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On December 14 2011 08:21 MrDudeMan wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 07:59 Darksoldierr wrote:
Well its funny how ppl talking about esports going mainstream but defending naniwa and co ( stephano, etc ) at the same time.
If a basketball team, football team or any single player sport / team sports team gives up in the front of audience, puts its hand into the air and says "Well fuck it, i just lose from now on every game till the next season."
I wonder how many would go out to watch them once again. The difference is those guys get payed disgusting amounts of money to do that, and yet still it happens from time to time. I think the last one I saw was an Atlanta hawks play off game, where they knew they were going to lose so they literally just started fucking around. Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 08:21 sechkie wrote:
Some of you guys aren't understanding what it means to have respect, whether you got cheesed or you got beat in a long drawn out macro game, you're strategy and execution was still inferior to your opponent and you still respect your opponent with a gg (atleast in live tournaments). You respect your opponent, the company, and represent your team/sponsors for sending you there.
Boxer gets a lot of hate from a lot of (especially newer) players because most of his strategies are cheese. But Boxer is beloved, not only because he basically created a market for professional starcraft but also because he plays for the fans, he shows games and strategies that can not only win, but also make exciting games for fans (see nuke rush against nalra).
This is what makes people like Boxer a PROFESSIONAL gamer, not only someone who plays the game for money, but someone who understands their job. They are entertainers, they play a game to showcase to us (fans) and paid for by sponsors (who are selling products to us fans). For all of his bad manners and bad boy persona during shows, ladder, and a lot of balance whine; Idra has shown that he understands the respect he must give to the sponsors and organizers.
Naniwa has shown time and time again that he is immature and rash. Nani should be held responsible to uphold the respect of the people that allow for him to compete in the tournament. Naniwa must learn what it means to be a progamer, it is not to just win but to uphold the respect of his peers because his play was no better than match fixing. Care to point out "time and time again"? Because other then misinformation spread around MLG about his words to Nestea, I can't really think of anything else. Also, its not like he just killed his own nexus and left, or just refused to play the game, he did try to win. Where exactly do you draw the line on acceptable strategies, and non acceptable strategies? Its funny how the teams weren't in an outrage when BitbyBit SCV all inned almost every single game he played.
How about his past as meatyowlegs? He got banned from some european competition for accruing negative points? His no gg leave at gsl (even idra hasn't done that) And it's not the fact that bitbybit scv allined, he won with his scv allins it was a valid albeit cheesy strat. Naniwa threw the game. If you think doing a 7 probe rush is trying to win the game you are delusional and are probably the guy trying to get 3k wins with worker rushes.
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I'm sympathetic to Naniwa. I understand that he was frustrated and it seemed like a waste to play NesTea, especially knowing that he would have to stay there longer to watch Polt, MMA, and Leenock have a play-offs.
That said, he's a pro-gamer and he was representing himself as a champion, as a competitor, as a foreigner, as a European, as a Swede, etc. People paid money to watch him, sponsors paid money to put him there and provide the venue, and the other players were there representing themselves also as champions and competitors. It was disrespectful at the very least to not play, even half-heartedly and bad.
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On December 14 2011 09:04 RowdierBob wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 08:58 MichaelDonovan wrote:On December 13 2011 22:46 Zalithian wrote:On December 13 2011 22:46 robih wrote:
its just pathetic how they make a big deal out of nothing It's just pathetic that people like Naniwa still can't show respect for others. It's not his responsibility to show respect to his fans. The point of being a progamer is not to impress your fans. It is to win tournaments. He he tells all of his fans to fuck off and stop watching him, that's fine too. It's not his responsibility to entertain people. That's absolute crap. He makes his living as a progamer because of the fan interest and support. Without that there would be no sponsorship, no money, no progaming. Progamers have a responsibility to be just that: professional. Disrespecting competitions by pulling the crap he did is completely the opposite of professionalism and a slap in the face for fans and sponsors who provide the support for guys like Naniwa to be a progamer. Naniwa is a good player, be he's incredibly weak mentally. Someone needs to pull him aside, give him a kick up the arse and remind him of his responsibilites as a progamer if he wants to keep making money off this game.
While I respect your opinion, I must disagree.
