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NaNiwa speaks out on CompLexity / Quantic move - Page 8

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zanga
Profile Joined September 2011
659 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 01:54:10
December 10 2011 01:49 GMT
#141
Thank you to StarTale, UpCloseGamers, JBanks for the interview!
I like Naniwas honesty and his determination and mind goals are unique.

NaNiwa - The Dragonslayer with the eye of the tiger! FIGHTINGGGGGGGGGGG !!!!

I cannot wait for Blizzard Cup, even if it does not go awesome for him I know that he will be back stronger than ever.
I cannot wait for his debut in Code S !!

I still remember his tweet (saying more or less the following) "Fuck my life, I will train harder than ever" :D, so awesome.

(:
Provocateur
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1665 Posts
December 10 2011 01:50 GMT
#142
Really good interview, cleared up a lot of stuff and shut down some assumptions that could easily have been made. Keep on praccing and ripping up dem tournies. Nani hwaiting! We'll keep on rooting for ya
GiggleFairy
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia331 Posts
December 10 2011 01:50 GMT
#143
Really good interview. Clears a lot of stuff up. And it appears that naniwa is really trying to clean up his image a bit, he had really good answers to all the questions.

Also, I never noticed Naniwa has a tattoo O.o
blackone
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1314 Posts
December 10 2011 01:52 GMT
#144
How does this interview clear anything up? If anything it raises more questions because it's contradicting everything col has stated.
sebusca
Profile Joined November 2010
United States72 Posts
December 10 2011 01:54 GMT
#145
On December 10 2011 09:10 Eee wrote:
I think the community makes him look more bm than he actually is, and also some well known people in the community are making him look bad (eg. The retarded jokes on SOTG that has been going on the 4 latest shows).
Loved naniwas casting yesterday, such a funny guy :D
Thanks for doing a shit ton of esports coverage jbanks :D


Being from Sweden clearly isn't biasing you at all.
mrafaeldie12
Profile Joined July 2011
Brazil537 Posts
December 10 2011 01:54 GMT
#146
I agree with naniwa,kinda fucked up that the runner up of MLG gets less/same attention to a guy that gets 5k stream viewers.
"..it all comes thumbling down thumbling down thumblin down"
emecee
Profile Joined September 2010
United States222 Posts
December 10 2011 01:54 GMT
#147
On December 10 2011 10:52 blackone wrote:
How does this interview clear anything up? If anything it raises more questions because it's contradicting everything col has stated.

because the majority of the people posting here has a blind love for naniwa and trusts everything he says.
Full.tilt
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom1709 Posts
December 10 2011 01:57 GMT
#148
On December 10 2011 10:54 emecee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 10:52 blackone wrote:
How does this interview clear anything up? If anything it raises more questions because it's contradicting everything col has stated.

because the majority of the people posting here has a blind love for naniwa and trusts everything he says.


and 2 haters trying to start drama and interrupt the love in.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 10 2011 01:57 GMT
#149
On December 10 2011 10:48 emecee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 10:45 GreEny K wrote:
On December 10 2011 10:42 emecee wrote:
naniwa said he instigated the move from complexity to quantic, but jason lake (owner of complexity) said on reddit
that We're sending TriMaster to Korea any week now and Johan is well aware of that. I'm not going to get into a public argument and wish him the very best but this was a one way decision. His contract was being sold (to Quantic or someone else) whether he approved or not.
Someone is not telling the truth and i'm gonna trust the owner of complexity rather than someone who has the reputation of being a douche bag.


Then why did they pick him up less than a month ago? It doesn't make sense to pick someone up and then sell him right away unless that person didn't want to be there. He hasn't changed in the past month, he is the same person, so they knew what they were getting into.

They most likely picked him up because they were confident that he would behave himself in public and be satisfied with the mvp house. which did not happen.


behave in public?

you kidding?

no, no and no.

They had a difference of opinion and from the sound of it they were getting ready to renegotiate a new term. Nani's got a lot of results in the last few months, so it's the perfect timing for him. Sounds like a money issue to me and approach to business.

Speculation, speculation. So he wasn't happy in the MVP house.

Big whoop.

You cannot use one approach when it comes to managing players. I have no problem with Jason Lake. I've seen his previous interviews and he's been around for quite some time. Good guy, unfortunately this business endeavor didn't work out for the two parties. It is what it is.

Not much else to say.
emecee
Profile Joined September 2010
United States222 Posts
December 10 2011 02:03 GMT
#150
On December 10 2011 10:57 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 10:48 emecee wrote:
On December 10 2011 10:45 GreEny K wrote:
On December 10 2011 10:42 emecee wrote:
naniwa said he instigated the move from complexity to quantic, but jason lake (owner of complexity) said on reddit
that We're sending TriMaster to Korea any week now and Johan is well aware of that. I'm not going to get into a public argument and wish him the very best but this was a one way decision. His contract was being sold (to Quantic or someone else) whether he approved or not.
Someone is not telling the truth and i'm gonna trust the owner of complexity rather than someone who has the reputation of being a douche bag.


Then why did they pick him up less than a month ago? It doesn't make sense to pick someone up and then sell him right away unless that person didn't want to be there. He hasn't changed in the past month, he is the same person, so they knew what they were getting into.

They most likely picked him up because they were confident that he would behave himself in public and be satisfied with the mvp house. which did not happen.


behave in public?

you kidding?

no, no and no.

They had a difference of opinion and from the sound of it they were getting ready to renegotiate a new term. Nani's got a lot of results in the last few months, so it's the perfect timing for him. Sounds like a money issue to me and approach to business.

Speculation, speculation. So he wasn't happy in the MVP house.

Big whoop.

