EPTAre GOMs arbitrary rules becoming a problem? - Page 13
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Rantech
Chile525 Posts
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mrtomjones
Canada4020 Posts
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
On December 14 2011 21:11 gregnog wrote: That would be like your boss telling you to take out the trash. After you are finished taking out the garbage, he then tells you to rip up some paper and throw it on the ground just to pick it up again. He is still paying you, but it is meaningless and you both know it. I know you can say that the entertainment industry is a bit different than a real job. But a real fan should not get any enjoyment out of a fake game where neither opponent is putting in 100%. Terrible analogy. You obviously are not yet in the professional workforce. I think the OP and many of the newer fans are too young to know what it means to be professional. You're not going to be motivated to go to work everyday and won't be able to put your best effort in everyday. However, you don't just decide to show up and not work at all. | ||
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darlhet
Italy548 Posts
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Hydrox911
United Kingdom261 Posts
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Tuxedo
United States134 Posts
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Paperplane
Netherlands1823 Posts
Naniwa isn't always as professional as possible but as professionals gom should also understand that emotions run high and sometimes people don't act professional. The more professional solution would be to reclarify the rules, give naniwa a stern warning and adjust the format to make the tournament more professional. Both made a mistake here, but as professionals maybe they can give naniwa a second chance. The subjective rules were not very clear. As a professional you cannot retro-actively punish someone. | ||
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Flonomenalz
Nigeria3519 Posts
On December 15 2011 01:19 Paperplane wrote: What gom did is not very professional. A professional organisation should have a more professional attitude. Even if one of your players is acting unprofessionally, you should be the better man by acting more professional than him. Untrue. In every sport players get punished regardless of it being their first offense. If they had banned him from GSL forever, okay, that would be a terrible decision, but every pro knows Korean culture is extremely strict, and even if it wasn't, you're playing in the GSL against Nestea. There's probably no other pro in the world that would have done what Naniwa did there, not even IdrA (regardless of his opinion on the subject, he wouldn't have done it). He'll learn from his mistake, and if he's good enough he'll make it back into Code S and prove GOM wrong for banning him originally. | ||
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JL_GG
Canada249 Posts
so much for professionalism PS: this is how he played against nestea in a televised game and this is during the game ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ispUu.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/hh91J.png) | ||
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KoBlades
Austria248 Posts
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perestain
Germany308 Posts
On December 15 2011 01:53 JL_GG wrote: just look at him so much for professionalism PS: this is how he played against nestea in a televised game and this is during the game Nice and consequent way to highlight how little sense such a showmatch makes from a competitive standpoint. People who want to see fake competition should go watch wrestling. | ||
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iky43210
United States2099 Posts
On December 15 2011 02:24 perestain wrote: Nice and consequent way to highlight how little sense such a showmatch makes from a competitive standpoint. People who want to see fake competition should go watch wrestling. you're implying fake competition is acceptable, it is not. Just that being blatantly obvious about it is not being "honest", its admitting you're match fixing | ||
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Denzil
United Kingdom4193 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:13 baoluvboa wrote: If a Korean did it, he would be finished. This is true, there would be so much more of a shit storm say Clide did this after going 0-3 in his group. One where he'd probably be forced to make a statement saying he's taking a break from pro gaming. Also what is this fake competition crap everyones on about? The initial competition is between 2 players fighting to see who is better, the overall picture is the group standings. When you play anyone you should be trying to win regardless. | ||
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Master_Blaster
United Kingdom269 Posts
On December 15 2011 03:48 Denzil wrote: This is true, there would be so much more of a shit storm say Clide did this after going 0-3 in his group. One where he'd probably be forced to make a statement saying he's taking a break from pro gaming. Why should we care that a Korean would get sacrificed for doing this? It's their culture. Naniwa sees StarCraft as a profession not a religion. Why are they forcing their view on the player? | ||
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PanN
United States2828 Posts
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nkulu
United States242 Posts
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TedJustice
Canada1324 Posts
They could "invite" them in which they pay for their flight, and that would be good enough (since paying for your own flight and then losing in a qualifier would kind of suck.) | ||
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jinixxx123
543 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:17 red4ce wrote: What GOM giveth, so too GOM shall taketh away. Coca and Rain lost their code S spots for 'unprofessional behavior' so it's not like we didn't know the rule didn't exist. dont be insulting rain, as rain was never involved in such incident. Rain left under his own will to play in foreign tournaments and live with his father in new york. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On December 15 2011 02:27 iky43210 wrote: you're implying fake competition is acceptable, it is not. Just that being blatantly obvious about it is not being "honest", its admitting you're match fixing Apparently someone doesn't like wrestling! Do you honestly think it's better to come out and not give it your all? It's just as dishonest man. I don't want to watch shit that doesn't matter. It's still being fake and all your doing is providing lip service. That is match fixing as well because you aren't fucking trying to win. Walking away from a match is just as bad. Professional athletes at least show up to the arena, but it doesn't mean they are going to give it their all for whatever issue they have. Professional athletes don't even act professional all the time. People know wrestling is fake beforehand. It's nothing more than men in tights in a soap opera and the fans buy into it. It's not a competitive sport. It has attributes that require athletics, but it isn't competitive. The competition in wrestling is, who can create the most buzz and put on a good match/show. That's the difference between getting pushed and staying on the mid-bottom card. | ||
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Denzil
United Kingdom4193 Posts
On December 15 2011 03:51 Master_Blaster wrote: Why should we care that a Korean would get sacrificed for doing this? It's their culture. Naniwa sees StarCraft as a profession not a religion. Why are they forcing their view on the player? Why's Naniwa in Korea if he's not going to respect their culture? | ||
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