I don't feel a progamer has any responsibility beyond following contractual obligations to those who provide their ability to be called a professional - that is, those who pay them. To say that he is required to act in a way you (and some others) deem professional seems a bit of a stretch, as it is not you and others who make him a professional - it is the company and organizations that pay him. Being paid to play is what qualifies you as a professional in my mind, not whether or not every fan agrees with your actions. Granted, if you and every other fan pull support from Naniwa and his team does not renew his contract, he could no longer be a professional gamer. That's a potential long-term consequence of his actions, but I don't feel that makes him obligated to act in a certain manner at all times.
I believe that in life, you often earn what you end up with. While I personally would not have done what Naniwa did, I don't feel it's right to say he's obligated to do anything for you or any other fans. Instead, he must only fulfill contractual obligations, and beyond that he is free to do as he wishes. There are no more obligations that classify him as a professional gamer.
All things considered, while I would not be the one to repeat his actions, what I think he did is funny.
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i'mgoing to offer my simplistic opinion on the one naniwa game i watched (which is the very same one). naniwa 4-gates, 2-gates, 1 gates, cannon rushes, what have you in that situation:
-it is some something worse than half-assed---people in the studio, watching at home, and cheering on the main sidelines feel that his professionalism is gone. why would you do such a thing? play like a champ, and play like your life and the spirit of your fans were at stake. what he provided instead was:
-a game that was surprising, full of laughs, and probably meant to be a jest at how badly he felt about his play. a fairly 'artistic' approach at communicating his frustration, feel for having lost, and his style of emotion.
if you don't take the time to anaylze the player themselves, or understand who they are or how they come to practice, then i don't think it is likely for you to help him directly as a player, even if that is part of your job description. during broodwar days and matches, a player was judged by the foreigner community as 'bland', or 'mediocre' and by their results.
what they brought to the tabe was nearly unimportant until the game become larger and larger. i'm sure many people wre wndering why they saw nestea listed as KTF's captain, or rather many of the other captain picks as well.
you have players who expand their influence by more than just results. Mantoss is aesthetically just that. Hiya is the goldfish terran who did pretty well back in his day----but no, they are more than that.
and there are players who practice to have more than just results.
it's evident that naniwa is playing because it makes him happy as it makes his fans happy, one in the same. if you can't seriously notice that, i don't know. maybe something is blinding you a bit, or maybe something is blinding me, and i shoudl be a fan that concentrates onthe most standard way of being professional and giving back to the fans.
we have feelings. they have feelings. feelings are also conveyable, even through an online game.
i felt it was clever that naniwa did that. it was refreshing, almost poetic in the same meaning of the word---at the same time that it was all out of human emotion.
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On December 14 2011 09:16 StarStruck wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 09:13 RowdierBob wrote:On December 14 2011 09:07 StarStruck wrote:
Bob he owes you nothing.
Don't like him; don't watch.
Don't give him your time. Right now your on his time considering this is a thread about him. ._.
This has the opposite effect. People fork out money to watch him play games. Proper games. He DOES owe his fans something. If he wants to act like a princess, then fine, give the money back and leave the scene. If you're going to accept money from sponsors and fans to play SC2 then you do owe people something. I've already said that needs to be said. I'm not going to continue to repeat myself, but know this. Just because you bought a ticket to watch your team play doesn't mean everyone's going to come out and play. You have every right to boo the product you see; however anything else is over-excessive.
I understand your point, but I think if you're going to be a professional gamer, you owe the fans and sponsors more than the bare-ass minimum just because you can't be bothered.
Naniwa needs to stop acting life a self-entitled brat and show a bit more respect to those who pay his way as a pro.
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On December 14 2011 09:19 AssasaiN wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 09:04 RowdierBob wrote:On December 14 2011 08:58 MichaelDonovan wrote:On December 13 2011 22:46 Zalithian wrote:On December 13 2011 22:46 robih wrote:
its just pathetic how they make a big deal out of nothing It's just pathetic that people like Naniwa still can't show respect for others. It's not his responsibility to show respect to his fans. The point of being a progamer is not to impress your fans. It is to win tournaments. He he tells all of his fans to fuck off and stop watching him, that's fine too. It's not his responsibility to entertain people. That's absolute crap. He makes his living as a progamer because of the fan interest and support. Without that there would be no sponsorship, no money, no progaming. Progamers have a responsibility to be just that: professional. Disrespecting competitions by pulling the crap he did is completely the opposite of professionalism and a slap in the face for fans and sponsors who provide the support for guys like Naniwa to be a progamer. Naniwa is a good player, be he's incredibly weak mentally. Someone needs to pull him aside, give him a kick up the arse and remind him of his responsibilites as a progamer if he wants to keep making money off this game. While I respect your opinion, I must disagree. I don't feel a progamer has any responsibility beyond following contractual obligations to those who provide their ability to be called a professional - that is, those who pay them. To say that he is required to act in a way you (and some others) deem professional seems a bit of a stretch, as it is not you and others who make him a professional - it is the company and organizations that pay him. Being paid to play is what qualifies you as a professional in my mind, not whether or not every fan agrees with your actions. Granted, if you and every other fan pull support from Naniwa and his team does not renew his contract, he could no longer be a professional gamer. That's a potential long-term consequence of his actions, but I don't feel that makes him obligated to act in a certain manner at all times. I believe that in life, you often earn what you end up with. While I personally would not have done what Naniwa did, I don't feel it's right to say he's obligated to do anything for you or any other fans. Instead, he must only fulfill contractual obligations, and beyond that he is free to do as he wishes. There are no more obligations that classify him as a professional gamer. All things considered, while I would not be the one to repeat his actions, what I think he did is funny.
