• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 08:48
CEST 14:48
KST 21:48
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy17ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20
Community News
Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple6Aligulac acquired by REPLAYMAN.com/Stego Research8Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises3Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool51Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win4
StarCraft 2
General
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2) Aligulac acquired by REPLAYMAN.com/Stego Research Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple
Tourneys
RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) WardiTV Mondays World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open
Strategy
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Frigid Storage Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
Mutation # 519 Inner Power The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone Mutation # 517 Distant Threat
Brood War
General
Klaucher discontinued / in-game color settings BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Pros React To: JaeDong vs Queen [ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash Gypsy to Korea
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro24 Group E [ASL21] Ro24 Group F Azhi's Colosseum - Foreign KCM
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Darkest Dungeon
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread NASA and the Private Sector Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
China Uses Video Games to Sh…
TrAiDoS
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Electronics
mantequilla
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 17993 users

NaNiwa speaks out on CompLexity / Quantic move - Page 8

Forum Index > SC2 General
760 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 6 7 8 9 10 39 Next All
zanga
Profile Joined September 2011
659 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 01:54:10
December 10 2011 01:49 GMT
#141
Thank you to StarTale, UpCloseGamers, JBanks for the interview!
I like Naniwas honesty and his determination and mind goals are unique.

NaNiwa - The Dragonslayer with the eye of the tiger! FIGHTINGGGGGGGGGGG !!!!

I cannot wait for Blizzard Cup, even if it does not go awesome for him I know that he will be back stronger than ever.
I cannot wait for his debut in Code S !!

I still remember his tweet (saying more or less the following) "Fuck my life, I will train harder than ever" :D, so awesome.

(:
Provocateur
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1665 Posts
December 10 2011 01:50 GMT
#142
Really good interview, cleared up a lot of stuff and shut down some assumptions that could easily have been made. Keep on praccing and ripping up dem tournies. Nani hwaiting! We'll keep on rooting for ya
GiggleFairy
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia331 Posts
December 10 2011 01:50 GMT
#143
Really good interview. Clears a lot of stuff up. And it appears that naniwa is really trying to clean up his image a bit, he had really good answers to all the questions.

Also, I never noticed Naniwa has a tattoo O.o
blackone
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1314 Posts
December 10 2011 01:52 GMT
#144
How does this interview clear anything up? If anything it raises more questions because it's contradicting everything col has stated.
sebusca
Profile Joined November 2010
United States72 Posts
December 10 2011 01:54 GMT
#145
On December 10 2011 09:10 Eee wrote:
I think the community makes him look more bm than he actually is, and also some well known people in the community are making him look bad (eg. The retarded jokes on SOTG that has been going on the 4 latest shows).
Loved naniwas casting yesterday, such a funny guy :D
Thanks for doing a shit ton of esports coverage jbanks :D


Being from Sweden clearly isn't biasing you at all.
mrafaeldie12
Profile Joined July 2011
Brazil537 Posts
December 10 2011 01:54 GMT
#146
I agree with naniwa,kinda fucked up that the runner up of MLG gets less/same attention to a guy that gets 5k stream viewers.
"..it all comes thumbling down thumbling down thumblin down"
emecee
Profile Joined September 2010
United States222 Posts
December 10 2011 01:54 GMT
#147
On December 10 2011 10:52 blackone wrote:
How does this interview clear anything up? If anything it raises more questions because it's contradicting everything col has stated.

because the majority of the people posting here has a blind love for naniwa and trusts everything he says.
Full.tilt
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom1709 Posts
December 10 2011 01:57 GMT
#148
On December 10 2011 10:54 emecee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 10:52 blackone wrote:
How does this interview clear anything up? If anything it raises more questions because it's contradicting everything col has stated.

because the majority of the people posting here has a blind love for naniwa and trusts everything he says.


and 2 haters trying to start drama and interrupt the love in.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 10 2011 01:57 GMT
#149
On December 10 2011 10:48 emecee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 10:45 GreEny K wrote:
On December 10 2011 10:42 emecee wrote:
naniwa said he instigated the move from complexity to quantic, but jason lake (owner of complexity) said on reddit
that We're sending TriMaster to Korea any week now and Johan is well aware of that. I'm not going to get into a public argument and wish him the very best but this was a one way decision. His contract was being sold (to Quantic or someone else) whether he approved or not.
Someone is not telling the truth and i'm gonna trust the owner of complexity rather than someone who has the reputation of being a douche bag.


Then why did they pick him up less than a month ago? It doesn't make sense to pick someone up and then sell him right away unless that person didn't want to be there. He hasn't changed in the past month, he is the same person, so they knew what they were getting into.

