I wish Nani all the best! Way better to practise with a team that feels right.
I don't buy this value talk from col one bit, when jason talks to slasher how awful he felt about what happend at MLG and then end the interview with pulling his kids (not a day older than 10) on stream to scream Fuck Slasher. Double standards at best, a bunch of bull shit most probably.
They didn't agree on practise vs streaming and what a player should do within col to get rewarded. Claiming that Naniwa was sold without him wanting it must make it the biggest lucky break in history, Nani gets to go to a team that will let him practise with his friend Sase and a korean team that he fits with.
Hopefully Naniwa and col will do their own things and keep on going strong 2012.
Thanks JBanks, or should I say: JBaller? Aside from all the other cool stuff you've done. I really appreciate giving Naniwa the opportunity to represent himself well. Think it will help a lot going forward, to tone down a big chunk of irrational comments and give more voice to those that support him.
He plays brilliant Starcraft, you can just see he's something special. Such crisp and clean execution, he plays like a robot I think that is also what he aims for with practice. Not taking a win but denying a loss. Incredibly systematic and rigorous planning where even the execution and some risks involved are very clearly accounted for.
How people get divided say on these forums usually comes because something sets them up for it. They get a piece of information and that sets the wheels in motion. In time a new moment will come. Often comments are empty and instigative only serving to get a reaction. I'll try not the read the trash. Its only future is waiting to get incinerated. I'll wait till it comes back recycled and has become something I don't want to throw away. Whichever phase of the cycle you pick, at any time there will always be that ever growing pile of garbage. Don't try to clean it, let it burn.
No such thing as bad publicity? EG anyone? Surely works for them. You can try to put a leash on a player, but they will do what they want.
Many players don't share the same philosophy when it comes to etiquette. Manner or not. What I've seen from Nani in the last 4 months is no different than any other shit you would label 'BM' and even then I think many of you overdo it when it comes to such trivial shit as that.
Jason and Johan had a difference of opinion. Nothing more; nothing less.
Well aware of the transfers. The original contract is anyone's guess. For all we know it could be expiring soon. Anyway, considering Naniwa has been getting some good results lately he probably figures its time to renegotiate for more money. You do a good job at work, likewise you ask your boss for a raise! Besides that, he wanted a better work environment. Can I get a new office?
At the end of the day, it comes down to Jason's philosophy and business practice. Johan disagrees. Jason finds him hard to work with so he gets rid of the current contract.
So complexity considers a pro streamer at the same level as 2nd place at providence - the biggest non gsl tournament of the year... that seems so backwards...
On December 10 2011 11:20 Lavi wrote: So complexity considers a pro streamer at the same level as 2nd place at providence - the biggest non gsl tournament of the year... that seems so backwards...
From the statements I have read, Naniwa's story seems to be more honest than Col. I and other people tend to be getting the idea that Col slightly slanders players that don't work out for them.
It just feels more likely that a signed player on a contract would have a clause in there staying that his contract is valid for a certain amount of time unless he breaks certain rules.
Naniwa stating that he likes ST house practice better than MVP, that he is upset that Col isn't sending any Col players over and he feels secluded (Col retorts by saying they are sending Trimaster at some point - kinda weak as we have no confirmation or date on that) does not in my head constitute Naniwa breaking a contract. This is all guesswork peoples.
If he didn't break rules/clauses I really have a hard time believing that Complexity had complete control in removing Naniwa like they state. It's far more believable that Naniwa stated he wants a "bonus" for some of his recent achievements and a different practice environment and that Col could/would not produce. Ere-go it lead to a little disarray between the Team/Player. Naniwa then speaks out, talks with Quantic (like he says in UCG interview) Col decides its best to move in this direction and a deal was struck. But come on, Naniwa has no say in the decision sounds fishy doesn't it?
I guess we will have to wait and here more retorts.
On December 10 2011 11:20 Lavi wrote: So complexity considers a pro streamer at the same level as 2nd place at providence - the biggest non gsl tournament of the year... that seems so backwards...
Well this does sell better. Team's money doesn't come from nowhere and I actually understand coL for this, despite being a Nani fan
On December 10 2011 11:20 Lavi wrote: So complexity considers a pro streamer at the same level as 2nd place at providence - the biggest non gsl tournament of the year... that seems so backwards...