So you are saying he shouldn't be obligated to do the things he agrees to do when he enters a tournament?
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On December 14 2011 08:45 sitromit wrote:
What players like Naniwa don't understand is that that game did mean something. It meant his overall record has one more loss, it meant that he finished Blizzard Cup without a single win. If he had any amount of self-respect as a competitor, that would be reason enough to try his hardest to win.
He's a cry baby with an inflated ego who thought he could win the tournament and when things didn't go his way, wanted to take his marbles and go home. By throwing the last game, he tried to make it so to everyone, it wouldn't look like he lost 0-4. Like if he played straight, he could have won, but just didn't feel like it. It was a cowardly move, and also denied another player his rematch, and made his only win that day illegitimate.
I agree with this. Naniwa didn't just deny his fans a game, he denied Nestea's fans a game and denied Nestea himself a game. It's more than about the tournament format being stupid and there being nothing on the line, its about respecting your opponent and putting on a show for fans who like to watch you play. I seriously hope he's not just playing SC2 to win money and only plays his best when money is on the line. If he was confident he could have beaten Nestea, why not just play the game, show some self-respect and give his fans something to cheer about and give himself a reason to feel good? The fact that he ducked out says that his mental state was such that he probably would have lost, yet he denied Nestea the chance to earn a legitimate win. What's upsetting is that Naniwa's reason for doing this was simply because there was no reason to play. Is being invited to a largely televised tournament not enough reason to play?
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what? who cares if he surrendered?
theres no point in playing pointless matches if the players playing them aren't even motivated to do so.
I feel that what he did was completely justified, and people should really stop giving him shit
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Mad koreans are mad. Jesus, what's the point of all this drama? Nani is a shamless, disrespectful guy? Why all this lynching going on? Ok, lets ban Nani from participating in any tournament. Happy? I dont think so. How the heck people should feel after intent such things? Humanity...
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On December 14 2011 09:19 AssasaiN wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 09:04 RowdierBob wrote:On December 14 2011 08:58 MichaelDonovan wrote:On December 13 2011 22:46 Zalithian wrote:On December 13 2011 22:46 robih wrote:
its just pathetic how they make a big deal out of nothing It's just pathetic that people like Naniwa still can't show respect for others. It's not his responsibility to show respect to his fans. The point of being a progamer is not to impress your fans. It is to win tournaments. He he tells all of his fans to fuck off and stop watching him, that's fine too. It's not his responsibility to entertain people. That's absolute crap. He makes his living as a progamer because of the fan interest and support. Without that there would be no sponsorship, no money, no progaming. Progamers have a responsibility to be just that: professional. Disrespecting competitions by pulling the crap he did is completely the opposite of professionalism and a slap in the face for fans and sponsors who provide the support for guys like Naniwa to be a progamer. Naniwa is a good player, be he's incredibly weak mentally. Someone needs to pull him aside, give him a kick up the arse and remind him of his responsibilites as a progamer if he wants to keep making money off this game. While I respect your opinion, I must disagree. I don't feel a progamer has any responsibility beyond following contractual obligations to those who provide their ability to be called a professional - that is, those who pay them. To say that he is required to act in a way you (and some others) deem professional seems a bit of a stretch, as it is not you and others who make him a professional - it is the company and organizations that pay him. Being paid to play is what qualifies you as a professional in my mind, not whether or not every fan agrees with your actions. Granted, if you and every other fan pull support from Naniwa and his team does not renew his contract, he could no longer be a professional gamer. That's a potential long-term consequence of his actions, but I don't feel that makes him obligated to act in a certain manner at all times. I believe that in life, you often earn what you end up with. While I personally would not have done what Naniwa did, I don't feel it's right to say he's obligated to do anything for you or any other fans. Instead, he must only fulfill contractual obligations, and beyond that he is free to do as he wishes. There are no more obligations that classify him as a professional gamer. All things considered, while I would not be the one to repeat his actions, what I think he did is funny.
