EPTComplexity transfers NaNiwa to Quantic Gaming - Page 44
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Acritter
Syria7637 Posts
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lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On December 09 2011 16:54 Torte de Lini wrote: That's what I'm saying. I'm saying that knowing the source is true, we know nothing of the source. His view of "most" is circumstantial which we have none. It basically nullifies the quote by making the source anonymous. A lot of people insist that ESFI is a credible website (I don't know since I don't visit it), so chances are their sources are real and have had significant dealings with Naniwa. That doesn't mean the source's opinion is true or justified (it is, after all, just an opinion), I am just saying that the source should not be dismissed for being anonymous. It would have helped if the article had mentioned at least some background info about the source (for example, named him as an anonymous team manager, or anonymous tournament staff), certainly. | ||
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P0ckets
United States430 Posts
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HappyChris
1534 Posts
Personally im happy that Naniwa is not in complexity anymore I never understood why he would join that team. And to complexity I dont think we will see you much more in sc 2 it seems every great player you got allways leave you team. Kiwi,Stephano,Naniwa, Destiny among others there must be going something on in complexity we dont know. Im pretty convinced Complexity is going the same way as Sixjax | ||
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DarkRise
1644 Posts
On topic, I'm really surprise about this transfer. Doesn't Quantic break off with IM recently? Where is Sase and other quantic players been playing/staying in Korea? Won't TL/EG/FXO a better choice or quantic the only option he have? | ||
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Regime
Australia185 Posts
they did hint at a new signing on @#$% slasher or wateva that show was, i guess this must have been the signing they were talking about, still think Q is lacking a team roster more individual players. | ||
Shellshock
United States97274 Posts
On December 09 2011 17:34 DarkRise wrote: Now he feels what Idra has been experiencing for the past years and this should let others know how difficult it is being in that state. On topic, I'm really surprise about this transfer. Doesn't Quantic break off with IM recently? Where is Sase and other quantic players been playing/staying in Korea? apparently startale. Naniwa mentioned them and that's where Destiny is going | ||
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Elizar
Germany431 Posts
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Vamp
United Kingdom184 Posts
On December 09 2011 05:41 Canucklehead wrote: Naniwa is in a race with major to see who can play on the most teams in sc2.  lol I was thinking the same thing ^^ | ||
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Lysanias
Netherlands8351 Posts
On December 09 2011 17:34 DarkRise wrote: Now he feels what Idra has been experiencing for the past years and this should let others know how difficult it is being in that state. On topic, I'm really surprise about this transfer. Doesn't Quantic break off with IM recently? Where is Sase and other quantic players been playing/staying in Korea? Won't TL/EG/FXO a better choice or quantic the only option he have? I never got this if you stay in a country for a long period why not learn the language. | ||
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coMbs
United States50 Posts
On December 09 2011 17:30 HappyChris wrote: Never seen a more garbage and bias article from any news orginastion then the one from ESFI. Holy shit man ESFI make fox news looks nice and professional. Anyone know if the write is affiliated with complexity? Personally im happy that Naniwa is not in complexity anymore I never understood why he would join that team. And to complexity I dont think we will see you much more in sc 2 it seems every great player you got allways leave you team. Kiwi,Stephano,Naniwa, Destiny among others there must be going something on in complexity we dont know. Im pretty convinced Complexity is going the same way as Sixjax And you know all the details? You're calling an article biased with no actual knowledge of what really happened? Give me a break. We may never know what really happened, but I've followed Complexity for a long time (cs 1.6 days) and they don't put up with unprofessional players. Also, you need to do a bit of research before you bash one of the biggest and longest lasting eports brands in North America. Complexity is an upstanding organization that has done a lot for esports, and they aren't going anywhere. | ||
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dormer
United States1314 Posts
On December 09 2011 17:44 Lysanias wrote: I never got this if you stay in a country for a long period why not learn the language. Korean is completely different from any western language; it takes a lot of time and effort to learn. Assuming that they have enough time and energy when they're not practicing to study the language, it still takes quite a while to get to the point where you can develop good friendships or have meaningful conversations. Obviously learning basic Korean for daily activities is important, and if he wants to live there long-term then yeah, he should find time to study too, but that's a huge commitment of time and energy, and it takes a long time to pay off. | ||