Naniwa wants to be a team where players are valued for accomplishments and not publicity, which is why he went to Quantic, the team that added Destiny as their first player! Nice one Naniwa! impeccable reasoning.
On December 10 2011 11:24 thedaks16 wrote: From the statements I have read, Naniwa's story seems to be more honest than Col. I and other people tend to be getting the idea that Col slightly slanders players that don't work out for them.
It just feels more likely that a signed player on a contract would have a clause in there staying that his contract is valid for a certain amount of time unless he breaks certain rules.
Naniwa stating that he likes ST house practice better than MVP, that he is upset that Col isn't sending any Col players over and he feels secluded (Col retorts by saying they are sending Trimaster at some point - kinda weak as we have no confirmation or date on that) does not in my head constitute Naniwa breaking a contract. This is all guesswork peoples.
If he didn't break rules/clauses I really have a hard time believing that Complexity had complete control in removing Naniwa like they state. It's far more believable that Naniwa stated he wants a "bonus" for some of his recent achievements and a different practice environment and that Col could/would not produce. Ere-go it lead to a little disarray between the Team/Player. Naniwa then speaks out, talks with Quantic (like he says in UCG interview) Col decides its best to move in this direction and a deal was struck. But come on, Naniwa has no say in the decision sounds fishy doesn't it?
I guess we will have to wait and here more retorts.
-Thedaks16-
How is that fishy? Players get traded all the time in sports leagues without their own permission.
On December 10 2011 11:20 Lavi wrote: So complexity considers a pro streamer at the same level as 2nd place at providence - the biggest non gsl tournament of the year... that seems so backwards...
Naniwa wants to be a team where players are valued for accomplishments and not publicity, which is why he went to Quantic, the team that added Destiny as their first player! Nice one Naniwa! impeccable reasoning.
one of the biggest reasons should be SaSe, they're like blood brothers so it's much better if Nani joins up someone who his close with..
On December 10 2011 10:42 emecee wrote: Someone is not telling the truth and i'm gonna trust the owner of complexity rather than someone who has the reputation of being a douche bag.
Sadly, as we all have seen for a long time, one doesn't exclude the other.
On December 10 2011 11:20 Lavi wrote: So complexity considers a pro streamer at the same level as 2nd place at providence - the biggest non gsl tournament of the year... that seems so backwards...
Naniwa wants to be a team where players are valued for accomplishments and not publicity, which is why he went to Quantic, the team that added Destiny as their first player! Nice one Naniwa! impeccable reasoning.
a team needs both type of players. nanis main reason to switch is probably to be in startale house and be with his bro sase. worked out for both teams. why so much hate
On December 10 2011 11:20 Lavi wrote: So complexity considers a pro streamer at the same level as 2nd place at providence - the biggest non gsl tournament of the year... that seems so backwards...
Naniwa wants to be a team where players are valued for accomplishments and not publicity, which is why he went to Quantic, the team that added Destiny as their first player! Nice one Naniwa! impeccable reasoning.
I watched the video and can only applaud Nani for deciding to make the move. Living in circumstances that make you uneasy effects your entire life, and would have affected his play sooner or later, as well as being unhappy. As Artosis says "Life is all about being happy" so good for Naniwa.
On December 10 2011 11:20 Lavi wrote: So complexity considers a pro streamer at the same level as 2nd place at providence - the biggest non gsl tournament of the year... that seems so backwards...
Naniwa wants to be a team where players are valued for accomplishments and not publicity, which is why he went to Quantic, the team that added Destiny as their first player! Nice one Naniwa! impeccable reasoning.
How more often will you repeat that bullshit? Naniwa did not say something like "i don't want to have a big streamer in my team" but he was talking about the team appreciating their players by skill, not by viewer numbers and he stated that this was not the case with col. Your reasoning is impeccable ... not naniwas.
The more i read about Nani the more i realize that he doesn't deserve the rep he is given. I wan't to take back the things i have stated about him on previous threads, he wants to get better and is frustrated with the current system, i like it. best of luck nani kick some ass as 1 of the new dragons
I find is fishy based on my hypothesis that Naniwa didn't really break his contract. If he didn't break it then a team stating it was 100% their decision whether or not the player was OK with it sounds wrong. I wrote that based on the back and forth comments from Team & the player. One says it was their decision and Naniwa says he kind of started this move. I tend to believe Naniwa's comments more.
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