If this is all we're expected to get from our SC2 progamers then it's a pretty sad state of affairs.
But I understand your point.
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On December 14 2011 09:22 Femari wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 09:19 AssasaiN wrote:On December 14 2011 09:04 RowdierBob wrote:On December 14 2011 08:58 MichaelDonovan wrote:On December 13 2011 22:46 Zalithian wrote:On December 13 2011 22:46 robih wrote:
its just pathetic how they make a big deal out of nothing It's just pathetic that people like Naniwa still can't show respect for others. It's not his responsibility to show respect to his fans. The point of being a progamer is not to impress your fans. It is to win tournaments. He he tells all of his fans to fuck off and stop watching him, that's fine too. It's not his responsibility to entertain people. That's absolute crap. He makes his living as a progamer because of the fan interest and support. Without that there would be no sponsorship, no money, no progaming. Progamers have a responsibility to be just that: professional. Disrespecting competitions by pulling the crap he did is completely the opposite of professionalism and a slap in the face for fans and sponsors who provide the support for guys like Naniwa to be a progamer. Naniwa is a good player, be he's incredibly weak mentally. Someone needs to pull him aside, give him a kick up the arse and remind him of his responsibilites as a progamer if he wants to keep making money off this game. While I respect your opinion, I must disagree. I don't feel a progamer has any responsibility beyond following contractual obligations to those who provide their ability to be called a professional - that is, those who pay them. To say that he is required to act in a way you (and some others) deem professional seems a bit of a stretch, as it is not you and others who make him a professional - it is the company and organizations that pay him. Being paid to play is what qualifies you as a professional in my mind, not whether or not every fan agrees with your actions. Granted, if you and every other fan pull support from Naniwa and his team does not renew his contract, he could no longer be a professional gamer. That's a potential long-term consequence of his actions, but I don't feel that makes him obligated to act in a certain manner at all times. I believe that in life, you often earn what you end up with. While I personally would not have done what Naniwa did, I don't feel it's right to say he's obligated to do anything for you or any other fans. Instead, he must only fulfill contractual obligations, and beyond that he is free to do as he wishes. There are no more obligations that classify him as a professional gamer. All things considered, while I would not be the one to repeat his actions, what I think he did is funny. So you are saying he shouldn't be obligated to do the things he agrees to do when he enters a tournament?
Was he contractually obligated by the tournament to play out the game to the best of his ability? If so, then he should have done so. I do not know if he was contracted in such a way.
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You are given a "right" to be a COMEPETITOR, only when you accept to be a ENTERTAINER. Sponsers/companies have no reason to support some random dude that is just good at sc2 to compete in their tournement. By earning that oppurtunity to win the prize pool, you are agreeing to promote whatever that is giving you the oppurtunity to win the prize. Companies are not a charity group who just hand out prizes to gifted gamers. Players are hired/allowed to play in various tournements to please the viewers/fans so that the sponsors/company will end up with profit in the end. Naniwa is clearly empty in the basics.
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I don't get it. The blame lies on Gom for making a terrible format for a tournament. Naniwa is a competitor. He's not some jester who is paid to entertain the masses.
Once again I'm utterly confused by Korean culture...
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I am enjoying all the self-righteous preachers who have an arbitrary code of computer game ethics in their minds that everyone else should live by.
Naniwa doesn't owe YOU anything.
It's pretty narcissistic to think that he owes you, or Blizzard, or GSL, or anyone else a certain STYLE of game, or any game at all, for that matter. There is no rule, unwritten or otherwise, that says he must play for your enjoyment for free, and especially not it a certain way.
Naniwa, don't you know that there are thousands of arrogant teenagers all over the world whose lives are now ruined because you won't work for free?
Boy, I bet he feels bad.