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Theeakoz
United States1114 Posts
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HappyChris
1534 Posts
On December 09 2011 17:50 coMbs wrote: And you know all the details? You're calling an article biased with no actual knowledge of what really happened? Give me a break. We may never know what really happened, but I've followed Complexity for a long time (cs 1.6 days) and they don't put up with unprofessional players. Also, you need to do a bit of research before you bash one of the biggest and longest lasting eports brands in North America. Complexity is an upstanding organization that has done a lot for esports, and they aren't going anywhere. Im well aware about Complexity and there history. But in starcraft 2 sence they look like amateurs. They cant attract the big superstars and when they finaly does something allways happend. | ||
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Zalithian
520 Posts
On December 09 2011 17:52 dormer wrote: Korean is completely different from any western language; it takes a lot of time and effort to learn. Assuming that they have enough time and energy when they're not practicing to study the language, it still takes quite a while to get to the point where you can develop good friendships or have meaningful conversations. Obviously learning basic Korean for daily activities is important, and if he wants to live there long-term then yeah, he should find time to study too, but that's a huge commitment of time and energy, and it takes a long time to pay off. I can't speak for Korean as I have not studied it, but if it's around the difficulty of Japanese then it's not really all that difficult. I would personally consider Japanese an easy language, at least as far as speaking goes. Obviously Kanji adds on the difficulty exponentially, but not necessary for speaking. Being regularly exposed to Korean would make learning it a lot easier as well. | ||
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Parcelleus
Australia1662 Posts
On December 09 2011 16:24 Nizzy wrote: Well thanks for the response and the discussion. At this point I think we are simply looking at things differently. From my point of view if I'm correct it doesn't seem like you have any manager experience? Your last statement makes me think that. Saying 'teams only help players get to events, not win them.' In my experiences this can be nothing false as it gets. I've had a manager who, during MLG events, watched the open bracket and would text his 4 teammates at the event. He would see who they were playing before the match, watch 20 reps or get any and all information he could on the vsing player and text his teammate strategy and tips on what to do. By your logic, it doesn't make sense for a Naniwa to be on a complexity or a lower skilled team. You're not factoring in the better practice partners they could have on a better team. There's many factors which the team will help make a player better. Teams definitely help players win events. What do you call when the EG owner went into the player box and talked to IdrA after he went from 3-0, to 3-3 and was mentally broke vs Boxer? He helped IdrA "reset" his mind during a match to re-focus. Ultimately teams are in it for the money and exposure, so are the players. At times the two specific ideologies of the player and a team don't match and it is logical to part ways. Fortunately, their seems to be a good variety of ideologies amongst not only players but also teams, so there is usually a place for everybody. | ||
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Kazuki
Netherlands121 Posts
On December 09 2011 15:01 LanTAs wrote: Problem is, it wasn't Nani's decision o.o Jason Lake wanted to get rid of him for some reason so that he could move TriMaster to korea, or thats my understanding of it. Naniwa obviously must have had somewhat of a say in it, since he's going to another team. And reading his statement, he seems to prefer going to Quantic for reasons that make sense to me at least. | ||
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Malkavian183
Turkey227 Posts
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EZSkull
United States230 Posts
On December 09 2011 16:54 Torte de Lini wrote: That's what I'm saying. I'm saying that knowing the source is true, we know nothing of the source. His view of "most" is circumstantial which we have none. It basically nullifies the quote by making the source anonymous. Not really. Just because the source is listed as anonymous, doesn't automatically nullify anything the source says. Hell, during the WaterGate scandel, Bernstein and Woodward used a source they had in the CIA to get info and always listed him as anonymous, or by his code name... didn't nullify anything he said | ||
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pdd
Australia9933 Posts
On December 09 2011 18:06 Apophenic wrote: he will live in StarTale house in korea? isn't idra there also. Naniwa and idra practicing... that ought to be good. Idra is in the Slayers house. | ||
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