They most likely picked him up because they were confident that he would behave himself in public and be satisfied with the mvp house. which did not happen.


behave in public?

you kidding?

no, no and no.

They had a difference of opinion and from the sound of it they were getting ready to renegotiate a new term. Nani's got a lot of results in the last few months, so it's the perfect timing for him. Sounds like a money issue to me and approach to business.

Speculation, speculation. So he wasn't happy in the MVP house.

Big whoop.

You cannot use one approach when it comes to managing players. I have no problem with Jason Lake. I've seen his previous interviews and he's been around for quite some time. Good guy, unfortunately this business endeavor didn't work out for the two parties. It is what it is.

Not much else to say.
emecee
Profile Joined September 2010
United States222 Posts
December 10 2011 02:03 GMT
#150
On December 10 2011 10:57 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 10:48 emecee wrote:
On December 10 2011 10:45 GreEny K wrote:
On December 10 2011 10:42 emecee wrote:
naniwa said he instigated the move from complexity to quantic, but jason lake (owner of complexity) said on reddit
that We're sending TriMaster to Korea any week now and Johan is well aware of that. I'm not going to get into a public argument and wish him the very best but this was a one way decision. His contract was being sold (to Quantic or someone else) whether he approved or not.
Someone is not telling the truth and i'm gonna trust the owner of complexity rather than someone who has the reputation of being a douche bag.


Then why did they pick him up less than a month ago? It doesn't make sense to pick someone up and then sell him right away unless that person didn't want to be there. He hasn't changed in the past month, he is the same person, so they knew what they were getting into.

They most likely picked him up because they were confident that he would behave himself in public and be satisfied with the mvp house. which did not happen.


behave in public?

you kidding?

no, no and no.

They had a difference of opinion and from the sound of it they were getting ready to renegotiate a new term. Nani's got a lot of results in the last few months, so it's the perfect timing for him. Sounds like a money issue to me and approach to business.

Speculation, speculation. So he wasn't happy in the MVP house.

Big whoop.

You cannot use one approach when it comes to managing players. I have no problem with Jason Lake. I've seen his previous interviews and he's been around for quite some time. Good guy, unfortunately this business endeavor didn't work out for the two parties. It is what it is.

Not much else to say.

i don't understand what you tried to say here. difference in opinion in what? do no think complexity did not inform of their plans on korean and standards of behaving in public when they acquired Naniwa? Complexity sold their contract, which means that Naniwa's salary was decided before he entered the team. So there should be no money issues to speak of.
flagg
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden123 Posts
December 10 2011 02:07 GMT
#151
Way to go JBanKs , Upclosegamers fighting!

Thanks Nani, we biased swedes loves you too
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
December 10 2011 02:07 GMT
#152
On December 10 2011 10:54 sebusca wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 09:10 Eee wrote:
I think the community makes him look more bm than he actually is, and also some well known people in the community are making him look bad (eg. The retarded jokes on SOTG that has been going on the 4 latest shows).
Loved naniwas casting yesterday, such a funny guy :D
Thanks for doing a shit ton of esports coverage jbanks :D


Being from Sweden clearly isn't biasing you at all.
Being from the US clearly means you are biased in favour of coL.

That's how ridiculous your "attack" is. Stop being a tool, man.

Personally I wish NaNi the best of luck. Dunno, but coL just seems really bad guy like in this scenario. Why pick up a guy who hasn't changed in the past month? They knew what they were getting into and likely fear bad PR which is why they must go to Reddit and dump posts. I won't buy the "attitude" thing, really. If it was NaNi's fault there'd be something to it, or at least they'd mention something instead of going "HE DID BAD SHIT. BUT I RESPECT HIM, SO I WILL NOT SAY ANYTHING MORE". Sad part is a ton of people fall for it..:/
#freeshauni
Hundisilm
Profile Joined July 2011
Estonia99 Posts
December 10 2011 02:08 GMT
#153
On December 10 2011 10:49 babylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 10:46 Hundisilm wrote:
I wonder how mr. Lake was planning on selling him to a team where he did not want to go. That is why would a team want to buy a contract of a player who doesn't want to play for them?

I don't think Nani cares what team he's on so long as he can stay in Korea and train, and so long as that team continues to send him to tourneys.


I was referring to the Lake quote where he said (I hope the quote was accurate ) that Naniwa didn't actually have a choice in the matter. It seems a bit like an empty statement to me considering Naniwa was the "product" he was selling and it seems quite clear to me that his worth to a team is very much influenced by how much he wanted to be a part of it. In the end there are not many teams that can support a player in Korea (I can't think of any realistic ones besides Quantic to be honest as FXO is apparently out).