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On December 14 2011 09:23 RowdierBob wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 09:19 AssasaiN wrote:On December 14 2011 09:04 RowdierBob wrote:On December 14 2011 08:58 MichaelDonovan wrote:On December 13 2011 22:46 Zalithian wrote:On December 13 2011 22:46 robih wrote:
its just pathetic how they make a big deal out of nothing It's just pathetic that people like Naniwa still can't show respect for others. It's not his responsibility to show respect to his fans. The point of being a progamer is not to impress your fans. It is to win tournaments. He he tells all of his fans to fuck off and stop watching him, that's fine too. It's not his responsibility to entertain people. That's absolute crap. He makes his living as a progamer because of the fan interest and support. Without that there would be no sponsorship, no money, no progaming. Progamers have a responsibility to be just that: professional. Disrespecting competitions by pulling the crap he did is completely the opposite of professionalism and a slap in the face for fans and sponsors who provide the support for guys like Naniwa to be a progamer. Naniwa is a good player, be he's incredibly weak mentally. Someone needs to pull him aside, give him a kick up the arse and remind him of his responsibilites as a progamer if he wants to keep making money off this game. While I respect your opinion, I must disagree. I don't feel a progamer has any responsibility beyond following contractual obligations to those who provide their ability to be called a professional - that is, those who pay them. To say that he is required to act in a way you (and some others) deem professional seems a bit of a stretch, as it is not you and others who make him a professional - it is the company and organizations that pay him. Being paid to play is what qualifies you as a professional in my mind, not whether or not every fan agrees with your actions. Granted, if you and every other fan pull support from Naniwa and his team does not renew his contract, he could no longer be a professional gamer. That's a potential long-term consequence of his actions, but I don't feel that makes him obligated to act in a certain manner at all times. I believe that in life, you often earn what you end up with. While I personally would not have done what Naniwa did, I don't feel it's right to say he's obligated to do anything for you or any other fans. Instead, he must only fulfill contractual obligations, and beyond that he is free to do as he wishes. There are no more obligations that classify him as a professional gamer. All things considered, while I would not be the one to repeat his actions, what I think he did is funny. If this is all we're expected to get from our SC2 progamers then it's a pretty sad state of affairs. But I understand your point.
I agree. I'd rather have seen him play it out, even though I think it's pretty funny. In my mind, I believe he'll get the consequences of his actions (from this game with Nestea to other missteps with the community), so it's not something I worry about too much.
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What naniwa did is a slap in the face to all the fans/officials/players/coaches who grew GSL to what it is today. He literally spat in GSL's face and for that I hope GSL takes away his code S spot. If he wants to compete in GSL, have him get through the code A qualifier first.
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On December 14 2011 09:24 Papulatus wrote:
I don't get it. The blame lies on Gom for making a terrible format for a tournament. This is not Naniwa's fault at all.
Once again I'm utterly confused by Korean culture...
So your saying Gom is to blame for Naniwa slecting 6 Probes and A-moving across the map. LOL
Naniwa looked like a 6 year old who didn't get his way while sitting in the booth and acted like one when the game started. Nestea was in the EXACT same boat as Naniwa and do you know what he did? Played. He looked shaken but still was gonna play.
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On December 14 2011 09:19 AssasaiN wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 09:04 RowdierBob wrote:On December 14 2011 08:58 MichaelDonovan wrote:On December 13 2011 22:46 Zalithian wrote:On December 13 2011 22:46 robih wrote:
its just pathetic how they make a big deal out of nothing It's just pathetic that people like Naniwa still can't show respect for others. It's not his responsibility to show respect to his fans. The point of being a progamer is not to impress your fans. It is to win tournaments. He he tells all of his fans to fuck off and stop watching him, that's fine too. It's not his responsibility to entertain people. That's absolute crap. He makes his living as a progamer because of the fan interest and support. Without that there would be no sponsorship, no money, no progaming. Progamers have a responsibility to be just that: professional. Disrespecting competitions by pulling the crap he did is completely the opposite of professionalism and a slap in the face for fans and sponsors who provide the support for guys like Naniwa to be a progamer. Naniwa is a good player, be he's incredibly weak mentally. Someone needs to pull him aside, give him a kick up the arse and remind him of his responsibilites as a progamer if he wants to keep making money off this game. While I respect your opinion, I must disagree. I don't feel a progamer has any responsibility beyond following contractual obligations to those who provide their ability to be called a professional - that is, those who pay them. To say that he is required to act in a way you (and some others) deem professional seems a bit of a stretch, as it is not you and others who make him a professional - it is the company and organizations that pay him. Being paid to play is what qualifies you as a professional in my mind, not whether or not every fan agrees with your actions. Granted, if you and every other fan pull support from Naniwa and his team does not renew his contract, he could no longer be a professional gamer. That's a potential long-term consequence of his actions, but I don't feel that makes him obligated to act in a certain manner at all times. I believe that in life, you often earn what you end up with. While I personally would not have done what Naniwa did, I don't feel it's right to say he's obligated to do anything for you or any other fans. Instead, he must only fulfill contractual obligations, and beyond that he is free to do as he wishes. There are no more obligations that classify him as a professional gamer. All things considered, while I would not be the one to repeat his actions, what I think he did is funny.
