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: This thread made me laugh so hard that I started to cry. I need to learn how to play StarCraft on a DDR pad. On January 03 2012 14:27 Roope wrote: You do realize you can make those hotkeys on your keyboard already without the foot pedal? On January 04 2012 01:16 Chaosvuistje wrote: This'll go great with my predator wrist device used for blowing up my banelings! Now I just need a joystick for Mutalisk micro :D On January 03 2012 12:14 greendestiny wrote: The sound of the pressed pedal is making me chuckle every time I hear it. "Over here, I will make a Pylon *THUD THUD* It's real easy to use *THUD THUD THUD*" :-) On January 04 2012 00:32 Cereb wrote: Rofl! This is like opening a milk carton with a hammer :p | ||
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Detri
United Kingdom683 Posts
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vOdToasT
Sweden2870 Posts
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Vei
United States2845 Posts
Exactly my thought. | ||
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sluggaslamoo
Australia4494 Posts
I have decided to completely change my gaming rig to something much more optimised. ![[image loading]](http://www.yamahacommercialaudio.com/ca/uk/10_news/30_broadcast_recording/archive/2008_02/28_telemadrid/big.jpg) | ||
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Deadeight
United Kingdom1629 Posts
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Beijerinator
Sweden7 Posts
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FinBenton
Finland870 Posts
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SigmaoctanusIV
United States3313 Posts
not practical but neat idea. | ||
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Doomtrain2
Germany45 Posts
On January 03 2012 09:32 ManaO wrote: I actually find f2-3-4- easier than that :p Well f1-2-3-4-5-6 are used for bases. I wonder where your base keys because you seem to use cams.. I realy like the idea of using your feed, which rule says that you ought only to use ur hands? none. And about speed. Yes these drum-pads that he uses are very slow but just imagine a proper pad and a good sitting position. You can also just use your big toe for another hotkey! I regularly train new hotkeys and try new setups - because its fun. And it takes just 2 days to get used to new stuff. So learning just 2 hotkeys (your big toe or your feed) wouldn't be bad at all... And it's definetly faster then not using it (if fast proper pedals). On the ohter hand using your hands is realy fast too... You can combine keys use modifiers.. I didn't hear that I don't have enough keys on my keyboard - especially not in starcraft. @OT: Im using all 8 camera keys (yes swapping betwen warp in and army) all 11 groups (including warpgates so 10+1=11) And ALL THAT WITHOUT YOUR PEDAL THX | ||
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Bazzyrick
United Kingdom361 Posts
Oh god I'm lol'ing out loud at work, everyone thinks I'm insane. Edit: Now i'm having even funnier images of a big room full of SC2 players, instead of the low speedy clicking of keyboards and mouses, its a load of guys banging on drums. Oh good lord. | ||
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