You cannot use one approach when it comes to managing players. I have no problem with Jason Lake. I've seen his previous interviews and he's been around for quite some time. Good guy, unfortunately this business endeavor didn't work out for the two parties. It is what it is.

Not much else to say.

i don't understand what you tried to say here. difference in opinion in what? do no think complexity did not inform of their plans on korean and standards of behaving in public when they acquired Naniwa? Complexity sold their contract, which means that Naniwa's salary was decided before he entered the team. So there should be no money issues to speak of.
flagg
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden123 Posts
December 10 2011 02:07 GMT
#151
Way to go JBanKs , Upclosegamers fighting!

Thanks Nani, we biased swedes loves you too
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
December 10 2011 02:07 GMT
#152
On December 10 2011 10:54 sebusca wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 09:10 Eee wrote:
I think the community makes him look more bm than he actually is, and also some well known people in the community are making him look bad (eg. The retarded jokes on SOTG that has been going on the 4 latest shows).
Loved naniwas casting yesterday, such a funny guy :D
Thanks for doing a shit ton of esports coverage jbanks :D


Being from Sweden clearly isn't biasing you at all.
Being from the US clearly means you are biased in favour of coL.

That's how ridiculous your "attack" is. Stop being a tool, man.

Personally I wish NaNi the best of luck. Dunno, but coL just seems really bad guy like in this scenario. Why pick up a guy who hasn't changed in the past month? They knew what they were getting into and likely fear bad PR which is why they must go to Reddit and dump posts. I won't buy the "attitude" thing, really. If it was NaNi's fault there'd be something to it, or at least they'd mention something instead of going "HE DID BAD SHIT. BUT I RESPECT HIM, SO I WILL NOT SAY ANYTHING MORE". Sad part is a ton of people fall for it..:/
#freeshauni
Hundisilm
Profile Joined July 2011
Estonia99 Posts
December 10 2011 02:08 GMT
#153
On December 10 2011 10:49 babylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 10:46 Hundisilm wrote:
I wonder how mr. Lake was planning on selling him to a team where he did not want to go. That is why would a team want to buy a contract of a player who doesn't want to play for them?

I don't think Nani cares what team he's on so long as he can stay in Korea and train, and so long as that team continues to send him to tourneys.


I was referring to the Lake quote where he said (I hope the quote was accurate ) that Naniwa didn't actually have a choice in the matter. It seems a bit like an empty statement to me considering Naniwa was the "product" he was selling and it seems quite clear to me that his worth to a team is very much influenced by how much he wanted to be a part of it. In the end there are not many teams that can support a player in Korea (I can't think of any realistic ones besides Quantic to be honest as FXO is apparently out).

Seems like quite empty huff-puff from Jason at this point. Sure he could've ditched him at a loss but if he says that's what he wanted to do then he would quite clearly been lying. Naniwa's opinion on the matter played quite a big role on where he ended up.

PS. The are theoretical contractual possiblities where this logic would be invalid, but they seem quite unlikely to me at the moment.
n00b3rt
Profile Joined May 2010
Bulgaria890 Posts
December 10 2011 02:10 GMT
#154
I don't get why every time there's a Nani thread, it gets derailed into hatred towards him, and always by Americans/Canadians. Plenty of them turn out to be IdrA fanboys who are actually bashing Nani for being bm (wtf). And then the Swedes who defend him are called nationalistic x_X.
P.S. You have fans from outside of Sweden who will also always support you Nani <3. Now go get top8 Code S !!!
Yeah, whatever
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 02:13:29
December 10 2011 02:13 GMT
#155
nani fighting! he'll be a champion no matter where he goes. if he thinks the st house is better for him to improve, then everything else be damned.
get rich or die mining
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Masq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1792 Posts
December 10 2011 02:14 GMT
#156
Naniwa clearly made a good decision. If living at MvP house was depressing for him, obviously thats not a good environment. No one really has any right to criticize him over it, and very few can say hes overrated when you look at his accomplishments.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45021 Posts
December 10 2011 02:15 GMT
#157
QuanTale Gaming ♥

Go Naniwa!!!
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Mioraka
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada1353 Posts
December 10 2011 02:15 GMT
#158
On December 10 2011 10:54 emecee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 10:52 blackone wrote:
How does this interview clear anything up? If anything it raises more questions because it's contradicting everything col has stated.

because the majority of the people posting here has a blind love for naniwa and trusts everything he says.


Or is it because Col didn't cite any reason for the transfer( no, those "he does not fit into our core value and future goal" kind of crap are not REAL reasons), while at the same time continuously hinting negativity on Naniwa?

Whether you believe him or not, Naniwa came out and stated all the reasons behind the transfer, and he did not shit on complexity.

You cant say that for the other side.
spessmuhreen
Profile Joined April 2011
6 Posts
December 10 2011 02:16 GMT
#159
On December 10 2011 09:20 Dexington wrote:
Naniwa beat 3 players at MLG to get second. The system let him get that far. I'd bet a lot of money if he had to go through that open bracket like Leenock did, he would have never came close to that place.

He beat Nestea in the most controversial series ever, Huk who hasn't won a PvP in ages and DRG. Then got stomped by Leenock.

I don't know why he gets so much hype. Can't wait to see his GSL performance.


You do know he beat Neastea and MVP the day before the actual MLG right? And he didnt really get "stomped" by Leenock (The second place gsl winner ::)
yeah
Hydroxyl
Profile Joined December 2011
206 Posts
December 10 2011 02:17 GMT
#160
On December 10 2011 10:42 emecee wrote:
Someone is not telling the truth and i'm gonna trust the owner of complexity rather than someone who has the reputation of being a douche bag.


Sadly, as we all have seen for a long time, one doesn't exclude the other.
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