Interesting point. To further this I'll refer to regular sports (hockey, football, etc...). Imagine if a football coach everytime he made a REALLY bad play call this outcry happened. He is, like you said Contractually required to perform, call plays, motivate his players, etc. But because he makes a mistake, a bad call, a lapse in judgement, he should have to apologize to his fans, make a plea for mercy, get suspended? Of course not! The coach made a decision. Just like Shooting Guards in basketball make decisions to shoot a three, when all they needed was a two, and they miss and lose the game. Just because the outcome wasn't want you wanted, nor was the journey that got you there, the players and coaches should have to apologize?
While I don't even almost agree with what Naniwa did, he had every right to do it. He could have attacked his probes with his own probes if he wanted to. The point of an RTS is for the game to be how you make it. It's essentially an open world where players should be allowed to feel comfortable doing whatever it is they want.
Furthermore, clearly this little incident has garnered some HUGE publicit for the GSL and South Korea in general. Don't they say any publicity is good publicity? People are saying they want their subscription money back? Please. I guarantee subscriptions will go up after this. Naniwa gave the GSL some free accidental advertising by being a dick.
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Naniwa throws an inconsequential match and Korea explodes with hate.
Nestea throws a major championship in front of the largest western e-sports crowed ever (at least it looked like it) and no one cares.
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On December 14 2011 09:24 AssasaiN wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 09:22 Femari wrote:On December 14 2011 09:19 AssasaiN wrote:On December 14 2011 09:04 RowdierBob wrote:On December 14 2011 08:58 MichaelDonovan wrote:On December 13 2011 22:46 Zalithian wrote:On December 13 2011 22:46 robih wrote:
its just pathetic how they make a big deal out of nothing It's just pathetic that people like Naniwa still can't show respect for others. It's not his responsibility to show respect to his fans. The point of being a progamer is not to impress your fans. It is to win tournaments. He he tells all of his fans to fuck off and stop watching him, that's fine too. It's not his responsibility to entertain people. That's absolute crap. He makes his living as a progamer because of the fan interest and support. Without that there would be no sponsorship, no money, no progaming. Progamers have a responsibility to be just that: professional. Disrespecting competitions by pulling the crap he did is completely the opposite of professionalism and a slap in the face for fans and sponsors who provide the support for guys like Naniwa to be a progamer. Naniwa is a good player, be he's incredibly weak mentally. Someone needs to pull him aside, give him a kick up the arse and remind him of his responsibilites as a progamer if he wants to keep making money off this game. While I respect your opinion, I must disagree. I don't feel a progamer has any responsibility beyond following contractual obligations to those who provide their ability to be called a professional - that is, those who pay them. To say that he is required to act in a way you (and some others) deem professional seems a bit of a stretch, as it is not you and others who make him a professional - it is the company and organizations that pay him. Being paid to play is what qualifies you as a professional in my mind, not whether or not every fan agrees with your actions. Granted, if you and every other fan pull support from Naniwa and his team does not renew his contract, he could no longer be a professional gamer. That's a potential long-term consequence of his actions, but I don't feel that makes him obligated to act in a certain manner at all times. I believe that in life, you often earn what you end up with. While I personally would not have done what Naniwa did, I don't feel it's right to say he's obligated to do anything for you or any other fans. Instead, he must only fulfill contractual obligations, and beyond that he is free to do as he wishes. There are no more obligations that classify him as a professional gamer. All things considered, while I would not be the one to repeat his actions, what I think he did is funny. So you are saying he shouldn't be obligated to do the things he agrees to do when he enters a tournament? Was he contractually obligated by the tournament to play out the game to the best of his ability? If so, then he should have done so. I do not know if he was contracted in such a way.
He agreed to play all the games. I highly doubt that he did not have to sign a contract stating he agreed to the rules of the tournament. If he says he's going to play all the games he should play all the games. He has a job to play the games. He agreed to play the games, more than likely under contract for that tournament to do so, and he didn't.
Is that not being unprofessional? Not doing his job?
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