Seems like quite empty huff-puff from Jason at this point. Sure he could've ditched him at a loss but if he says that's what he wanted to do then he would quite clearly been lying. Naniwa's opinion on the matter played quite a big role on where he ended up.

PS. The are theoretical contractual possiblities where this logic would be invalid, but they seem quite unlikely to me at the moment.
n00b3rt
Profile Joined May 2010
Bulgaria890 Posts
December 10 2011 02:10 GMT
#154
I don't get why every time there's a Nani thread, it gets derailed into hatred towards him, and always by Americans/Canadians. Plenty of them turn out to be IdrA fanboys who are actually bashing Nani for being bm (wtf). And then the Swedes who defend him are called nationalistic x_X.
P.S. You have fans from outside of Sweden who will also always support you Nani <3. Now go get top8 Code S !!!
Yeah, whatever
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 02:13:29
December 10 2011 02:13 GMT
#155
nani fighting! he'll be a champion no matter where he goes. if he thinks the st house is better for him to improve, then everything else be damned.
get rich or die mining
TL+ Member
Masq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1792 Posts
December 10 2011 02:14 GMT
#156
Naniwa clearly made a good decision. If living at MvP house was depressing for him, obviously thats not a good environment. No one really has any right to criticize him over it, and very few can say hes overrated when you look at his accomplishments.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45435 Posts
December 10 2011 02:15 GMT
#157
QuanTale Gaming ♥

Go Naniwa!!!
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Mioraka
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada1353 Posts
December 10 2011 02:15 GMT
#158
On December 10 2011 10:54 emecee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 10:52 blackone wrote:
How does this interview clear anything up? If anything it raises more questions because it's contradicting everything col has stated.

because the majority of the people posting here has a blind love for naniwa and trusts everything he says.


Or is it because Col didn't cite any reason for the transfer( no, those "he does not fit into our core value and future goal" kind of crap are not REAL reasons), while at the same time continuously hinting negativity on Naniwa?

Whether you believe him or not, Naniwa came out and stated all the reasons behind the transfer, and he did not shit on complexity.

You cant say that for the other side.
spessmuhreen
Profile Joined April 2011
6 Posts
December 10 2011 02:16 GMT
#159
On December 10 2011 09:20 Dexington wrote:
Naniwa beat 3 players at MLG to get second. The system let him get that far. I'd bet a lot of money if he had to go through that open bracket like Leenock did, he would have never came close to that place.

He beat Nestea in the most controversial series ever, Huk who hasn't won a PvP in ages and DRG. Then got stomped by Leenock.

I don't know why he gets so much hype. Can't wait to see his GSL performance.


You do know he beat Neastea and MVP the day before the actual MLG right? And he didnt really get "stomped" by Leenock (The second place gsl winner ::)
yeah
Hydroxyl
Profile Joined December 2011
206 Posts
December 10 2011 02:17 GMT
#160
On December 10 2011 10:42 emecee wrote:
Someone is not telling the truth and i'm gonna trust the owner of complexity rather than someone who has the reputation of being a douche bag.


Sadly, as we all have seen for a long time, one doesn't exclude the other.
Prev 1 6 7 8 9 10 39 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 12m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
trigger 176
ProTech160
Hui .68
Codebar 54
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 52504
Sea 4604
Mini 1191
Soulkey 679
Soma 562
Light 548
firebathero 388
BeSt 351
Larva 260
ggaemo 241
[ Show more ]
Last 212
hero 136
Hm[arnc] 117
Hyun 104
Shuttle 99
Pusan 88
Sea.KH 77
Sharp 75
Free 68
NaDa 64
Barracks 46
sSak 42
Shinee 35
Sacsri 35
Movie 35
HiyA 30
zelot 28
sorry 26
Shine 16
GoRush 13
Noble 8
soO 8
Icarus 6
Dota 2
qojqva1584
XaKoH 890
Counter-Strike
fl0m2040
byalli916
zeus221
edward35
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor200
Other Games
singsing2584
B2W.Neo425
Beastyqt398
ArmadaUGS43
Rex41
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL9861
Other Games
BasetradeTV348
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota275
League of Legends
• Jankos1940
• Nemesis662
Upcoming Events
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1h 12m
BSL
6h 12m
Afreeca Starleague
21h 12m
Wardi Open
21h 12m
Replay Cast
1d 11h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 21h
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
[ Show More ]
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
BSL
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W1
WardiTV Winter 2026
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
ASL Season 21
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 2
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026

Upcoming

CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
RSL Revival: Season 5
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.